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zzz
dr|z3d, re: Persian, i2p-metrics is a little messed up because it thinks it's 2024 or something, but it appears to show the same thing
dr|z3d
yeah, zzz, huge hike in numbers in the last 6 months.
dr|z3d
not convinced it's bona fide users, either, at least not on the visible routers.
zzz
may be worth me poking the translators on transifex, they haven't heard from us since June 7, when eyedeekay announced a deadline for 2.3.0
dr|z3d
all but 2 of the Iranian routers in my local netdb identify as P tier.
zzz
doesn't mean too much, since they're all i2pd
dr|z3d
sure, could just be someone making an install script available somewhere, an activist perhaps.
dr|z3d
re poking the translators, might be an idea to publish a new item, reference the translations and the delay in the release.
dr|z3d
*news
zzz
sure, and ask for Persian updates
zzz
done
dr|z3d
*thumbs up*
zzz
yeah, a little care and feeding of the translators can't hurt
not_bob_afk
zzz: I've been slowly chewing through the russian translation.
zzz
esp. since this will be the longest time between releases in the history of the project
zzz
for plus or canon?
not_bob_afk
I assume cannon? drz gave me a .po file to work on.
not_bob_afk
I assume, and I may be wrong, but I assume that work is done on cannon, then imported into plus.
zzz
ok, won't help canon then, but have fun
not_bob_afk
I would hope he would backport any of this into mainline.
zzz
he does not do that
not_bob_afk
:(
zzz
for translations or anything else
not_bob_afk
I was not aware of that.
zzz
the most we get is 'hey I did X, you should do it too'. But no MR's. Not that it would be practical for translations anyway, and our translated po's are on transifex
not_bob_afk
I've never used that before.
zzz
I don't know how you're working, but transifex has machine translation so you push the button and it fills in all the easy stuff for you
not_bob_afk
That is a much more complex setup than I'm using.
not_bob_afk
With the editor I'm using I just read the line and then put the translated one next to it.
not_bob_afk
Ahh!
zzz
are you fluent or are you just google translating every line?
not_bob_afk
I know some Russian.
not_bob_afk
NOt quite fluent, but enough to sight read a lot of things.
zzz
somewhere in between then.
zzz
nice
not_bob_afk
Yep
not_bob_afk
Да это хорошо.
not_bob_afk
It's good.
zzz
plus is in a tough spot on translations because it's not taking our translation updates from transifex any more, so you aren't even benefitting from the army of canon translators
not_bob_afk
Argh. That, and translation of technical things is not very easy.
not_bob_afk
Google transalte is fine for basic stuff, but not when you get very complex.
not_bob_afk
Anyway, back to being AFK for me. Good to have you back.
zzz
thanks
zzz
yeah, you could play with msgmerge but it's very messy. I haven't found any good po tools that deal with multiple sources or reviewing changes. All I have is some fugly shell scripts
not_bob_afk
:(
not_bob_afk
One last thing. notbob.i2p/cgi-bin/blog.cgi?page=447
not_bob_afk
You might like this charecter that I made for the I2P world :)
dr|z3d
too much divergence to pull canon translations.
dr|z3d
as for backporting, you know where the code is, zzz. help yourself :)
dr|z3d
as for what not_bob_afk's translating, even if there was a straight porting path between plus and canon, it wouldn't be of any use to you. he's working pretty much exclusively on the help section, which canon doesn't have.
zzz
was simply correcting his misunderstanding
zzz
and pointing out all the reasons it wasn't easy, which you restated
dr|z3d
sure, I get that. just saying, the parts he's translating don't exist in canon.
zzz
you could ofc make a list of which resources haven't diverged, e.g. core, and yank those at least
zzz
--use-git-timestamps is the magic option for tx pull that I learned today
dr|z3d
core I've pushed through google translate, strings are pretty straightforward, so we're at more or less 100% coverage.
zzz
ok. I'm just happy to have tx working again, it was a fight
dr|z3d
congratulations for coming out on top. :)
zzz
still want to hear from eyedeekay about the 2.3.0 checkin
zzz
was it RN that was reporting a lot of 190-day-old RIs? I'm seeing those also
dr|z3d
vaguely recall something along those lines.
dr|z3d
wasn't paying enough attention, obviously, 190 days?
zzz
yerp
eyedeekay
Which 2.3.0 checkin?
zzz
eyedeekay, see questions in #i2p-dev about 4 hours back
eyedeekay
Oh I haven't checked major yet thanks I will, looks like it's not in my logs here
dr|z3d
zzz was pointing out that fuzzies were being included in the deployed translations
RN
zzz, yes that was me. I was looking at a Plus router, but I see them on Canon as well. On Plus my concern was that even though they were described as "banned until restart or in 179 days" but did not go away at restart.
RN
I have not tested in Canon if they persist after restart
dr|z3d
if they're meeting the same banning criteria post restart, they'll carry on getting banned, RN, but I think we established that.
RN
yep
RN
we did
RN
and it kinda makes sense to me