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dr|z3d wasn't there a proposal/idea floating around somewhere to refresh RI's a bit more frequently, or perhaps before requesting tunnels? can't remember.

orignal many routers still have old routerinfo

orignal well I pick first hops from connected routers

dr|z3d yeah, would make sense to request an up-to-date RI before requesting tunnels, even if there's a bit more traffic involved.

orignal and they are supposed to send new RI every 20 minutes or so

orignal yes I suggest such message in SSU2 and NTCP2 like "request RI"

orignal just from peer

dr|z3d yup, sane.

orignal like "give me your current RI"

dr|z3d indeed, indeed.

orignal costs nothing but can avoid many problems

dr|z3d yeah, it's about 2K of nothing.

RN does either implementation notice if they don't send their new RI every 20 min? or if they stop and start again later?

orignal I don't think so

RN like if you have one that's 40 min old and no new one, do you forget the old one?

orignal no I check if it's still connected

orignal and keep it

dr|z3d there's an expiry time in java, which scales depending on number of known RIs.

dr|z3d in + it's also dependent on the "quality" of the router.

orignal yes, but current connected shoudn't be removed

orignal as long as they are connected

dr|z3d right, I don't think we do that.

RN noticing it has stale ri but still connected, do you ask for a new one?

orignal how can I do it?

RN ah

orignal no message for this

RN so that's the feature you are proposing?

orignal right

orignal to implement such message

dr|z3d you'd ask a floodfill right now, but asking the router directly would be more efficient.

orignal even not a message, just block

orignal asking a floodfill is too much overhead

zzz no new feature proposal needed, just send a DatabaseLookupMessage

orignal shoudl non-FF reply to such message or ignore it?

orignal or reply with closest floodfill?

zzz reply for your own RI, or any RI

zzz closest for LS

orignal if I'm not a FF I ignore lookups

zzz drop for expl. lookup

orignal considering it as kinda attack

zzz not really, in case a router "forgets" all its ffs, it will ask a non-ff

orignal it should send an exploratory request

zzz if non-ff we also send our own RI, as a 'go away' message, so requester realizes it's a non-ff

orignal anyway I will doble check

orignal thanks

orignal will check

zzz but definitely if non-ff drop expl lookup, and a very low rate limit on RI lookup, because there is a scraper out there

orignal so we reply with own ident hash for explratiry request in non-FF?

orignal LeaseSets: 401

orignal new record

zzz no, just drop expl if non-ff

orignal no reponse at all?

orignal and when I send own back?

zzz no response for expl

zzz send your own RI back any time, no restrictions except down tunnels

orignal and 3 closest floodfill regardless if I'm a floodfill or not?

zzz yes, if you don't have the RI, for a RI lookup only. If you do have the RI, send it (but rate limit)

orignal and in which I send own routerinfo instead?

orignal and I guess leasetset requests should be dropped too

zzz yes drop LS, I don't understand the other question

orignal <zzz> if non-ff we also send our own RI, as a 'go away' message, so requester realizes it's a non-ff

orignal in which we do it?

orignal *case

zzz for an RI lookup I think

zzz not down tunnel ofc

orignal but it which case

orignal ?

orignal if we usually reply with list of floodfills

orignal or RI if found

zzz basically we do same thing for RI lookup whether ff or not. ONly difference is much lower rate limit if non-ff

orignal got it no

orignal w

orignal so if you exceed rate limit you send own RI back

orignal we should be prepared for more attack next year

not_bob Agreed

orignal although we are ahead of them now, we must think in advance

orignal "salt" guy was really disappointed

orignal <Orignal_huesos> Какие конкретно меры по предотвращению eclipse калека предпринял в коде?

zzz no if rate limit exceeded, drop

dr|z3d tell him we added anti-donut countermeasures, orignal

not_bob Can I keep the holes?

not_bob RTP: Welcome!

RTP heyy all

not_bob Things going well?

RTP pretty good here! dealing with testing some suspected counterfeit flash drive tests.. so much of this junk hardware out there!

not_bob There are some nifty tools for testing those quikcly.

RTP everyone enjoying their iphone backdoors? arstechnica.com/security/2023/12/exploit-used-in-mass-iphone-infection-campaign-targeted-secret-hardware-feature :-P

not_bob Yeah, saw that. Lovely.

not_bob And, it's been used for years.

RTP ahh yes, using f3: "fight flash fraud" :-P

not_bob A rather complex chain to make it work though.

not_bob zero click exploits are a major issue.

dr|z3d there's a good tool for that, RTP.

RTP yeah so much interesting stuff in the ANT catalogue... among other releases. Sh** goes deep.

dr|z3d it'll take dodgy thumb drives and remap them so they're correctly allocated.

not_bob dr|z3d: I don't think that's possible. The firmware lies to the computer.

RTP ahh any tool you suggest?

