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not_bob 0 hop does not work with NAT.
not_bob 1 hop resolves firewall traversal while still giving you much of the speed.
onon_ dr|z3d as for streaming configs, try the i2cp options input.
onon_ Can it only apply the parameters described here? i2p-projekt.i2p/ru/docs/protocol/i2cp
onon_ Or is this list of available options longer? And where can you watch it in this case?
dr|z3d here's your first git lesson: cd ~/i2pplus && git grep i2cp *.java | grep snark
dr|z3d as for optional tweaks, anything related to i2cp should be listed there, but maybe there's more, not sure. there's also some snark specific configs, configured in snark.config
dr|z3d git grep PROP_ *.java |grep snark
onon_ git grep PROP_ *.java | grep snark | grep ack
onon_ nothing about AckDelay =(
dr|z3d git grep ack *.java | grep snark
dr|z3d PROP_ is for properties, usually configuration options.
onon_ git grep AckDelay *.java
onon_ options.getSendAckDelay() from now (1000 ms)
onon_ 1000 ms ???
dr|z3d when you get a return on your grep, open the referenced file to review the code block and context.
dr|z3d * If the next send time is currently >= 0 (i.e. not "never"),
dr|z3d * this may make the next time sooner but will not make it later.
dr|z3d * If the next send time is currently < 0 (i.e. "never"),
dr|z3d * this will set it to the time specified, but not later than
dr|z3d * options.getSendAckDelay() from now (1000 ms)
dr|z3d public void setNextSendTime(long when) {
dr|z3d synchronized(_nextSendLock) {
dr|z3d if (_nextSendTime >= 0) {
dr|z3d if (when < _nextSendTime) {_nextSendTime = when;}
dr|z3d } else {_nextSendTime = when;}
dr|z3d if (_nextSendTime >= 0) {
dr|z3d long max = _context.clock().now() + _options.getSendAckDelay();
dr|z3d if (max < _nextSendTime) {_nextSendTime = max;}
onon_ private static final int DEFAULT_INITIAL_ACK_DELAY = 500;
onon_ Too many
onon_ must be 100
onon_ for 3in 3out hops
onon_ Or you're better off requesting the ACK explicitly on the sender's side, in this case.
dr|z3d you've obviously read the RFC that's indicated in the comment above that value.
dr|z3d (not)
dr|z3d A TCP SHOULD implement a delayed ACK, but an ACK should not
dr|z3d be excessively delayed; in particular, the delay MUST be
dr|z3d less than 0.5 seconds, and in a stream of full-sized
dr|z3d segments there SHOULD be an ACK for at least every second
dr|z3d segment.
cumlord we doin lots of pings now looks like
onon_ Set it to 1/10 RTT
dr|z3d sadly the ticket reference will be dead.
dr|z3d well observed, cumlord :)
dr|z3d public static final int DEFAULT_INITIAL_RTT = 8*1000;
dr|z3d private static final int MAX_RTT = 60*1000;
cumlord I like what’s going on with susidns, seems like a lot of wasted tunnels though? Or no big deal?
dr|z3d no big deal, tunnels are short lived.
dr|z3d you also win some cover traffic.
cumlord lol thanks
onon_ Ok AckDelay = 1/10 RTT but if > 100 ms set to 100 ms
onon_ simple
dr|z3d if you clean out the cruft in your addressbook once it's done a full hostchecker run, subsequent runs will be faster.
cumlord but I need all 20k of those dead domains
dr|z3d sure you do.
onon_ The problem is that the more AckDelay you have, the more packets it simultaneously acknowledges to the sender. And accordingly, the more packets it sends at the same time, because space is freed up in the window
dr|z3d if they're not truly dead, they'll return when your subscriptions update.
dr|z3d looking at it.
onon_ And the more packets the sender sends at the same time, if he does not use pacing, the higher the probability of packet loss due to peak traffic.
onon_ Do I really have to explain such simple things to you?
dr|z3d no, you don't. did I ask you to?
dr|z3d but it doesn't hurt to state your thinking, I'm not the only person in the channel. :)
onon_ > dr|z3d: no, you don't. did I ask you to?
onon_ Can I refer to this comment every time I am asked why java-router is not working well?
dr|z3d if you want to get a better idea of what the HostChecker is up to, cumlord, add net.i2p.addressbook=INFO to /configlogging and keep an eye on your logs. set refresh to 5s.
dr|z3d log refresh interval can be set by hovering over the file location on /routerlogs ...
dr|z3d onon_: you seem to be forgetting that a lot of the code you're reviewing isn't mine per se, it's inherited from I2P.
onon_ If you claim to be the developer of an “improved” version of i2p, then you should at least know how it works...
dr|z3d are you going to continue being an antagonistic ass, or can we just keep it impersonal and technical?
onon_ You guys get paid to develop. I don't get anything. And when I try to give you free advice on how to improve the operation of i2p-router, I get back:
onon_ > dr|z3d: no, you don't. did I ask you to?
dr|z3d I get paid to develop? *laughs*
dr|z3d where did you read that?
