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dr|z3d
A response: cake.i2p/file/PYbAXkVD2Z_dgC9XjvxGB1VOJCEKKKTlWn6k4Puw4_7uzaJ6OHaL/TrumpIsADick.webp
dr|z3d
If anyone has a twitter account and wants to post that and tag trump, be my guest. no attribution necessary.
snex
trump doesnt use twitter
dr|z3d
yeah he does. he does since elon interviewed him. expect him to use it more.
snex
funny how the guardian has no articles about kamala posting AI generated crowds to make her rallies look full
dr|z3d
funny that.
Irc2PGuest77359
ai has great potential to make the internet useless again, at least for people who dont know how to use it, 90% of ppl
dr|z3d
except it does, as a rebuttal.
snex
if the article is a "debunking" then thats not what im talking about. im talking about the ones kamala posted to her own insta
dr|z3d
guardian tends to stick to the facts, not Trump fantasies presented as alternative facts.
Irc2PGuest77359
<dr|z3d> "guardian tends to stick to the facts" <<<<< oh god (see also: julian assange)
snex
i suspect these msm retards make their own fake AI images, pass them along to trump fans who then tweet them out, only to then say "AHA SEE THESE ARE FAKE!"
dr|z3d
behave, throstle.
Irc2PGuest77359
o i am
snex
anybody who supports democrats is not sticking to facts
snex
the guardian fired glen greenwald for sticking to facts
Irc2PGuest77359
snex> the guardian fired glen greenwald for sticking to facts <<<<< he left theintercept also, shame he's not started an i2p page
snex
im trying to get sane people to come to i2p with my podcast
snex
so far every single "news" site is flaming comies
snex
commies*
Irc2PGuest77359
corpo commies.... i call them crommies
snex
thats all commies tho
Irc2PGuest77359
or cronnies
snex
they will swear up and down that theyre for worker owned blahblah but every single time we see what they do
Irc2PGuest77359
its closer to fascist than communist
Irc2PGuest77359
just say fascist
Irc2PGuest77359
when i think of communist i think of people coming together as a community to do things that benefit the common person, thats the opposite of what happens with these cronnies
snex
thats what communists want you to think
snex
thats why you give them power
Irc2PGuest77359
no i dont
snex
read marx. he tells you that communism is violence
Irc2PGuest77359
cronnism and fascism is violence
snex
communism is violence
Irc2PGuest77359
cronyism and fascism is violence that the person being attacked doesn't even know why, that's wat we have
Irc2PGuest77359
why or how
Irc2PGuest77359
cronyists is more precise
Irc2PGuest77359
fascist if you want to boil it down
Irc2PGuest77359
all things said, i dont have time for the uniparty, a third party or candidate is needed
snex
Move to Las Vegas and vote for me for congress
Irc2PGuest77359
mayb im already there :P
Irc2PGuest77359
<snex> im trying to get sane people to come to i2p with my podcast <<<< keep up the great work!!!
snex
Don’t
snex
Doubt*
RN
bleeb
RN
the fq I just type? I thought auto-incrorrect was only on my mobile
RN
*** steals an early mail in ballot and writes in the candidate name "Snex" ***
snex
You have to use my real name… also what is that ban lol
Irc2PGuest77359
do folks here know that there is a discrepancy between what firefox does when you "copy" an image to base64 format and what a command like base64 offers?
dr|z3d
there are 2 base64 image variants.
Irc2PGuest77359
ok well that interesting they give different variants
dr|z3d
2 slightly different encodings, to be more specific.
snex
I will make a 3rd one
Irc2PGuest77359
yes, i just thought it was interesting that between those 2 they have chosen differently, snex will nedd to check that out when it connects
Irc2PGuest77359
the type of b64 ff-ish browsers spit out looks to be 20% larger
Irc2PGuest77359
or thereabouts
Irc2PGuest77359
seems to fluctuate a bit in terms of how much bigger it is which is odd
Irc2PGuest77359
importantly both work in ff-ish browsers, in windows systems which variant is the default?
dr|z3d
nfi
Irc2PGuest77359
ie. if someone uses the powershell in windows i wonder if they get the ff-ish version, i'd hope not because then the shorter version becomes a linux trait/fingerprint
Irc2PGuest77359
whats nfi
dr|z3d
no f'ing idea.
Irc2PGuest77359
np, i'll research and report back
Irc2PGuest77359
otherwise if i2p has in its arsenal the same encoder that linux uses then it MIGHT be nice to have a form that spits out the base64, if its more than 300kb it might spit it out to a file rather than display in the browser..
