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dr|z3d zzz: I think the estimated total floodfills on the LS debug page might be slightly off? not entirely sure about the estimayed total leasesets, either.
dr|z3d Estimated total floodfills: 1140939 (?!)
f00b4r Rationale for bep_0051 is that DHT indexing is possible, but requires either a lot of unique IP addresses, or polluting routing tables of other nodes. Polluting tables is impossible, because I2P DHT has "Secure Node ID Requirement", but since I2P addresses are basically just cryptographic keys, anyone can create a lot of unique addresses. Moreover, to be capable to create more
f00b4r identities on a singe machine, one can (and is incentivized to) disable transit traffic and reduce number of hops, which is bad for the network. Two possible solutions I see are either to make DHT indexing extremely difficult or remarkably simple.
f00b4r Reasons I prefer the last approach are:
f00b4r 1. DHT searches would reduce reliance on trackers for locating content
f00b4r 2. They would also lead to a build-up of larger swarms, increasing availability and download speed
f00b4r 3. Private filesharing in I2P is already possible and simple enough
f00b4r cc: zzz, dr|z3d
dr|z3d I think we had a discussion about DHT searches a while ago, don't remember the exact details, but it's not a bad idea in principle, if you exclude all the potentially nasty content out there.
f00b4r I think, it's not possible to filter content in decentralized manner on KRPC level. IMO, that should be solved by a search engine moderator
dr|z3d I was thinking more inline search in I2PSnark.
f00b4r In theory we can include hashes of nasty infohashes and/or regexps for filtering in snark
dr|z3d yeah, sure, and just as easily someone can compile snark without them, which is fundamentally the issue. discovery. some stuff doesn't want to be discovered.
f00b4r I'm not sure if I understand the issue correctly. Isn't the whole point of i2p censorship resistance?
f00b4r I mean, even now one can create a tracker with nasty content and other one can load it using snark
dr|z3d it's a bit more nuanced than censorship resistance.
dr|z3d but let's be clear. Tor has a reputation for hosting the kind of content we'd rather not have here. sure, it's about, but we'd rather not make it easier to find than it already is.
dr|z3d it's a similar discussion to the one we're having about destination blacklists. maybe the two have some crossover.
f00b4r Where can I find those discussions?
dr|z3d they're sporadic, they happen here, mostly, though there may be archives on major.i2p
f00b4r Okay, thank you
dr|z3d don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a btdigg type service exclusively for i2p content.
dr|z3d it's just something that has to be "navigated" with care and some sort of oversight.
f00b4r I guess, if we won't intentionally complicate participation in DHT, such services are still possible
zzz re BEP 51, I'm Swiss, clients can implement or not, perhaps bigly already does or in a plugin, there's no protocol issues or i2p-specific changes req'd
dr|z3d Latest + dev build has improved leaseset presentation and auto-refresh of the presented information every 15s, if you're running dev builds.
dr|z3d Make sure you have js enabled in your console.
dr|z3d "Interesting" LS: 2HIpbxtNRIzU~0HqhqgSMMmvg58StkYp3uA3T04un2k=
dr|z3d In java, we can only host a single lease for 0 hop, are you doing something different in i2pd, orignal?
zzz lol
Leopold not_bob_afk: Is your resource notbob.i2p down?
RN notbob.i2p is up
RN did you try at least three times Leopold?
Leopold reg.i2p says that notbob.i2p was last seen (UTC) on 2025-07-23 15:06:14
not_bob_afk Odd, it should be up.
Stormycloud ohhhhhhhhhhhhh its broken
Stormycloud Im tellin on you
not_bob I see people hitting it in the logs.
not_bob I did restart the service on teh main router. ABout to restart the others.
not_bob This may be a larger issue.
not_bob But, not a me specific one.
not_bob But, yep. Watching the logs. A shit ton of requests for hosts.txt, as is usual.
not_bob *** shakes his head ***
not_bob I will let it rest for a bit and look at it in an hour.
not_bob_afk Thank you for letting me know.
zzz got my new peepers, expect 500 checkins soon ))))