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Sh0ck Net splits often on i2p?

Sh0ck i2p irc*

waffles hiii im new to i2p

dr|z3d welcome, waffles

waffles hey!

Sh0ck :D

waffles how u fine people doing today

dr|z3d not bad over here, waffles, what brings you to i2p?

waffles people were talking about it on xmpp

waffles id heard about it but didnt know how to set it up so some people helped me, they said start with i2p+

dr|z3d great, happy to hear the word about i2p is getting out there.

waffles yeah im interested to see how much stuff is on here

dr|z3d if you're running +, one of the first things you want to do is enabled unsigned updates on the /configupdate page.

dr|z3d *enable

waffles alright sounds good

dr|z3d enable the option, save.. optionally replace the default url with the supplied /dev/ path if you want bleeding edge updates.

waffles ill stick with stable for now!

dr|z3d *address

waffles oh nice

dr|z3d you may also want to visit /help/ in the console to get yourself up to speed on various aspects of the network / router.

waffles so how do i connect to a .i2p address

waffles i try to open it in my browser and it just says server not found

dr|z3d > /help/configuration

dr|z3d there's a section there about configuring firefox, with a link for other browsers.

waffles i see a guide on it yeah

dr|z3d tldr: http proxy, port 4444.

waffles alright i set it up in firefox, seems to work

dr|z3d great. notbob.i2p will give you a handy index of available sites, and of course you have a ton of links on /home

orignal Sh0ck netsplit is rare at Ilita

orignal and we all know why

dr|z3d if you use firefox as your daily driver, you might want to use a separate browser for i2p. in which case, I recommend librewolf.

waffles ok

dr|z3d librewolf.net

orignal because someone doesn't want to implement "switch tunnels" flag in I2CP

Sh0ck waffles pretty good, lots of meetings cannot wait to work on my VPN i2p gateway project'

waffles oh right on

dr|z3d I think someone is probably waiting for a proposal, orignal :)

orignal come on. "write a proposal" means "go fuck youself"

dr|z3d *** laughs. ***

dr|z3d no it doesn't, it means "please write a proposal with suggestions for implementation, use case, and an assessment of benefits".

Sh0ck dr|z3d Librewolf looks sick i might switch

Sh0ck Only reason i havent right now is because i need that project, ssh tunnels are not super stable for i2p proxy at least for me, and the protonvpn brower plugin allows me to use my lan vpn for now untill i setup the forwarding

orignal I have another question

orignal is there a way to maintain connection through SAM>?

dr|z3d librewolf's pretty good, all the advantages of firefox without the crud.

Sh0ck Sounds like a no brainer

Sh0ck I hate all theforced ai crap

Sh0ck Good thing so far i have not seen much of it outside of the plebnet

orignal see what I mean? say I need to have LeaseSet, ratchets session always ready

orignal plebnet fir plebs? ))

Sh0ck Yee

Sh0ck :)

orignal seriously

Sh0ck Its what i call the clearnet haha

orignal if you want a stable IRC use i2pd

waffles hrm

dr|z3d if you don't want a UI that looks like it was drawn with crayons by a 5 year old, don't use i2pd.

waffles so i got it working on zen browser librewolf isnt liking i2p

waffles i can connect to the router page but im getting server not found on i2p addresses

Sh0ck Sounds more like an issue with foxyproxy

orignal just look at Ilita

orignal how stable it is

Sh0ck How long has your router been running waffles ?

waffles uhhh probably an hour

Sh0ck Yeah can take a day to get up to full speed some times more

dr|z3d check proxy settings.

waffles yeah i was able to connect to i2p addresses on zen browser though

Sh0ck For me it was quite fast but i have a very good connection

Sh0ck waffles What do you use for proxy in ur browser?

dr|z3d server not found normally indicates you're not pushing traffic through the proxy.

waffles just the network settings one

Sh0ck use foxyproxy

Sh0ck Or something like that

Sh0ck It allows you to define regex paterns

Sh0ck So it only does .i2p

Sh0ck or more if you want to

Sh0ck Works great on many browsers my friends use too

dr|z3d be careful with foxyproxy, it can easily lead to deanonymization if you don't configure it correctly.

Sh0ck Exactly

Sh0ck Always review your settings

Sh0ck And test!