Irc2PGuest77359
i cant research now mus go, if anyone is interested and learns which format the m$ shell uses, drop the result here
RN
ok, dr|z3d is not here... party time!!!
RN
anyone know where he keeps the key to the liquor cabinet?
RN
snex, are you holding?
snex
holding what
RN
when someone asks if "you are holding" that means "you got any weed?"
RN
running for office and you don't even know that?
RN
how are you going to manage your bribes if you don't even speak the people's language?
snex
i dont use drugs
snex
i will end corruption
RN
*** winks ***
RN
yeah, I see you have interesting crowds as your political rallies
dr|z3d
now that one I like, RN. good work.
RN
Σ:Đ
snex
you should make a campaign site for me
snex
i cant provide any input or it will count as a political in-kind donation
cumlord
lmao, the background is also on point
snex
register a PAC
RN
thanks cumlord, I tried to take a good photo with my mobile, I did crop it a little
T3s|4
dr|z3d: ^agreed - wonderful to see our latest artiste AI contributor, RN, pay a rainbow visit to LostWages/SinCity :D
RN
thanks T3ss :)
RN
it was hot
T3s|4
:D
T3s|4
and yep, August (days and nights) in both LV and Phoenix can be excruciating :)
RN
isn't that a song? ♫ ♪ hot august night ♪ ♫
T3s|4
iirc, when 122 F was achieved, all flights were grounded (and diverted) at PHX, because Boeing had never tested take offs or landings at or above 122 F - and just as surely, no company is going to pay to build a new a runway in Death Valley, CA, (even hotter) capable of accommodating the world's largest aircraft :)
T3s|4
build a new *runway
RN
Death Valley does not sound like I place I would like. My blood prefers colder to hotter.
T3s|4
lols - hence the name ;p
RN
yarr
T3s|4
RN - had no clue this even existed: looks huge and great duckduckgo.com/?q=hot+august+nights&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dpa3iGhuac9Q
RN
oh, neat
RN
I'm lately dissapoint with ddg. goog results are notably more relevant for many searches. damn google@!!#@$%
snex
use brave
RN
yeah, I sometimes use brave, but that doesn't change the search results
RN
ddg still gives wildly wrong results in the to 5 or so compared to goog for many searches I've done lately
T3s|4
RN: I run DDG 90+% of the time, and only use GOOG when I'm out of other ideas. If you're seeing noticeably better GOOG results, I assume that is because GOOG's far more massive AI search result investments, solely due to GOOG's ONLY customers (i.e. their advertisers) remain currently willing to pay for those higher AI costs, in return for better, more targeted, end-consumer, likely
T3s|4
buyer, search results! I detest sharing my data with and being GOOG's end product! :D
T3s|4
and indeed, an uncompensated GOOG, end product...
T3s|4
RN: I typically run (torified) FF and TBB, but if your OS supports it, ungoogled-chromium seems to work well on my end
T3s|4
through Privoxy, ofc
RN
yeah, I use Tor for goog
RN
when I don't end up in catchpa hell
T3s|4
right!
RN
in that proxied browser ddg is the default search
T3s|4
ofc
RN
if you had a google speaker, would you trust the microphone cut of switch?
T3s|4
GOOG detests Tor users because it make YOU and YOUR DATA far less valuable to their advertisers / ONLY customers :)
T3s|4
because *Tor makes YOU...
RN
:)
T3s|4
RN: wire cutters are often useful :)
RN
hehe
RN
wirecutters are usefull for a few cuts, according to a youtube I recently watched
RN
they don't harden the metal enough, and the cut the blades at the wrong angle
RN
even expensive ones
RN
I must have bought my tools before companies got so cheap on their products
T3s|4
RN: precisely why I support off-shoring of all the few remaining US manufacturing plants to China, permanently ;p
RN
a lot of the wire cutters are already made in China
RN
especially the more inferior ones
T3s|4
my point, exactly
RN
I'd pay extra post fees if craftsman was still high quality
RN
my 30 year old Klein cutters will outperform and outlast what you can get at harbert freight today
RN
did I spell that right?
RN
they woudld even outlast and outperform the same model bought from Klein today
T3s|4
so would many, if such choices were even available, but in many specific tool (and other product) markets, their are zero non-Chinese alternatives available
RN
'made in usa' doesn't mean what it used to... they are all skimping on quality control
snex
im sure it has nothing to do with labor regulations making it impossible to run a profitable business
orignal
why tracker2.postman.i2p throws "Too many requests"?
