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                        orignal
                    
                    
                        gents, Vort has an idea
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        why don't we count only active transit tunnels, e.g. where at least 1 byte went through?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        we're still spending resources being in an inactive tunnel, orignal, or you're suggesting we *also* count active transits?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        we could show total/active if that's what you're suggesting, and timeout participating tunnels that don't have any traffic after x seconds, perhaps. iirc, canon doesn't display inactive participating tunnels on their tunnels page.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes, and apply limits to active tunnels only
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        why do you think they consume resource?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        just record in hash table and layer encryption key
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        the point is if you have limit of 1000 transit tunnels, but you have 10000 whene 9000 are incative
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        if an atacker try to flood with tunnel, inactive tunnels wouldn't count
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        orignal: if an attacker's creating tunnels that aren't sending data, we should watch for that and just drop the tunnel after x seconds of inactivity.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        what's reasonable? 2 minutes?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        the issue is that there may be false positives.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        not sure that's much of an issue, however. inactive tunnels can easily get rebuilt.
                    
                
                
                    
                        not_bob
                    
                    
                        I seem to generate tunnels that don't get used much sometimes.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        no, it's woong
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        destinations usually create backup tunnels that stay inactive for 8 minutes for exampple
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        and become active when main one is being replaced
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        you can count your tunnels and otherwise manage/limit your resources (memory, bandwidth, etc.) however you want
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        but once you accept a tunnel that's an 11-minute commitment, you can't change your mind 2 minutes later
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        Transit Tunnels: 71706
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        zzz, how much resources does an inactive tunnel consume?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        zzz, that's what I mean if I accept I don't drop for 11 minutes. But I don't conunt for limits
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        not much
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        but not zero
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        that's fine. you can manage your limits however you want
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        <onon1> А уменя позавчера 230к
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        230K transit tunnels
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        his limit is 1M