Sh0ck dr|z3d That was such pain to fix on that frontend

Sh0ck But for the last day we have had no leaks on the dev i2p frontend

waffles help.getfoxyproxy.org/index.php/knowledge-base/how-to-use-foxyproxy-with-i2p

Sh0ck So its looking good :D

dr|z3d you never want to only handle .i2p traffic via the i2p proxy and no proxy for clearnet. recipe for disaster. at the very least, you want a default proxy that handles non .i2p traffic, like Tor.

Sh0ck Another reason why that is so important is any site can return a clear site response that your browser will run

Sh0ck Even if you use i2p a bad hidden host will expose you

dr|z3d otherwise someone can give you an i2p link with clearnet resources, and watch their logs when you access the site to attempt to decloak you...

Sh0ck Hmm

Sh0ck On that topic

Sh0ck What is a good browser for this on android

Sh0ck because there is no librewolf on android unfortunatly

Sh0ck They do have an official ebuild so thats really sweet!

dr|z3d take your pick, whatever works for you. brave, duckduckgo, firefox.. no specfic recommendation.

Sh0ck duckduck and brave would be the safest to pic then

waffles ah yeah im getting 403 bad protocol

Sh0ck Oh

Sh0ck

Sh0ck Add that to the beginning

Sh0ck Always ensure you are reaching your i2p http proxy via http

Sh0ck Because your browse will try to be cheeky

dr|z3d even simpler, just suffix / to the end of the hostname. and turn off https everywhere in the browser if it's enabled.

dr|z3d e.g. foo.i2p/

Sh0ck Nice, i did not know that trick haha

Sh0ck Saves a couple of characters :)

waffles ah yknow what it was

waffles had https everywhere enabled in librewolf

waffles couldnt figure out foxyproxy though

Sh0ck Its quite simple

Sh0ck Just open the extension go to options

Sh0ck In there add a HTTP Proxy tha points to 127.0.0.1 4444

Sh0ck Then in your browser click on the foxy proxy icon(important) and turn on your proxy or proxy by patterns if you use regex or wildcards

Sh0ck You probably missed the icon click step

Sh0ck My friends often forget to do that when they set it up

waffles oh yes u r right

waffles imagine that!

Sh0ck You will probably encounter some more things like that but dont let it discourage you

Sh0ck The freedom you get here is worth it

Sh0ck and with the many services and even frontends(wikiless/duckduckgo/manymore)

Sh0ck You can browse most of the normal web through i2p

Sh0ck But yeah, be mindfull of what you visit

Sh0ck And stay safe :]

waffles thanks!

Sh0ck Be sure to check out the torrent trackers on here

Sh0ck They have some great content

Sh0ck And torrenting helps

Sh0ck c:

waffles oh yeah i need to try that

waffles where can i find trackers

Sh0ck tracker2.postman.i2p/

Sh0ck simp.i2p

Sh0ck Check #torrents too

Sh0ck Great chan, nice people

wew so i'm trying to do some simple datagram sending between two golang+sam3 programs. basically server waits for datagram and client sends it. what am i doing wrong? privatebin.i2p/?23c85aefffc75175#Gp6S6DFGBRPzBPMVK397kRBSjKVPn18UrpSSxAFSkW4d

Sh0ck You an use the builtin client for torrenting

Sh0ck i2psnark

Sh0ck You could also use the transmission-rpc plugin check wiki.i2p-projekt.i2p/wiki/index.php/Plugins

Sh0ck And if you are feeling really cheeky you could hook up tixati or some other client over 2ICP(?)

Sh0ck i2cp*

waffles this website was not reachable because it uses encryption options that are not supported by your i2p or java version...

dr|z3d try another site. some may have unsupported crypto.

dr|z3d you may want to pull a dev build, alternatively, I don't recall if the installer has post quantum crypto enabled.

dr|z3d which website, waffles?

waffles this i2p wiki projekt

waffles wiki.i2p-projekt.i2p/wiki/index.php/Plugins

dr|z3d ok, that's broken.

dr|z3d it's probably using a non-standard variant of the PQ crypto. 768 is standard.

dr|z3d eyedeekay: do you have access to the i2p wiki. otherwise someone needs to communicate with echelon.

dr|z3d hmm, strange, it *should* work, leaseset appears ok: 127.0.0.1:7657/netdb?ls=wiki.i2p-projekt.i2p

dr|z3d maybe it's multi-homed, works sometimes.

zzz ElG-only

zzz you don't have to guess, it's in the LS

dr|z3d it's multi-homed, sometimes it works, sometimes it fails.

dr|z3d the LS I viewed locally had El-G + ECIES.