T3s|4
RN: this way: harborfreight.com
snex
because you made too many requests
T3s|4
been buying there for decades; something like 80+% built in China, and that was years ago ;p
RN
ahh.. I got it totally wrong. lol. been a while since I visted my USA friend and went there
orignal
yes, too many requests
orignal
but dr|z3d said it could be changed
RN
orignal, tracker2 uses standard java-i2p rate limits
orignal
how about multihoming?
orignal
let me formulate the question differently
RN
you're probably going to hit the same server unless you reset tunnel and get lucky, doesn't it pick the "closest"
orignal
where I can go for torrents?
orignal
I didn't try to connect
RN
btdigg.i2p gives you magnets, but they are for outernet torents,, they SOMETIMES have I2P seeders
orignal
"too many requests" was for the first connection
RN
sumo wrestler?
orignal
it seems it's juts overloaded
RN
if you saw him just click the button
orignal
and people at kislista compain too
RN
I know he has been actively working on it lasst couple weeks
RN
if YOU have other routers in different locations, maybe try through one of those
orignal
no, there was no sumo
RN
in a pinch, you could get a torrent from skank.i2p
orignal
just "too many requeust" error
orignal
where?
T3s|4
RN: the vast majority of the very few remaining US manufacturing companies lie about their 'made in America' claim(s). What the truth is: we buy 80-90% of our sub-components/assemblies from China, then perform final assembly in the US. That, alone, explains the final horrific product quality ;p
RN
but that'd just be one, and no idea of peers, and not a big file.
RN
I believe dr|z3d has a torrent link for I2P+ updater on his site, skank
RN
also if you get on tracker2 there is a "magnet dump" file you can get, but again probably no info about live peers
orignal
if I need a torrent in clearnet I go to rutracker.org
orignal
and find one
orignal
but what one if supposed to do in I2P?
RN
tracker2, or take chance on outernet magnet.
RN
since your comrades decided to end rutracker.i2p
orignal
no tracker.i2p was not an I2P turrents tracker
orignal
is there a way to fix tracker2 to handle current load?
cumlord
new session usually works when tracker2 gets angry
orignal
it didn't work
not_bob
Shit, no tracker2? Not fun.
not_bob
Oh, there it works. I got the error the frist time, but not the second.
orignal
I couldn't get in
not_bob
I am able to get in on a second router.
not_bob
But, not without some trouble.
orignal
something needs to be done
not_bob
I've sent him a private message.
not_bob
Nothing else I can do.
not_bob
We really need more than one tracker.
orignal
in general
orignal
I'm trying to understand what's a problem
not_bob
Likely someone is hammering it to do a DDoS.
not_bob
t-ru.i2p is the only other "tracker" that really has anything. But, it's not a tracker at all. It's just a forum.
orignal
it's clearnet torrents
T3s|4
I am also failing with tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=Main&reset=1&start=0&limit=20 with '429 Too Many Requests'
orignal
basically rutracker.org
cumlord
been wanting to work on a federated tracker. have some bones in place but it would take a lot of work
snex
instead of a tracker, why not a thing like btdig that just scans DHT stuff and logs it and provides a search form
snex
please dont break any laws tho
not_bob
snex: You can search with btdig.
snex
right
snex
just mirror that functionality instead of having a full tracker
snex
i will help build it as long as whoever hosts it gives me a written promise that they will do their best to remove illegal files
not_bob
You mean, pretty much all of them? :)
snex
im running for congress i cant afford a scandal
not_bob
Right, right.
not_bob
You would get my vote. If I did that sort of thiong.
snex
an elastic (or similar) database would be great for this
not_bob
I could build a database that can be searched. But, I don't know enough about torrrents to pull the data from the dht.
cumlord
i'd like some sort of content organization, that and every time i've tried to understand i2p's dht it scares me
not_bob
cumlord: It's a mess, I've tried.
cumlord
same
not_bob
At one point I wanted to write a scaper to just scrap the DHT for torrents.
snex
I found some scripts on stackoverflow that allegedly parse through a torrent file from the hash via DHT. I didn’t test them out
T3s|4
hmmh, first 429, reload, then Sumo, reload, then text only, reload, then tracker2
orignal
one tracker in i2p is unacceptable
snex
Another cool thing you could do is, if a torrent has a nfo file, download it and add it to your searchable database
not_bob
Yeah, I can get in sometimes.