RTP yeah the firmware lies about capacity unfortunately

RTP which makes it tricky for most casual buyers

not_bob I've used a few, they all work the same.

dr|z3d the tool partitions the drive which ensures that the bogus capacity disappears. let me see if I can find it.

not_bob Create a large file, randomly write to it, and see what read results come back with an error.

not_bob dr|z3d: I could see that working, but still best to trash dodgy hardware like that.

dr|z3d RTP: apt install f3

RTP complex backdoor design.. layered approach to concealment ;D

RTP ahhh thanks. That's actually the one I am using now. :)

dr|z3d not_bob: not necessarily, you may find you have a drive half the capacity of what you paid for, but you have something.

dr|z3d a-essam.medium.com/how-to-recover-a-corrupted-flash-memory-using-f3-tools-under-linux-e662c3622d68

not_bob Curious.

dr|z3d I've fixed drives using that tool.

not_bob I bought one once that was to be a 2TB drive. It had 32 gigs writable.

dr|z3d advertised as 32GB, actual capacity 16GB.

dr|z3d lol

dr|z3d that'll teach you to buy too good to be true capacity at ridiculous prices on ebay.

RTP it's tricky as sometimes places change their quality on you... IME.

dr|z3d I was specifically referring to not_bob's purchase

dr|z3d branded is the way to go, from an authentic supplier, even it if costs more.

not_bob dr|z3d: I thought it might possibly be fine.

not_bob It wasn't.

dr|z3d I've been stung before, not_bob, you're not alone.

dr|z3d these days, branded drives are dirt cheap, so no real sense saving a couple of bucks.

not_bob Agreed.

dr|z3d the fraud is pretty amusing, though. I think some of them use ram as a cache, so you can write the full capacity, only it ends up writing over your data once you go past the *actual* capacity.

not_bob *nod*

RTP sometimes I find we can be best off buying used hardware *shrugs*

RTP at least we know it works

dr|z3d though not for flash drives, or indeed any solid state storage.

dr|z3d until you plug it in and do some tests, assuming the firmware supports it, you don't know how hard the device has been hammered and what the remaining predicted usage is. not worth it.

RTP true. And flash can go *poof* without any real warning at times... still once in a while I'll get a large used to hold for backups... but wouldn't rely on it for serious work

dr|z3d did you get anywhere with Railroad, RTP?

RTP Holidays have kept me a bit occupied, but planning to sometime soon after I get my server operating system set up. Working on hardware end of my server plan lately. :)

dr|z3d you and RN have a lot in common.

dr|z3d professional procrastinators, both. :)

not_bob lol

RTP hahaha I like to get involved with too many projects at once. But it is a real plan to put up my i2p based blog. But... surely has not gone quickly yet LOL. I did compile / flash the coreboot based firmware for server though... That's a start!

not_bob We need more quality I2P based blogs.

not_bob RTP: Did you ever use galaxy3 on tor?

RTP You know I haven't tried galaxy3

not_bob Oh, shit. That's right.

not_bob Wehave talked about that before.

dr|z3d you just need to install the plugin first, RTP. then it'll sit there in your router waiting for you to tickle it into action. installation is a copy / paste url affair.

dr|z3d not_bob: while you're there, in your defcon css, remove any reference to the ubuntu font.

not_bob It's in there?

dr|z3d it's probably something like: font-family: Open Sans, Ubuntu Sans, .. the Ubuntu Sans or whatever it is needs to disappear.

not_bob Ahh, I see it.

not_bob Just remove the ubuntu bit?

dr|z3d the problem is it's a lot smaller relative to most other sans serif fonts, so when it's used, it janks the UI.

dr|z3d yup

not_bob Let me do that across homes.

dr|z3d and the other problem is, with firefox's anti-fingerprinting on smash, access to local fonts except a small predefined selection is verboten, so you end up with ubuntu often.

not_bob Ahh

not_bob Done and testing.

not_bob Slowly.

dr|z3d the top nav buttons were the main victims.

not_bob It still looks good here. Let me try android.

dr|z3d vertically misaligned text and search bar out of whack when ubuntu font was active.

dr|z3d if it still looks good, then you're fine.

not_bob Lame, thank you.

not_bob dr|z3d: Thank you for caring.

dr|z3d np nb

dr|z3d also, if you have an account on 333.i2p, feel free to use your new avatar there.

dr|z3d or indeed anywhere else.

not_bob I do have an ccount on 333.i2p!

not_bob And, I have saved it for just that use!

dr|z3d :)

dr|z3d about time zzz had a new avatar. *grin*

not_bob hah

not_bob New avatar is set on 333.2ip

dr|z3d *thumbs up*

RN should I cueue the drumroll dr?

RN queue

dr|z3d do it, RN, do it now. *chuckle*

dr|z3d done.

