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dr|z3d
T3s|4_: he's looking to develop a systray download manager.
dr|z3d
(for i2p)
RN
does it use eepget, or something else?
RN
eepgit + snark?
RN
pictures look pretty, but how much of that is actually doable without a mountain of code that need a maintainer?
dr|z3d
it doesn't use anything right now afaik. it's a concept.
dr|z3d
one assumes that dec will handle maintenance, but who knows? maybe he's hoping someone else realizes his dream :)
postman
yes maintenance is a ... dream
postman
a holy assignment
postman
sure
dr|z3d
postmaintenance!
postman
it's draining dreary and dreadful
dr|z3d
speaking of maintenance, we now have more optimizations in leaseset display in the latest dev build.
dr|z3d
where suitable, labels have been iconized, content has been otherwise trimmed or streamlined.
dr|z3d
leaseset display still WIP, but the main page will now just show you your own leasesets.
dec
hi devs, i'm interested in completing a workable design at this stage. the implementation will likely be easy for someone who knows how to make taskbar widgets in linux
dec
heres the svg
dec
each layer is a button click basically
dec
theres an api?
dec
what is eepget
dec
?
dec
these are the 2 qs that i have right now.
dec
i've coded the lucky dip part, gets a random eepsite and dls its index page and stores it on computer for future interest. often someone will mention an eepsite and i can just pull it up from a past fetch and see what they are talking about.
dec
so powerful
dr|z3d
I don't think you're going to find anyone to code your system tray icon for you, dec.
dec
so yeah the bones are almosst all there, its just turning the bash output into widget output, and a nice statemachine to govern the thing, and knowing whats possible with linux taskbar widgets
dr|z3d
sorry to dampen your expectations, but if you want a widget, you'll be the one coding it :)
dec
its a design for future, i do expect to learn widget stuff one day, but it might be a projectthat someone wants to do, so i'm just throwing the idea out there :)
dec
i'll put it up on a forum soon
dec
the shasum of the current svg is f26a7f98cf6dab902bd95c737cd0f5d90586195be4fe3859e413e422c222572b btw
dec
shasum -a256
dec
what i would ask is what do folks use currency to manage downloads? and if this will save you even 5 seconds per download that will add up to generations of saved time. also if it helps to draw people into i2p and to use i2p secureely and helps them mirror content that they like easier then the net effect is going to be very good for freedom.
dec
10,000people x 15 dls/day * 5
dec
208 human hrs per day. Conservative estimate on time saving. That's NOT including the added people who will use i2p as a result. Not including the benefits of people sharing more of the things they need.
dec
NOT including the speed savings of being able to just queue things to download when doing other stuff, not including the added benefits of people leaving i2p running at all hours to download things at random scheduled times, not including the privacy benefits of ppl using more than one tunnel for i2p
dec
what would the current i2p users do with 208 more hours of time on their side?
dec
per day
T3s|4_
dr|z3d: ^noted - dec__, thanks, now I understand :)
zzz
re: 2 more hpppers, confirmed and added, thanks
dr|z3d
np
zzz
dr|z3d, where's your canonical clearnet source repo now? gitlab abandoned?
dr|z3d
gitlab is shit.
zzz
ok
dr|z3d
they spam but they won't send a confirmation mail to the same address.
zzz
if you announced that I missed it
dr|z3d
and after I recently tried to force push to master, they blocked me from pushing _to my own repo_.
dr|z3d
they're web support for resolution is also useless.
dr|z3d
*their
dr|z3d
I've contracted eyedeekay's random apostrophe bug :|
zzz
combine that with the receive bug
dr|z3d
:)
dr|z3d
that one hasn't hit me yet
dr|z3d
those hoppers have been fairly easy to spot. LU, requesting more tunnels than most.
StormyCloud
You madlads did 13m outproxy requests last month
dr|z3d
\o/
dr|z3d
"yes, the above numbers and periods are completely arbitrary. suggestions welcome"
dr|z3d
*** chuckles. ***
dr|z3d
that's one of your comments, zzz, isn't it? :)
dec__
i don't understand, why use github, it helps microsoft steal foss code and sell it with codepilot
dec__
notabug might be good, or why not talk to a largish gnu or bsd repo and ask to have it there?
dec__
everytime someone in our community chooses github, i feel like bill gates gets the confidence to stab another million children
dec__
our community = foss
dr|z3d
it wasn't microsoft when I signed up. but I don't much care about the politics, it hosts code, it runs CI and other tests, and it's free.