cumlord
i tried converting one of the dht cralwers to i2p but that was the roadblock for me so it was a non started
snex
It can’t be that hard
not_bob
Changing my http proxy b32 doesn't seem to matter.
snex
Just read the snark code and see what it’s doing
cumlord
yeah tbf i didn't read the code when i tried that and decided it would take too long to understand it and just did the other thing
snex
Even a DHT indexer will be hit with DDoS even from regular users. You need somebody who can donate the hardware and bandwidth
snex
I wonder if this is something that can just be built right into snark…
snex
Just have clients offer a search DHT option and it just queues it up and takes as long as it takes
snex
Give option to download nfo files and search them too
cumlord
i remember idk stating he didn't want that but i could be mistaken
not_bob
There are reasons to not want that.
cumlord
but as a app if it could be done why not i guess
cumlord
it will grab .torrent file and just download the .nfo?
snex
yeah. not sure why you wouldnt want this. like each client would maintain its own little elastic db of files it serves
snex
then another client says "hey do you have 'manjaro 69.420'?"
snex
all DHT peers reply with an info hash or a 404
snex
then your client gets the file list and possible NFO files of those hashes and you decide if that torrent is what you want or not
snex
or the client response can just give the full file list and NFO content with highlighted search terms
cumlord
iirc he said didn't want abuse material type stuff easily searchable within snark
not_bob
cumlord: spot on
snex
i mean you are witnessing the alternative - centralized points of failure
cumlord
ah i see
snex
if somebody did fork snark and made these changes and released it as a standalone, then i suspect users would simply shift towards that fork regardless of what anybody else wants
cumlord
discuss.i2p/viewtopic.php?t=148 is the roundabout thing i was thinking, so ideally other people would chose to run their own
cumlord
snex yeah that is a good point if it's out there people will use it
cumlord
it would be the best way to do that
snex
you could also offer a "ban infohash" feature for users who find a no-no hash so they can just add this hash to their ban list
snex
or ban keywords so any torrent that responds to those keywords never gets returned
snex
and then that hash automatically gets added to their ban list
snex
eg i add the phrase "clown porn" to my ban list and any search result with > 0.75 (adjustable) confidence doesnt show up and my client adds its hash to my banned hashes list
snex
also have a whitelist feature and an extensive blacklist view feature so you can find false positives and whitelist them
snex
perhaps yet another option for users to "donate" disk space to index torrents they have witnessed but dont themselves serve
RN
snex, maybe you should revive sponge's ddb implementation "seedless"
zzz
there's plenty of _trackers_. what you really want is more places or ways to do _torrent discovery_.
RN
if it was set up right as an I2P plugin, maybe there'd be a case for hooking it into snark
RN
I think most people are saying tracker when they mean torrent index site
snex
right thats what im talking about - have snark (or whatever) maintain an elaticserch db that other clients can query over DHT
snex
like have no centralized site at all, just p2p communication
cumlord
yes rn
RN
yeah snex seedless was just the distributed dht implemented for I2P. had potential, but sponge was not always easy to work with on technical stuff.
