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T3s|4 o/ mildseven - glad to learn you're getting impressive speed with Starlink. If you don't mind sharing, how much are paying per month for the service?

mildseven AUD$150 T3s|4

mesh then again the whole ".i2p" mechanism is iffy. then again it's not clear what a good solution. I would say use .b32.i2p links with SSL but jesus is SSL painful to implement

T3s|4 thanks mildseven - I've got a friend who is looking at it seriously

mildseven T3s|4: it's great if you have no obstructions (eg. trees)

mesh mildseven: what sort of latency does startlink give you? do you play any online games?

mildseven it gives me anywhere between 25-50ms

mildseven i play xbox online and it does not disconnect from what i've seen

T3s|4 yep - with any satellite link, a clear line of sight is required

mildseven yep i'm lucky i have no trees around

mildseven they sat can be mounted higher to improve visibility

mildseven there's a kit for it

mildseven from my experience, it doesn't beat fibre but it's damn good for a satellite link

mesh I find 25ms hard to believe but if that's true that's great. that would make starlink competitive with most wired broadband

mildseven it varies mesh

mildseven 25ms is absolute best

mildseven but it will usually be 40-50ms from my experience

mesh nothing beats fiber except internet2

mildseven i'm in a rural area and fibre is not an option unforunately :(

mesh yeah. it's very impressive that starlink latency is <100ms. most satellite internet platforms have latencies of 500+ms

mesh according to techblog.comsoc.org/2020/11/04/pcmag-study-starlink-speed-and-latency-top-satellite-internet-from-hughes-and-viasats-exede starlink gets 42ms, while other satellite systems get 600ms, that's 4g latency. it seems the idea of using much closer satellites really makes a difference

mesh but these satellites only last 3-5 years then new ones have to be launched. it's sort of insane

mesh australia should do what france is doing and commit to 100% fiber penetration no matter the cost

mesh unless you're living completely off grid under a rock somewhere

mesh france will have 100% fiber penetration by 2026. australia will be lucky to have 40%. america will have even less. china will of course have the best and largest fiber network in the world

mesh (more reasons why i2p should really focus on china+asia growth)

mildseven i'm in a housing estate, so really we should have fiber to every house

mesh yeah it's a shame the aussie gov isn't investing more money into fiber

mesh you would think after covid people would all agree on 100% fiber penetration

mildseven is there an image upload service on i2p?

mildseven nvm i used cake.i2p

mildseven cake.i2p/file/MWmohtzfnQ_VncaovDZcqljDRvnlpC5Y1Al0qWKkr_nZHDgZ2JDt/2022-05-11-15-19.png

mildseven there's my speedtest stats for the day

T3s|4 mildeight: those look good - I'll send a copy to my friend

mildeight glad to help

parabo hey guys

parabo dr|z3d

RN aloha. brb...

parabo albat

parabo not_bob

parabo hi RN

albat hi parabo :)

parabo hey albat how are you?

albat fine here u?

parabo Pretty good

parabo Just watching West World

albat ok

dr|z3d waste world!

parabo what are you up to?

parabo shut your pie hole dr|z3d

albat nothing mucj, playing with RS

parabo cool

parabo Irc2PGuest9403, hi

RN :)

albat what's up parabo ?

parabo albat, I am watching Westworld

parabo have you seen it?

albat only 2 or 3 firsts episodes

parabo you didn't like it?

parabo the third episode is where it starts to get good

albat ok

parabo how long have you been in washinton?

albat we'll stay for 3 month

albat been 7 days right now

parabo ahh

parabo how is the baby?

mesh man windows sucks

RN mesh, have you tried turning the box fan around the other way? Windows can also blow!

parabo mesh, which Windows?