dr|z3d *** laughs some more. ***
orignal drozd is not paid
dr|z3d you want to know how much I2P has rewarded me since I started contributing 15 years ago? I'll tell you. zero, nada, nothing. not a cent.
orignal ann all money were stolen by Nazi
cumlord cool I’ll add it in :)
orignal afaik drozd has been kicked out from the project
onon_ Who the fuck is Nazi
orignal echelon
dr|z3d this is super old news, orignal *chuckle*
orignal right but it happened
orignal and str4d commited your code later
dr|z3d in as much as I lost my commit privs when mtn was a thing, sure, won't argue with that. that was maybe 14 years ago.
dr|z3d yup, that's also true.
dr|z3d str4d committed a year or more of my work renovating the console UI, and got paid for it.
dr|z3d easiest job ever, review some code, check it in, get paid. *laughs*
onon_ How confusing everything is...
onon_ Now I even less want to participate in this in any way.
onon_ What does zzz say about this?
orignal about what?
dr|z3d this is old news, historical. we've moved on.
orignal ofc Java-I2P has been acquired by stormy ))))
orignal tell us why zzz.i2p is read-only?
StormyCloud Good thing Java-I2P is open source nobody can own it
orignal tor is open source too
dr|z3d zzz is read only because he got tired of zab trolling him on the site, and also presumably because he didn't want the maintenance burden.
orignal zab is not online for a long time
orignal and zzz.i2p is still read only
onon_ zab is zlatnib?
orignal another faggot )))
dr|z3d any more info relating to zzz.i2p you'll have to query him about.
orignal let me tell you somthing
orignal 10 years ago zzz blamed me that I post my text on habr rather than zzz.i2p )))
orignal *texts
dr|z3d what is this? a walk down memory avenue?
dr|z3d *** chuckles. ***
dr|z3d 10 years ago, 12 years ago...
dr|z3d WE'VE MOVED ON!!!
dr|z3d even if your ui hasn't.
onon_ Nothing funny. dr|z3d
onon_ Oh, thats funny =)
onon_ Good joke
StormyCloud speaking of @onon_ I moved web irc over to i2pd and much more stable irc connection. idk will look at this after 2.11
orignal * [orignal] idle 00:05:46, signon: Sat Nov 29 16:02:20
orignal that's how irc stability should look like
orignal it's ilita ofc
orignal and it's not a local connection
orignal * [orignal] is connecting from *@er7pg2v2l67ab3pd4n6ux2b2imqrdofc2evkl55xe55gvkz65c3q.b32.i2p 127.36.126.243
onon_ In this case, it’s not entirely clear to me why, if dr|z3d is in no way connected with the “canon” i2p router, why does it have such problems with making changes to the code
orignal dr|z3d do you happen to know what has happened to that Hamilton alcoholic?
dr|z3d I have no issues whatsoever making code changes.
dr|z3d clue me in, orignal
orignal don't see her for a long time
dr|z3d oh. you mean Sadie?
orignal do you know that Hamilton is a shithole?
dr|z3d maybe the funding dried up? dunno.
dr|z3d I wasn't aware, no.
orignal that's what I thought
dr|z3d don't get me started on Sadie, please.
dr|z3d *** chuckles. ***
orignal no money and such people disappecr
onon_ private static final int MAX_RTT = 30*1000;
onon_ is it 30 seconds?
dr|z3d it is.
dr|z3d down from 60.
dr|z3d still too high, or?
onon_ if you overload tunnel, real RTT can be more than 1 minute
onon_ In this case, if RTT > MAX_RTT do you change the route?
onon_ I don't know the logic behind your router, that's why I'm asking.
dr|z3d private void setRTT(int ms) {
dr|z3d synchronized(this) {
dr|z3d _rtt = ms;
dr|z3d if (_rtt > MAX_RTT) {_rtt = MAX_RTT;}
onon_ What is PROP_INITIAL_RESEND_DELAY
onon_ resend what?
dr|z3d look at the full file, review.
dr|z3d and remember, PROP_ is normally a user-configurable value.
onon_ It's too late to figure this out today. Perhaps tomorrow.
uop23ip onon_, does i2pd have a feature to rekey the http proxy for a new client b32 (even auto rekey after x minutes) while running the router? java-i2p has that feature
dr|z3d we'll meet in the middle, I'm setting MAX_RTT to 45s for now. see how that works.
onon_ uop23ip, no
onon_ http proxy have static key now, changes after reboot or button in webconsole
uop23ip "button in webconsole" there is a button for rekeying? you know where? onon_
onon_ Router commands->Reload tunnels configuration
dr|z3d which presumably terminates all active tunnels?
onon_ If the key is not specified or specified as transient, then it will be updated
uop23ip before that any changes to tunnel.conf and then reload tunnel configuration? or not needed?
uop23ip ok thx
onon_ If nothing has changed in the tunnel configuration, it will not reboot.
orignal not yet
dr|z3d close on inactivity, new key on open.
orignal good idea, no stream or leasests ten rekey
orignal I have a fresh idea
orignal built-in "snark" in i2pd
orignal with direct access to streams
orignal no I2CP, no SAM, no BOB
orignal just another service
dr|z3d why not, orignal?