zzz
there's some threads on zzz.i2p about it from years ago, DHT search is pretty messy and nonstandard and hard
RN
I still get requests to my eepsite asking for Seedless
zzz
you're venturing into imule/muwire territory
RN
after all these years
zzz
and yes seedless
cumlord
in theory it sounds great but i'm worried about an avalanche of cp getting mixed in with my clown porn searches
snex
i mean whats hard? client A sends a search phrase. client B runs that phrase through their elasticdb. either gets results or not
snex
youre more likely to get flooded with porn from india as those people think adding more search terms is always better even when those search terms dont apply
snex
(pls dont cancel me not racist)
RN
(side note - it makes it easier for us to mix up tracker/index when postman's site is called tracker2 so people think the index part is always part of a tracker)
RN
LOL metadata stuffing
zzz
what you want is a service like piratebay/torrentgalaxy/eztv/etc. scrape those, take anything with > 1000 seed+leech, query dht or opentrackers to find out how many in i2p, add RSS or scrape from postman, put it all on a eepsite
zzz
add a RSS and a search box. and _maybe_ snark learns how to suck in RSS
snex
but why do we want that? thats just another target for DDoS or LE
orignal
we need more eesites with torrents
zzz
b/c dht search is hard. look on my forum for old discussions
cumlord
yeah, i don't think that's a bad idea, could even add in tracker2 torrents from magnet dump
snex
adding elastic to snark would be easy - although its quite large
zzz
there are ppl scraping or rss'ing postman, b/c every torrent no matter how obscure rapidly gets a few leeches
snex
i still dont see whats hard about client A sending out a search phrase and its peers checking locally and responding
RN
implement it and you'll uncover the challenging parts
cumlord
yup, i've been noticing that
zzz
you're not going to win the discussion by convincing me it's easy; I won't win by convincing you it's not. Do your own research
snex
well i mean 1 layer should be easy. the hard part would be peers asking other peers
RN
I have forgotten the details but spend many hours testing with that ol guy
snex
but we dont need the search to be "exhaustive" - it can be something that periodically pings out looking for responses. if the user finds what they want, they turn the search off. if not, they keep it active
RN
and how to find the other peers, and what kind of reccords can be pushed into it. don't make it torrents only and it can be used for many other fun things
RN
I'd disagree, leave it on, just close the 'search function' webui, or you won't have enough of them running long enough to support each other
zzz
the biggest thing we're lacking is finding out what clearnet torrents are available in i2p. a postman clone won't help; neither will dht search, unless bigly supports it
zzz
you want a piratebay/torrentgalaxy/eztv scraper/clone
orignal
checsums?
snex
well the problem that spurred this discussion was tracker2 being unresponsive and rate limiting people after 1 request. piratebay clone wont solve that issue. we have no billionaire benefactor willing to host these sites for us
orignal
if you know torrents checksum it's esay
RN
maybe instead of scraping all those, just present it with a magnet and let it test presence in I2P and have an api so it could be integrated into snark, bbt, or other purposes like i2pchat app
RN
(checksum ≈ hash ≈ magnet)
snex
i ran across bitmagnet last week when researching this stuff. seems interesting but also seems sus to run over clearnet
orignal
prorbably rutracker.org is the biggest torrent service now
not_bob
rutracker has a lot of good stuff.
snex
btdig.com
cumlord
yeah bitmagnet is the one i tried to hack for i2p and gave up pretty quickly
zzz
I don't mean a literal clone. Something that does what they do. grab a list of infohashes/titles, find out how many seeds/leeches inside our net, put it on a eepsite
orignal
then if margnet is just hash of content
orignal
it's easy
RN
someone is still running a piratebay onion
snex
right but if its on an eepsite, its a central point of failure
orignal
I think Russia is the pirate capital now ))
orignal
most of torrent services are Russian
not_bob
*** nods at orignal. ***
dr|z3d
bitmagnet is "A self-hosted BitTorrent indexer, DHT crawler, content classifier and torrent search engine with web UI, GraphQL API and Servarr stack integration."
orignal
and remeber yandex don't filter them out
orignal
juts type <name> torrent in search
orignal
and you will find a lot
zzz
if we only have one of something, sometimes the best answer is to get one or two more. "full distributed" isn't always the next thing after "one"
cumlord
orignal yup, it's why not willing to host my own magnets atm, need to find a russian with hardware
RN
also the person(s) running a site like zzz is describing have to consider the risk of making so many requests to tracker sites to do the scraping... though I am not aware of anyone getting in trouble for looking what is there, just actual uploading/sharing
orignal
I'm a Russian with hardware. Then?
cumlord
zzz i was hoping for federated
snex
users dont want the experience of "oh tracker2 doesnt have it now let me try tracker3" they just want to search and go. dunno if anybody remembers popcorn-time but that was hugely popular
orignal
that's what you do when find something rare
orignal
for example you can patched Windows there nnmclub.to
zzz
and if we had 3 sites all with RSS and we integrated a feed reader/aggregator into snark?
snex
then youre hating life when they go down
snex
and having to constantly make code changes to adjust for new ones, ones going offline
snex
bisq recently lost a seed node. they had to force users to upgrade because seed nodes are hard coded
cumlord
if i make, willing to host it original?
orignal
host what?
snex
it just seems to me that if i can type in a straight infohash and DHT can find it, then it ought to be able to find human readable search terms too
cumlord
simple torrent site with metadata/magnets original
dr|z3d
bitmagnet could be made to work over i2p, though it's won't be just tweaking a couple of lines of code I suspect.