mesh ah yes, these are what humans call jokes

mesh one more reason this planet must be reallocated

parabo mesh, I mean which version

mesh parabo: they all suck. it's like asking which version of cancer

mesh though admittedly some are far more terrible than others... win8

parabo Windows 8.1 you could return to normal desktop mode with some config tools

parabo and it could run in 280mb ram

parabo Windows 10 is pretty good if you install third party security and privacy tools

parabo on most devices it uses less power

parabo although that is hardware specific

mesh I'm on win10 still and windows update is basically malware. It silently installs stupid craps, reboots my computer costing me hours of work and real money (I run some automated trading algos in the bg), and more often than not something terrible happens

parabo ahh

parabo I think for portable devices Windows 10 is generally better on battery life

parabo than Linux

mesh Microsoft's "patch tuesday" is nothing more than a pre-announced terrorist attack and I should be able to sue microsoft

parabo you can disable Windows update

parabo or at least pause it for 7 days

parabo just pause it every 7 days for 7 days

mesh parabo: my experiences on linux are even worse frankly. last time I tried to run linux it was a nightmare of never quite getting my wifi to work

mesh parabo: you have to remember to do that each time. there's no way to make windows update opt in

parabo There is

parabo you can disable the Windows Update Orchestrator service

mesh it's frankly ridiculous that microsoft thinks it can do whatever want to my very expensive laptop that I paid thousands of dollars for

parabo and the other services it depends on

mesh parabo: I've looked. Last time I hacked the registry to disable windows update and make it fully opt-in it worked for a couple of months and then at some point microsoft silently "fixed" it

mesh I will have my revenge though

mesh I will in fact have my revenge on all of so-called humanity

dr|z3d when was the last time you tried linux, mesh?

dr|z3d also, did you notice zzz fixed your apache. issue..

mesh last time I tried linux was probably a good 5 years ago... 2016/2017

mesh that's great that he fixed it. that issue was really annoying

dr|z3d that's a huge amount of time.. linux on modern hardware should work without issue.

dr|z3d try a live image first and you can verify shizz works before you commit to a partition.

mesh yeah, in theory liunx should work well on this laptop. that's the only reason I keep buying dell laptops... they have good wifi cards and are supposed to work well with laptop

mesh err work well with linux

dr|z3d for a win10 user, I'd recommend xubuntu.

dr|z3d dell's laptops are pretty well supported in linux, to the point that you can update the firmware from within linux.

mesh dr|z3d: I've heard linux or "Wayland" still has issues with multiple screens

dr|z3d xubuntu is good old X11.

RN mesh, how many screens you got on the laptop?

dr|z3d lol

dr|z3d there I was thinking you were making a joke, there, RN. my bad. you meant attached.

mesh RN: I've got 2... a cheapo but surprisingly decent 30inch lg

RN X11: start build, go buy a car, get tax papers filed, move to another city, compile done! :)

mesh and the primary laptop screen

dr|z3d mesh: xubuntu. you can thank me later.

RN nice. I ran lappy with three screens a one point. alt screens started malfunctioning so down to one external, and lid closed.

mesh what's annoying is that *windows* has trouble with multiple screens. it's quite clear that dell and microsoft and AMD did not work together to make sure that the video card I paid hundreds of dollars of for actually works well with the rest of the laptop and windows

mesh I can't actually use the higher 120hz refresh rate (introduces severe artifacts) and if I play too many videos at once the entire graphics driver is wont to crash

mesh RN: monitors are so cheap these days I buy one every time I move. I won't even be able to take this monitor with me when I leave the country in a few weeks but whatever it was only a little more than $200 I think

RN I'm currently not financially flush, so no medium to large purchases until that changes

RN I could throw and old working CRT on the desk next to the lcd

RN but size!

mesh there was a time not so long ago when a 30inch monitor cost $800. nowadays if you know where to look you can grab them for <$300. they're practically disposable. I'll buy one even if I'm only going to be in the country for ~90 days

mesh (works out to about $3/day)

mesh dr|z3d: xubuntulooks interesting. I'll check out the live image on a usb to see how well it works with my hardware. the only other thing keeping me on windows is the occassional gaming binge (total war, mass effect)

RN dual boot!

