~dr|z3d
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dr|z3d
ok, -28+ available on the /dev/ update path, featuring zzz's new translation status report @ 127.0.0.1:7657/debug?d=6 with + enhancements
zzz
woot, did it find all 18 resources? I know you have stuff all moved around
dr|z3d
> Translation Summary (18 resources, 40 languages, 4170 strings)
zzz
great, you have 900 more strings than we do, wow
dr|z3d
that'll be the /help/ section.
zzz
ok
dr|z3d
there are a few things you might want to do slightly differently, though you may not want to include all my mods.
zzz
I'll take a run at it in a week or two when I do the CSS
dr|z3d
you can probably take most of the css I've changed with a little tweaking of your ids/classes.
zzz
maybe check and X instead of yes/no
dr|z3d
instead of per-theme mods, there's a single file. easier to maintain, no need to do it all 4 times (or twice in your case).
dr|z3d
you want to avoid using deprecated html, I'm specially looking at align=".."
dr|z3d
*specifically
zzz
yeah pulled most of that out in prep for css but may have missed some
zzz
I have 2 1/2 months to spiff it up
dr|z3d
sure, no rush for you. I just wanted it in this release if I could do the work in time.
dr|z3d
handy
dr|z3d
they'll be giving away free AI with your cornflakes soon.
dr|z3d
mark my words.
dr|z3d
I tried a while back to prevent the po scripts from wrapping the text to multiple lines, but couldn't get anywhere with it. any ideas, zzz?
dr|z3d
Today's word of the day is moufflon / mouflon: wild mountain sheep of Corsica and Sardinia
zzz
you can look in the GNU gettext man pages / web pages / po file specs, but I don't advise messing with it
zzz
if it aint broke dont fix it
dr|z3d
I scoured all of that, couldn't get it to not break lines at 80 chars whatever I tried. oh well.
zzz
the whole thing is a little janky and best not messed with...
dr|z3d
:)
dr|z3d
one issue I do see, indonesian lang code is wrong.
dr|z3d
the files are suffixed _in, when they should be _id
dr|z3d
> one issue I do see, indonesian lang code is wrong.
dr|z3d
> the files are suffixed _in, when they should be _id
zzz
thats a whole can of worms
dr|z3d
!
zzz
thats a whole can of worms
dr|z3d
!!!
zzz
the ISO lang codes aren't forever, sometimes they change
zzz
but java keeps the old flavor and has some magic inside it to deal
zzz
see notes in .tx/config
dr|z3d
yeah, it mostly does handle things, but installer/resources/locale/ seems like an outlier.
zzz
but not all of our tx resources are handled by java, some are not (like installer and debian), so we have to know when to switch and when not
zzz
see also notes and code in TranslationReport
dr|z3d
ok, thanks. as you say, can o' worms.
zzz
Legacy language codes
zzz
Locale's constructor has always converted three language codes to their earlier, obsoleted forms: he maps to iw, yi maps to ji, and id maps to in. This continues to be the case, in order to not break backwards compatibility.
zzz
The APIs added in 1.7 map between the old and new language codes, maintaining the old codes internal to Locale (so that getLanguage and toString reflect the old code), but using the new codes in the BCP 47 language tag APIs (so that toLanguageTag reflects the new one). This preserves the equivalence between Locales no matter which code or API is used to construct them. Java's default resource bundle lookup mechanism
zzz
also implements this mapping, so that resources can be named using either convention, see ResourceBundle.Control.
dr|z3d
so if the file suffix is, say, _in, then the Language: field in the file should also be in? or it doesn't matter?
zzz
shouldnt matter
dr|z3d
ok, thanks.
zzz
see,transifex stuffs that in and it doesn't know about java lang codes
dr|z3d
yeah, poedit does the same I think.
dr|z3d
ok, so for installer/resources/locale, file suffix needs to be id not in, or the reporter thinks it's untranslated.
zzz
yeah, actually the installer is java
zzz
no, I have it wrong, that's the translations for the shell script, non-java
dr|z3d
yeah, if it was java then in would work fine, no? as it is, _in causes it to not be recognized by reporter.
dr|z3d
if it's slightly confusing to you, color the rest of us baffled++ :)
zzz
> ls installer/resources/locale/po/
zzz
messages_ar.po messages_de.po messages_fi.po messages_it.po messages_nl.po messages_ro.po messages_tr.po
zzz
messages_az.po messages_en.po messages_fr.po messages_ja.po messages_pl.po messages_ru.po messages_uk.po
zzz
messages_ca.po messages_es_AR.po messages_hu.po messages_ko.po messages_pt_BR.po messages_sk.po messages_zh.po
zzz
messages_cs.po messages_es.po messages_id.po messages_nb.po messages_pt.po messages_sv.po messages_zh_TW.po
dr|z3d
yup, there it is, _id!
zzz
all good over here
dr|z3d
all good over here :)
zzz
the izpack translations come with izpack, we haven't bothered to put them up on transifex for additional
dr|z3d
yeah, not much really needs translating there.. next, prev.. already translated.
dr|z3d
I keep the extra info minimal.
dr|z3d
are you counting fuzzy strings as translated in the percentages? it looks like you are?
zzz
afaik fuzzies don't survive transifex or msgfmt
dr|z3d
ok
dr|z3d
I'm just seeing pretty much everything at 100%, and I know there are fuzzies around.
dr|z3d
I mean, I know our translations are pretty good coverage wise, but they're not *that* good :)
dr|z3d
not for strings I haven't translated yet, anyways.
dr|z3d
vaguely recall you saying something to eyedeekay a while back about fuzzy retention.
zzz
the % is calc'ed from the max number of translated strings across all langs; if every lang is missing the same strings, it won't be accurate; you would have to count the # of strings in the source po
dr|z3d
hmm. ok.
zzz
or, more simply, it only works if at least one language is 100%
dr|z3d
I had a perl script, can't find it, that did more or less the same thing, except it worked with .po files and excluded fuzzies.
zzz
yeah, to do it right, you'd have to rewrite that script in java
zzz
I'll add some commments to the generator explaining the shortcut I took