zzz yup, I see that too

dr|z3d you're still waiting for a proposal for a switch tunnel feature in i2cp, zzz? I think that's what orignal was talking about earlier?

zzz thats the way to make protocol changes, we have 4 router impls + client-side libs and tixati

zzz speaking of

zzz orignal, I owe you a response on your proposal to put the PQ SSU2 router hash mixhash near the PQ mixkey

zzz I propose to put it at the beginning, just after mixhash(bob static key)

zzz so bob can precalculate it if he wants

zzz so it would go:

zzz mixhhash(bob static key)

zzz mixhash(bob router hash) FOR PQ ONLY

zzz mixhash(header)

dr|z3d re wiki, brings me back to the idea we should be supported 0,4,{pq} while we transition off El-G, and on the client side, we shouldn't have to specify 512/768/1024, should be able to determine the key strength automatically.

dr|z3d *supporting

eyedeekay I don't, but I'll ping him and add it to my ongoing conversation

dr|z3d 10-4, eyedeekay

zzz generic mix-n-match was too hard back when we started with 4,0 and still not worth the effort

dr|z3d ok

zzz we need to get rid of the fallback to ElG which is extremely expensive

dr|z3d time to start telling everyone ElG is dead, then.

zzz no, we just auto-migrate from 4,0 to 6,4, if you haven't coded that in already

dr|z3d correction: time to tell echelon ElG is dead. :)

dr|z3d 6,4 is default in + for new tunnels now where applicable.

waffles alrigvht i think im back

waffles hopefuilly if i dc again itll work

Sh0ck Its finally done

Sh0ck Weekend \o/

waffles /o/ \o\

Sh0ck had to use some old terraform code of my other vpn

Sh0ck Because all these shitty repos like easy-wg dont do what i needed it to do

Sh0ck But i have tested it and i can access everything on my lan and i2p and as soon as it leaves my LAN it goes over proton

Sh0ck Finally i can feel slightly comfortable in my net haha

Sh0ck the part i am most excited about is the near native experience with i2p on my net

Sh0ck Would love to take it one step further where people dont even need a proxy anymore

orignal zzz, that's fine

orignal to 6,4 or 6,4,0?

orignal zzz, any plan to implement ping command for SAM?

Sh0ck I just discovered fizzbuzz.i2p

Sh0ck Amazing stuff

zzz no plans for SAM ping, feel free to write a proposal

orignal then how an app is supposed to maintain session with remote address through SAM?

zzz 1) who cares, start a new session; 2) there's some streaming option to tell it to send a 0-length data packet on inactivity

orignal 1. LeaseSet lookup

orignal it slows down

orignal 2. is interesting thing

orignal will check

zzz it's send an empty data packet, or a ping, or something, can't remmeber

orignal that's what I need

orignal this options

orignal *option

zzz i2p.streaming.inactivityAction2 (send) (0=noop, 1=disconnect) What to do on an inactivity timeout - do nothing, disconnect, or send a duplicate ack.

zzz 2 is default, we have code for it, so in theory we do it

Sh0ck hey guys if i add a torrent in i2psnark a big one say 60GB, can i close the browser after pressing create torrent because the checksum creation takes long

Sh0ck And i wonder if i need to stay up for it

orignal it's for individaul stream

zzz right you can set it per-stream

orignal but I need just with whole dest

orignal LS and session

orignal ping-pong is ideal thing

orignal ping and pong back

zzz although I'm not sure streaming options per-stream from SAM would make it through, spec doesn't say you can do that

zzz should work Sh0ck

orignal so what do you think about NACK #9 in SYN?

orignal we want to send max windows size there

dr|z3d Sh0ck: shouldn't need to keep the page open, torrent validation will happen in the background.

zzz I don't know, I'm checking for nacks == 8 now. why not put it in the LS? write a proposal?

zzz or define a new option?

Sh0ck Where do i get the sam keys

Sh0ck Icannot find them anywhere

Sh0ck I have turned the sam bridge on

zzz sam bridge does not have a destination by iteslf. the individual sam sessions do

orignal yes LS is another option

orignal I mostlly ignore these nacks if comes from ratchets

zzz but you can get a CHOKE at any window size or any traffic level, knowing the max doesn't help you that much

orignal it's different story

zzz especially if you have a well-behaved window growth strategy (yours is not)

orignal the point is that if we know window size of other side we can start pumping more

orignal better to ask onon

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