RN where da url?

dr|z3d he's all over his site, you'll find him :)

RN pffff

RN oh, grandpa

RN hehe, doesn't look sleepy though

dr|z3d looks like orignal's not allowing avatars on his site except for his own, or his display code is borked.

not_bob Lame

dr|z3d yeah, lame++

not_bob Yep, quite broked.

not_bob orignal: You should fix that.

dr|z3d this is where your avatar is meant to go: <dd class="avatar">INSERT AVATAR HERE</dd>

dr|z3d of course, there's an empty space in the html where it should be.

not_bob hahahaa

dr|z3d bah, sleepy. he looks like someone just woke him up and he ain't happy, RN :)

orignal what? 333?

dr|z3d yeah, F- for you, orignal

orignal avatars worked

orignal if they don't I will check

dr|z3d yours is the only one displaying right now.

orignal let me check

orignal not true

orignal 333.i2p/topics/215-title

orignal for example

dr|z3d 333.i2p/topics/228-/show_new

dr|z3d where's notbob's avatar?

dr|z3d ok, that's one other avatar. outlier.

dr|z3d I see polistern's avatar now, not sure I did before.

dr|z3d Qball aka Qubes must have an avatar.

dr|z3d also, garbage:

dr|z3d <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"

dr|z3d "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

dr|z3d <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">

dr|z3d <!DOCTYPE HTML><html lang=ru> is all you need there.

not_bob Yep, just made a new post, no avatar.

orignal maybe

dr|z3d is it a mimetype thing? do you need to explictly add webp? I dunno, I doubt it, there must be plenty of jpeg/png avatars not displaying.

orignal I didn't do anything special

orignal it's standard eldrorado

dr|z3d that much is obvious :)

dr|z3d special. lol.

not_bob orignal: Everything you do is special.

orignal look 333.i2p/avatars

dr|z3d haha, shut up not_bob

not_bob dr|z3d: Sorry, that one was too hard to pass up on :)

orignal looks like not_bib didn't select it

not_bob I did!

dr|z3d uploading != selecting, apparently.

not_bob I did both.

dr|z3d otherwise it would say "used by not_bob" on that page.

not_bob I click on "select" on the avatar gallery and it brings me back to 333.i2p

orignal yes that's what I meant

dr|z3d you probably need js enabled.

not_bob Oh

orignal I can force it in the database

not_bob Lame.

dr|z3d which is shit, but hey.

not_bob Let me try this.

orignal yes, eldorado uses js

not_bob Yep, it was a JS issue, argh.

orignal nice I see now

orignal so you can start playing with avatars there ))

dr|z3d next gen stuff.

dr|z3d just the right amount of ridiculous, but not too much.

orignal tommorow

not_bob Ш вшп шею

orignal will change it wlm logo

dr|z3d you've got a new avatar orignal. use it.

not_bob Oops, wrong lanague selected.

RTP you are right dr|z3d it does look like a very easy set up - might make for a good video as long as all goes well lol

RTP downloaded it and was about to install... but might record it in case it goes well

RTP I'd like to see more i2p blogs as well

RTP I got Railroad to work!!! :) I recorded it so will be making it into a video tutorial for anyone wanting to host an i2p blog. It's supercool. Thanks eyedeekay!

RTP I skimmed it earlier thinking I had to build it... but all you have to do really is have a working i2p browser set up and paste the link into the dang square... So easy.

dr|z3d well done, RTP!

dr|z3d told you it was easy.. plugin, see. :)

orignal look at my new avatar

orignal as promised

dr|z3d crap, orignal. I am disappoint.

orignal why?

orignal don't like wlm?

dr|z3d looks like something out of a hitler youth poster.

orignal it's from wlm stickers

dr|z3d well, exactly.

orignal I took on from thier telegram channel

dr|z3d I've made you one of the sexiest avatars on the entire planet. use it. :)

dr|z3d also, you remember that part in your conversation where you were insisting politics had no place on the network...

orignal I never said this

orignal I said that politics shouldn't be a part of I2P project

orignal but applied only to a project

dr|z3d right, and you're the lead developer of i2pd, so, you know, things matter.

orignal but it's not an offical position of i2pd, it's my personal

orignal unlike Java where they claim abotu LGBT support on the offcial site of the project

orignal see the difference

dr|z3d sure, there's some road between your position and I2P's, but it's still not a great look aligning yourself with a right-wing political position, even as an individual.

orignal yes, like echelon says

orignal don't use i2pd because it's run by an old white racist ))

orignal at the same time then main dev of yggdrasil is a gay

orignal but who cares

dr|z3d it's all about code, or should be.

orignal and yggdrasil project doesn't have such "Inclusion" section

dr|z3d sure, you and I are on the same page there, no argument.

orignal also my racism and homophobia is not a big secrect

orignal and (surprise!) people find is as pros of i2pd

dr|z3d surprise! would be you telling us you're really a cross-dressing transvestite.

orignal with back skin ))

orignal *black

orignal remember michael jackson?

eyedeekay Literally everyone does.

dr|z3d lol

orignal he wanted to be more white than natural whites ))

dr|z3d michael had issues.

orignal I meant maybe I'm like him ))

dr|z3d there you go, eyedeekay, enhanced harpo: pr3t6cjlcth36djl3qgnfaollcvcs2kbzigzon6derjzjghttp4q.b32.i2p/topics/3450-whoever-changes-the-site-banner-has-good-taste