RN just know when you want to game, you might have to wait for windows updates if you havent booted win in a couple days ;)

mesh I could do that if I was a nerd

mesh (and my hard drive was bigger than a measely 130gb)

dr|z3d how much free space have you got, mesh?

dr|z3d on your storage?

dr|z3d for easy live image to usb thumb drive, rufus is pretty good.

dr|z3d (on windows)

dr|z3d as for gaming, steam on linux does pretty well these days, you might be surprised how much it runs from windows world.

mesh very little... just 23.3gb free. but I have a lot of crap that I could delete between java development, old games, and amd driver installers (new one downloads every month and makes no attempt to delete the old ones)

dr|z3d well, see how the live xubuntu image works for you first, then maybe you can take a view on whether you want to free up space.

dr|z3d_ > well, see how the live xubuntu image works for you first, then maybe you can take a view on whether you want to free up space.

dr|z3d_ if you've got a large enough thumb drive, you can make the install persistent and install stuff.

dr|z3d in any event, it should run pretty fast, given it's mostly running from a ram disk.

mesh dr|z3d: yeah I have many large usb drives lying around and plenty of ram fortunately

mesh I like the idea of a encrypted thumb drive that could be used to boot into linux

dr|z3d great, mesh, should give you a good experience.

dr|z3d askubuntu.com/questions/1255753/installing-ubuntu-on-a-luks-encrypted-usb-thumb-drive

RN this doesn't surprise me. darkreading.com/edge-articles/threat-actors-are-stealing-data-now-to-decrypt-when-quantum-computing-comes

mesh not sure if that's possible yet, but it would be cool to have a kind of secure computer on a thumb drive

mesh but I don't think it's possible to boot from an encrypted fs yet...

mesh dr|z3d: oh cool. apparently it is possible to boot ubuntu from an encrypted thumb drive as long as you leave an unencrypted boot partition

dr|z3d you don't need to encrypt the boot partition, just your home dir.

RN look at dr's link

mesh that's really cool, even cooler than installing openjdk on termux+android

dr|z3d as a developer, you'll be in a much better space on linux.

dr|z3d say goodbye to manually downloading and installing packages, worrying about whether all your apps are up to date...

dr|z3d and you can kiss goodbye to having to hunt down drivers, too.

dr|z3d if you happen to use VS code for coding, no problem, it's available natively on Linux with full extension support.

mesh there was a time when the disk i/o and threading performance on linux was actually significantly better than windows thanks to work by ibm and redhat

mesh apparently it's gotten better since 2017 though windows is still mostly slower according to phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows2019-linux-bsd&num=7

dr|z3d well, you can do plenty once you've got xubuntu running.. lots of improvements, not least the xanmod kernel.

dr|z3d xanmod.org

dr|z3d there's also this, which I haven't tried: github.com/pop-os/system76-scheduler

mesh xanmod is interesting. but it's a little scary to run a kernel provided by a bunch of randos with a website. I would probaly stick with ubuntu or redhat kernels

dr|z3d never had an issue with it.

mesh it is open source tho, and development is very active according to github.com/xanmod/linux/commits/5.17

mesh I like the idea of a kernel that's tuned for the desktop. this does make much sense than using the same kernel on a monster server with tons of ram that never gets rebooted focused on throughput and a laptop focused on latency

dr|z3d well, exactly.

dr|z3d you can easily switch between kernels at boot time, so nothing lost, everything to gain.

mesh (it's the same thing with i2p. no reason everybody should be running the exact same i2p router config when people are running under very different conditions)

dr|z3d and probably they're not, at the bare minimum when it comes to bandwidth allocation.

dr|z3d the more esoteric configs people run I2P+ for. or not :)

mesh dr|z3d: yeah I'm just not a fan of beta testing stuff these days. my days of geeking out and running the latest and greatest are over. these days I tend to stick with what works and actually avoid updating stuff whenever possible

dr|z3d stick to a stable xanmod branch, then, you'll be fine.

dr|z3d none of it is beta, in any event. it's all pretty well tested before release.

mesh I wonder how these xanmod guys make money. do donations alone really pay for all this work

mesh though stuff like github.com/xanmod/linux/commit/af06f2395f6487404aa5fc8545f2cc25c2da42d4 doesn't inspire confidence hehe... obvious memory leak

mesh anyways it does look cool. I didn't realize there were any desktop-focused kernels besides what ubuntu does

not_bob parabo: I'm alive!

not_bob parabo: But, going afk again.

term99 high, bye

parabo dr|z3d