RN
woulnt that require the dht to be storing that info? otherwise, parsing it and requesting details like file names is already talking to a peer, you're like a half step from downloading it already
cumlord
that's what i think
snex
it would require every client to store that info in a searchable db yes
dr|z3d
one of the entries on the "pipe dream features" list is vaguely in sync with i2p, perhaps someone wants to context the developer:
dr|z3d
> Something that looks like a decentralized private tracker; by this I probably mean something that’s based partly on personal trust and manually weeding out any bad actors; I’d be wary of creating something that looks a bit like Tribler, which while an interesting project seems to have demonstrated that implementing trust, reputation and privacy at the protocol level carries too much overhead to b
dr|z3d
e a compelling alternative to plain old BitTorrent, for all its imperfections
snex
you are definitely increasing your client footprint - but the bennies are massive
orignal
how much resources does it need?
orignal
memory, disk space, bandwidth
dr|z3d
are you asking about bitmagnet, orignal?
cumlord
let me check
orignal
<cumlord> simple torrent site with metadata/magnets original
orignal
about this
RN
hahaha... flux thinks "massive benies" look like WonderWoman
dr|z3d
there are currently 2 available tracker site platforms that run over i2p _by default_ that I know of.
snex
RN: wat?
cumlord
as it is now, about 100mb of space, 50mb memory for the app itself plus nginx
Irc2PGuest83887
dr|z3d: decentralized private tracker++
RN
this with the correct spelling: cake.i2p/file/DyQguR22fj_X2WEvoLclG20SmTrX7CTS7Rl7dBptw_WovIrd216d/massive%20bennies.png
RN
but spelled benies it is making pics of wonder woman
RN
LOL
cumlord
it doesn't have images and is mostly text only, if images were added that'd probably be most of the disk usage
Irc2PGuest83887
would be great to be able to distribute big files over i2p using bittorent without publishing to public trackers
Irc2PGuest83887
I think there's a tracker plugin for the router but could never get it to work
orignal
it's nothing
dr|z3d
github.com/vituperative/flyte is one (the original bytemonsoon which postman forked)
dr|z3d
both of those have fairly reasonable server requirements. if your vps can run nginx and serve 10s of users concurrently, it can probably run either without issue.
dr|z3d
distributing files via bitorrent over i2p is just a question of creating a torrent, starting said torrent, and sharing the hash.
dr|z3d
well done, snex, that's a start.
RN
rss getting hashes "out there" is a good feature
orignal
sharing wwhere?
Irc2PGuest83887
dr|z3d: you can give that people and have them paste it into their i2psnark?
snex
yes
dr|z3d
you can, mesh.
snex
put in a random sha1 see what pops up lol
dr|z3d
because snark enables open trackers and dht by default.
cumlord
Yeah I tried to make it minimal, but easy to add mass amounts of torrents
dr|z3d
so any time you create a new torrent in snark, it'll automatically get propagated to the open trackers and dht.
cumlord
Just rss might even be easier though
Irc2PGuest83887
I guess that makes sense. you don't really need a tracker. you just need a "secret hash distribution" mechanism. It's not very secure though....
snex
here is a hash that you might like: FAD6CA0EDBE7AC0B63365B512988620B9C45DB1B
orignal
can I just insert it into snark?
cumlord
Yeap so the issue is finding the hash
dr|z3d
sure you can, orignal
cumlord
Yeap
orignal
lemme try
dr|z3d
paste that in the add torrent input. hashes work.
orignal
into URL?
dr|z3d
yup
not_bob
snex: :)~
snex
hello 8cbE
orignal
SAWP.avi
Irc2PGuest83887
I think what I really want is unison over i2p. It should be fairly easy to setup because unison can sync over direct sockets.
RN
spoiler, that hash is probably snax's podcast
dr|z3d
we KNOW it's snex's podcast.
dr|z3d
without even downloading it..
dr|z3d
*** chuckles. ***
RN
;)
orignal
I don't care
orignal
I'm testing my I2CP implemntation )))
snex
and wof2
orignal
so it doesn't matter what's inside
snex
you probably dont want to watch this video
snex
its not illegal or anything
snex
but... dont watch it
snex
its not my podcast lol
Irc2PGuest83887
distributing hashes is easy... setup a rss feed haha. zzz's right, that's a solved problem. it would be cool if there was an integrated solution though
not_bob
snex: That file is fake. I can tell from the pixels.
dr|z3d
subscribe/download torrents via RSS has been suggested previously.
snex
users dont search for hashes. users search for human readable search terms
orignal
based on fule name I guess it's porn
Irc2PGuest83887
but I guess I don't like that just anybody can grab my sekrits if they know the hash.
snex
how dare you suggest i would host a fake SWAP.avi
snex
why? thats why you are seeding it lol
not_bob
I'll be upset if it's not the real thing.
orignal
ha ha
dr|z3d
if you want private torrents over i2p, encrypt the data before you seed it.
snex
if you want to host secret files, encrypt them first
orignal
upload speed is higher than download ))
snex
JUNX
snex
JINX
RN
equal number of peers and seeds?