dr|z3d pull that UI patch of mine and I'll help you design the bittorrent UI. up to you.
dr|z3d you got up to date with + yet, dollarthief?
dollarthief not yet, struggled and failed to set up i2pd in docker
dollarthief can't figure out where to place the config files, there's not being read no matter in which of the documented locationes I put them
dollarthief then again, I should just build my own image, i know...
dr|z3d well, that's not going to help you update +, is it? :)
dollarthief *they're
dr|z3d "Did you try that new beer I recommended?" - "There wasn't enough milk in the coffee".
dollarthief I said "one of these days" lol
dr|z3d are you allergic to help documentation? :)
dollarthief I'll just put i2pd on an old Pi
dr|z3d onon_ apparently is, which is why I ask.
dollarthief I read the docs for i2pd
dollarthief didn't look into i2p+ much yet, since everything is either working as expected or easy to figure out lol
dr|z3d go back to sleep, onon_ :)
dollarthief but the problem I had with is a probably docker issue, or just the image being set up in a way idk how to handle
onon_ Ок
dollarthief *wuth i2pd
dollarthief *with. fml
dr|z3d the thing about docker is that you need to expose directories or files that you want to be able to edit.
dollarthief now even skank says unspported encryption options
dollarthief catch 22 much? :D
dollarthief I'm doing that, even search all files in the image, but there's just no ispd.conf or tunnels.conf at all lol
dollarthief yet i2pd is running fine, the datadir is present ofc
onon_ i2cp is disabled by default
dollarthief so I'm guessing it's just using the default settings. but for some reason it's not reading from any of the locations the docs mention
onon_ Need to be enabled in i2pd.conf
dollarthief what does that have to do with my issue lol
dollarthief Blinded message
dr|z3d nothing, but at least you won't be told to install i2pd. :)
dollarthief I'll install sipd and + anyway xDD
dollarthief *i2pd lol
onon_ Did I mention here that more than 40% of sites in i2p run on i2pd?
dr|z3d sigh2pd.
dr|z3d yeah, you've mentioned that before, onon_, more than once.
dollarthief makes sense, but have a fancy UI and a ton of features if all u wanna do is host a site? lol
onon_ Did I ever mention that 2pd provides data transfer speeds of more than 1MB/s per stream?
dollarthief *why would you want to
dollarthief I need sleep
dollarthief probably
onon_ dr|z3d, Snark+, which I am testing, works very poorly.
dollarthief how about i2pd and qbitorrent?
onon_ i2pd and qbit very good
dollarthief that's probably going to be my seeding setup
dr|z3d well, you've got the code there, let me know when you've identified the issues.
dollarthief oh yeah, thanks for the hint.
dollarthief I guess setting up a cronjob to pull and rebuild would be an ok solution, yet I wanna be lazy and let watchtower trigger the pull of CI built image
onon_ I created the most comfortable conditions for him. I launched i2pd and snark on one computer, and on the other too. I created a unique torrent and am trying to download it from one computer to another.
dr|z3d I tested earler with a well-seeded torrent, got 300KB/s average, I wouldn't call that poor, but I'm open to the possibility we can do better.
onon_ The maximum speed that was achieved is 140 KB/s
onon_ Most of the time the speed fluctuates between 20 and 40.
onon_ Very frequent and prolonged connection interruptions.
onon_ This is despite the fact that the tunnels on both sides are always working. (i2pd constantly tests them).
onon_ Obviously, the problem is not a poor connection or interruptions within the network.
onon_ The problem is either in snark itself or in the i2cp protocol.
dr|z3d I've seen 2MB/s spikes over Snark.
dr|z3d try downloading something with a good number of seeds, and/or setting your hops to 1 on both torrent clients. also, NAT, dunno if that's interfering, might be.
onon_ Yes, when downloading a popular torrent, from many peers the speed was about 600KB/s and from one peer the maximum was 280 KB/s
uop23ip onon_, is this error an issue by i2pd side or by i2psnark+ standalone: @816/error - Garlic: Can't handle ECIES-X25519-AEAD-Ratchet message
dr|z3d onon_: here's a chunky file to test, save it to /dev/null or wherever suits, let's see how you get on with it -> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:31a8482e731f1769c74e2ed245a6c129c9fa7cf2&tr=http://opentracker.skank.i2p/a&dn=animatrix_v20.safetensors
dr|z3d if you're not onon_, don't bother downloading that file, you can acquire it much quicker on huggingface.
onon_ uop23ip, no This is an encryption problem. Due to the fact that the i2cp application does not switch the route.
onon_ It keeps sending packets into a broken or non-existent tunnel, and the tags on the sending side are too far ahead.
onon_ As a result, even if the connection is restored and packets begin to arrive to the recipient, he cannot decrypt them and receives the following error.
dr|z3d still waiting to see you connect to that torrent, onon_
dr|z3d in the name of science...
onon_ I launched it, but for some reason it doesn't start
onon_ Looks like it's started.
onon_ dr|z3d, how's the science? Progressing?
dr|z3d looks like it, onon_