dec__
or buy another farm etc, it give the oppressor credibility
dr|z3d
you don't have to visit github to view the code, it's also on git.skank.i2p
dec__
taking over farmland from small holders affects us all, his corrupting influence over medical research and institution affects us all, it comes across as very privileged to say i don't care about politics
dec__
his endorsement or toxic poisons in the food production chin and the patenting of seeds affects everyone
eyedeekay
If you're going to be running up somebody else's bills with CI time, why not M$?
dr|z3d
I don't care _about the politics of github_.
dr|z3d
whatever you happen to think about bill gates, he doesn't run microsoft anymore, and he certainly doesn't run github.
dec__
when times change its important to adapt, eyedeekay, they are stealing foss code
snex
> steal foss code
snex
> wat?
dec__
its microsoft its they are an abusive company, they embezzle money and bribe people in power to pollute our environment with bad tech
snex
also... giving gates zero dollars but making him host my stuff somehow helps him? wat?
snex
using somebody else's resources and not paying them helps me at their expense
dec__
hi snex are you aware of how credibility works? its the currency of the worst actors. Also i find it hard to believe you are not aware how GPLv3 license work to propate software freedom
dec__
microsoft steal foss code and pass it off as theirs, under the guise of "AI"
dec__
thus they are killing the foss movement.
dec__
github don't allow anonymous accounts, also.
dec__
so by using github it exposes both you and others who are drawn to it as a result of just being there
snex
it is impossible to "steal" information
eyedeekay
He's talking about licensing
eyedeekay
In the case of GPL'ed and copyleft code in general that's very probably true, in the case of permissively licensed code, that's probably not true
eyedeekay
in any case, having the code located at a different git instance doesn't prevent Microsoft from abusing it, it just means they don't *also* have to host it
eyedeekay
It's perfectly simple to sync i2p.i2p from my gitlab instance where we actually work on it with github or any other git host, and most git hosts I know of have at least one copy
snex
im aware what hes talking about. its irrelevant. intellectual property is incoherent nonsense
dec__
will dr|z3d and snexput in there README the sorts of things there are writing here (ie. I'm just using github cos its free and want to use their resources and I recommend other server?, if most people rejected the abuse it would stop.
dec__
snex, big corporations have employees that will blow the whistle if their employer asked them to steal foss code
dec__
microsoft creates a system that makes theft easy, and UNNOTIABLE.
dec__
UNNOTICEABLE
dec__
if bill gates was ulbrict (ie. any other person) he'd be in prison today.
dec__
the only reason he's not there is he has legitimacy
dec__
and credibililty, and is a good marketeer of poisons
snex
again... there is literally no such thing as "stealing" code
snex
stop abusing language
dr|z3d
*** laughs. ***
dr|z3d
if bills gates was ross ulbricht, he'd be ross ulbricht and not bill gates.
dec__
yes there is, microsoft is doing it and your microsoft apologesia is telling
dr|z3d
if bill gates happened to be the convicted admin for the silk road dark market, yes, he'd be in prison today. and tomorrow. and the day after that.
dec__
bill gates has done worse than ulbricht, ulbricht just didn't have the right corporate structure, foundation, backing
dec__
i would put gates below toe jam, on the utility scale
dr|z3d
from a legal standpoint, not really. maybe if you consider windows as being a blight on humanity, then you could argue that. you'd be treading in batshit, but hey.
dec__
i enumerated above
dec__
leaving
eyedeekay
How bout this weather?
dr|z3d
on the plus side, at least he wasn't advocating for trump.
eyedeekay
small miracles
dr|z3d
:)
snex
bro you cannot steal information
snex
stop talking like a dumbass communist
snex
the word "steal" has a definition
snex
whatever you think bill gates is doing to code does not meet it
snex
stop making yourself look foolish
eyedeekay
unnoticable theft in this case is just copying, copying is not theft
eyedeekay
there are arguments to be made around the rule of law and how people function by making agreements with eachother but hyperbole serves no one
eyedeekay
Also pinning all on Bill Gates is unhinged at this point
dr|z3d
he's gone, guys.
snex
good. purge all communism from i2p
uop23ip
what is the verb for: selling i2p release bins to unknown stupid for 20bucks(we all know it is worth way more)? other than profit? it is not stealing i guess. And ofc support will be directed to this irc. lol
snex
why do you need a verb for that
uop23ip
you know none?
uop23ip
maybe it is exploitation, don't know. no lawyer, but for not nice, especially if there is no monetary feedback to the devs. That happened a lot to the bsd guys, iirc.
snex
if you werent providing a service, they wouldnt be paying you
uop23ip
i think they were even that shameless with openbsd and used their support :)