Irc2PGuest83887
dr|z3d: yeah I thought about that, but then anybody who has a public key can decrypt it. Unless you do the reverse: create a seed for each recipient and encrypt it using their public key
orignal
probably
dr|z3d
you can encrypt however you like, password protect, pub/priv key, whatever suits.
snex
thats not how encrypting works. you encrypt your file using the public key of the recipent
snex
then only the recipient can decrypt it
Irc2PGuest83887
I just want to be sure an "authorized user" is downloading the data. The easiest way to do this is just to setup an ftp server with authorized users which is what I've done. But you don't get the torrenting goodness that way.
dr|z3d
that's one way, snex. not the only way.
RN
sure, unless you plan to release the key to select persons at a later time
snex
if you encrypt it with the recipent's public key and other people download it, theyre basically just helping you host it for free
orignal
share encrypted zip file
orignal
old method
snex
using asym keys means you dont have to worry about sending them a password
Irc2PGuest83887
but users can easily use a program like WinScp to sync the ftp server down which adds a bit of resiliency
RN
winscp is "oaky" but it is not very efficient compared to using ssh/sftp etc on a real OS
RN
or, to rephrase that like the good doctor would, winSCP is not performant
orignal
and sftp exists on windows 10
orignal
built in
RN
ah, power shell stuff? or separate?
cumlord
here's another one for you if you're testing, snarks are on i2pd now bcdfa625d67342e8442df19e1a79775857522751
Irc2PGuest83887
is there a way to mirror tracker2? I would love to be able to have my own tracker2 that contains all the info and is fully searchable even if the prime tracker2 is too overloaded or is even unavailable
RN
considering postman is currently battling bots... scraping tracker2 is probably not something he would welcome...
Irc2PGuest83887
my god is there is anything worse than functional programmers
orignal
cmd, powershell, whatever
orignal
just system command
orignal
ssh and sftp
zzz
postman has RSS, no need to scrape
orignal
cumlord I2CP is not good in i2pd 2.53.1
orignal
only trunk is good
Irc2PGuest83887
RN: not scraping. A place where I can go each day and download a dump of postman's db. It's backed by a real db, right? Could this be dumped into a SQLite file?
RN
he does offer a magnet dump, not sure the inclusion criterion for that
snex
functional programming = write-only programming
orignal
yes, guys from kislitsa like to do it
RN
otherwise, you'd have to ask him directly
orignal
how about shoomgle's crawler ?
orignal
shmoogle's
zzz
I believe there's per-category RSS or maybe even custom RSS you can configure also
RN
yes the rss features are good
RN
mesh@j6.i2p if you just want a daily quick look at what is new and don't want to rss for it, planet.i2p gives such a summary
RN
not the most modern looking site, but it does do its job
zzz
I believe there's a bigly RSS plugin, somebody go try it and report back
RN
oh?
RN
hmmmm....
RN
I think that auto downloads what is in the rss feed... been a while since I looked
j6
likely
j6
there's rss feature in most torrent clients, makes sense that it'd auto-download, e.g. you might have a feed for downloading new releases of your favourite thing (linux iso, totally legal movie serial, whatever)
RN
*** nods ***
RN
I'd like to see the entries scroll across like an old school rss ticker
RN
and choose them myself
cumlord
it seems better than it was, might split java/i2pd again
RN
I used to do that in my browser
orignal
why?
