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                        mesh
                    
                    
                        2.0.0 == .956 right?
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        yeah, forgot about the Local Router tab
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        must say, the 2.0 ui is a bit less satisfying
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        I used to be able to tell what other flood fills my flood fill router was connected to, but now this information is missing
                    
                
                
                    
                        R4SAS
                    
                    
                        zzz: kk
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        I do wonder what the "cost per torrent" is on postman is. I guess it's less kilobyte
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        but there is no way to mark a torrent as hidden I guess?
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        this gives me an idea...
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        zzz: btw, is there any example code of signing data using a destination?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        i2cp RequestLeaseSetMessageHandler; streaming PacketLocal; datagrams I2PDatagramMaker
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        basically just _context.dsa().sign(...)
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        zzz: very interesting. So DSAEngine.sign takes an InputStream and a SigningPrivateKey. How do you get a SigningPrivateKey? Destination has a SigningPublicKey?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        if it's your destination, it's in the i2cp session. Of course you don't have the private key for other people's destinations
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I2PSession.getPrivateKey()
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        zzz: Cool. So I2PSession#getPrivateKey can be passed to DSAEngine#sign(InputStream, SigningPrivateKey)? 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yup
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        and then the reverse operation is presumably DSAEngine#verifySignature(Signature, InputStream, SigningPublicKey) with the SigningPublicKey retrieved from the I2PSession#getMyDestination ...?
                     
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        there's a lot of sign() variants for byte[], etc, look around in DSAEngine
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yup, verifySignature() and all the variants
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        And when it comes to serializing a Signature presumably it's just a matter of preserving the 'SigType' and the underlying byte[] returned from getData
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        sure, a Signature is a DataStructure, so there's stream and byte methods there
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        that covers the data only. there is no standard serialization format for adding the sig type, that's on you
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        zzz: how... kosher is it to use postman to upload quasi-private torrents that are of interest to only a few users you think? I'm leaning towards (1) shutting down my ftp servers and (2) having users go a Destination, get a pointer to a torrent, downloading the torrent, and then verifying a Signature on the downloaded data
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        in general you just infer the sig type of the Signature from the sig type of the  key you're signing or verifying with
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I don't set policy for postman, ask him about kosher-ness
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        but if they're private why not run your own tracker or just rely on opentrackers and DHT?
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        hmm yeah. now that I see how it easy it is to create a torrent and upload it to postman I realize running my own ftp servers is pretty dumb. 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ftp in general is dumb
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        zzz: what is opentrackers? I mean the nice thing about postman, in theory, is that users have a nice "experience." Just go to postman, copy the magnet link, post it into i2psnark, and it will work like magic.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        opentracker is just a tracker with no registration rules and no UI
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no web listing
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        you could put your files on a eepsite and add it as a webseed to the torrent
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        not sure if postman would be okay with me uploading torrents called "mesh-distribution-$VERSION.$DATE" every month. 
                     
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        zzz: where might I learn more about webseeds and opentracker? that actually sounds nice. does opentrackers have some sort of http-api for working with it even if there's no web ui?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        google?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        enjoy your new role, zzz. you have become google :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        the zzzot opentracker plugin has a basic webpage for stats and is extensible so you could add info to pimp your torrents
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        alright I'll look into it. I do see people distributing games and linux distros over postman.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        tl;dr just host your .torrent files and/or magnet links on your eepsite, you don't need postman for that
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        zzz: hmm, might that work
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        though postman does track the number of downloads which is kinda nice, as well as alternate seeds. but yeah in theory running a private tracker would be ideal
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        mesh: if you want an opentracker, zzzot (zzz's open tracker) is a java plugin that'll do exactly what you need.  stats.i2p/i2p/plugins
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        install and you're all set, no need to restart your router.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        patch opentracker with a download/hit count, and send a merge request to zzz. 
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        would be great to have an automated system integrated with the build system to build a distribution and then create a torrent
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        check i2p's build.xml .. there's a target to automate torrent creation.
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        yeah I'm looking at the source for zzot right now,  github.com/i2p/i2p.plugins.zzzot.  
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        dr|z3d: there is? holy moly, there's nothing build.xml can't do hehe
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        huh, that's interesting. the mktorrent build.xml target automates torrent generation to postman, which is almost exactly what I would like to do
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        like zzz said, with zzzot you don't need postman. zzzot runs its own jetty instance, so you can just dump torrents in a folder and use the file listing feature to expose them. 
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        zzzot has the ability to automatically detect new files added to a folder and generate torrents?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        no. you'd create torrents, copy them to a folder within zzzot's docroot, and link to that folder on the front page.
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        yeah I'll play around with zzzot. it's a cleaner solution then polluting postman with a bunch of crap I guess
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        all your outstanding questions re zzzot should be answered with the supplied help document.
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        dr|z3d: which is where? I see a README.txt at  github.com/i2p/i2p.plugins.zzzot  but I'm not seeing any other docs
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        install it first.
                    
                
                
                    
                        mesh
                    
                    
                        ah ok
                    
                
                
                    
                        RN
                    
                    
                        zzz: chicken shawarma near me
                    
                
                
                    
                        RN
                    
                    
                        hmmm.. this new google no workie so good.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        obscuratus, re: CyLg, I see a lot of his tunnels, but not enough to blow out the network tunnel graph like the previous one did
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        something's causing occasional spikes still.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        maybe, but that graph is really noisy
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        not quite as prolonged as before, and maybe not as pronounced.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        on a month scale, both quantity and volatility is increasing, but we have a network upgrade in there
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        plus i2pd turning off SSU 1