RN
me? because I had news feeds, and new torrents scroll across in my browser to quickly see what was new without opening several sites
Irc2PGuest83887
my point was that if there's too much load on tracker2 I could host a mirror but I suppose nobody would trust my mirror of tracker2, I certainly wouldn't, but then people do download actual executable software from postman because they're insane
orignal
why split?
snex
problem is its not a mirror (unless you make it read only)
zzz
you could also try Sonarr + snark-rpc-plugin + snark; sonarr does rss
Irc2PGuest83887
the mirror would download a dump once a day at most
cumlord
Test how to get most amount of throughput I get, I can see all the snarks on my multiplexer script
Irc2PGuest83887
but it could work with rss. this would make the mirror into a stateful service that would incrementally accumulate all the new releases on postman and store them into its own db
snex
unless postman is storing attachments as blobs in the db, youd have to get all that junk too
snex
also .torrent files can be fairly large sometimes
snex
i suspect his db is huge
RN
if you really want to support tracker2, and postman decides he needs more multi homes, I'm sure he'd work with you, then it wouldnt be a clone, but hosting a node for him
cumlord
Throughput is a bottleneck for me so I tinker
RN
but you gotta ask him that directly. and I doubt he feels more nodes multihoming is what is needecdx
Irc2PGuest83887
snex: yeah that's a good point. I don't want all the comments and users and craps. just the hashes and filenames, maybe the descs
cumlord
zzz yes bigly's rss plugin works in i2p
cumlord
last time i tried anyway
dr|z3d
you have to be logged in to tracker2 to grab the dump file.
dr|z3d
then the dump file should be available on you profile page. it's rate limited, don't try downloading it ever hour.
dr|z3d
*every
Irc2PGuest83887
dr|z3d: you're right. there is a dump file. and its only 3mb
Irc2PGuest83887
haha this is exactly what I need. I can open this in vim and search it super fast
Irc2PGuest83887
this solves the problem. I won't be using tracker2's search functionality any more and load should be reduced by 50%
RN
mesh I mentioned the tracker2 magnet dump file like 3-4 hours ago.
Irc2PGuest83887
RN: I obviously thought you were lying. You're hardly trustworthy.
RN
wow. okaaay.
dr|z3d
RN is +O, behave yourself mesh.
Irc2PGuest83887
though it would be cool if the dump included some more info about activity,size,and language. I guess this is a good start though.
dr|z3d
*** chuckles. ***
cumlord
forgot i was going to share this but here's the class of the multisnark thing cake.i2p/view/2HcYeHfLr5_2f1YJgQF6QuFHAPpc8jgGoJtf8gPXx_xGNatPKUjh/snarks
dr|z3d
post it on ramble if you want it to be more widely available. backtick[your code]backtick
dr|z3d
where backtick is that single open quote character.
cumlord
I guess I could do that, planned to share it altogether when the cli part is less buggy, that’s just the class for parsing and sensing start/stop commands
cumlord
I’ll share it later on there and discuss as is
dr|z3d
whatever suits. remember you can edit an existing post once it's up so it always has the latest revision.
j6
` != ' ;)
dr|z3d
that was my point. I specified backtick, not single quote.
j6
yet also said "where backtick is that single open quote character" to confuse things
RN
apostrophe vs single quote
dr|z3d
it's not an apostrophe either. :)
j6
no, those two are the same
RN
not on my keyboard
RN
hmmm
zzz
Klein fangirls ++
j6
' is both apostrophe and single quote, just like - is both minus sign and hyphen
RN
" and ' are on same key. ` is under ~
dr|z3d
that's bit leftfield, zzz. wha?
j6
" and ' are on the opposite sides of the keyboard, diagonally, ` and ~ are on the opposite sides on the same row >;P
zzz
you may safely ignore drz ))
RN
*** snips a wire ***
j6
most unambiguous way to call ` is just "grave [accent]" ;P
snex
backtick is backtick. usually on the tilde key
j6
"usually" is highly dependent on keyboard layout, but yeah
j6
anyway, when's ramble gonna get a signup (and make the password reset not give a 500 error, lol)
RN
yeah, and careful j6 we are probably leaking what countries we got our keyboards from
RN
LOL
j6
I have an altgr, my keyboard is superior to you double-alters
j6
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j6
tbh that's prolly enough to figure out what keyboard layout I use, lol
j6
it's ALMOST readable even!
dr|z3d
*** pokes zzz hard in the ribs. ***
RN
:) almost
j6
mmm, ribs
RN
♫ ♪ baby back - baby back - baby back - ♪ ♫
snex
thats just APL
snex
i think its an APL program to solve reimann zeroes
RN
ubikey?
RN
that's what an LLM would say snex, clearly not aware of the conversation
snex
an LLM would definitely not recognize j6's gibberish as standard characters from an APL keyboard
j6
because they aren't APL characters
j6
←↓→↑ MIGHT be, the rest are definitely not
j6
lol
snex
im pretty sure they are
RN
I'm only unsure of the next to last word