parabo
itsjustme
dr|z3d
parabo! what up?
parabo
not much dr|z3d
parabo
you?
dr|z3d
you know, the usual :)
itsjustme
Hey parabo!
parabo
what's up itsjustme ?
albat
hey :)
parabo
hi albat
parabo
how are you?
albat
i'm fine
albat
you?
parabo
pretty good thanks
itsjustme
Not to much hbu parabo?
albat
i'm looking for new games to play over steam
albat
any good idle rpg?
dr|z3d
try creaks, albat.
albat
ok thanks
dr|z3d
not an rpg as such, but you'll probably like it.
dr|z3d
demo should be available.
albat
on steam?
dr|z3d
probably
not_bob
Would anyone here be willing to drop a youtube comment for me?
itsjustme
not_bob: what do you mean?
not_bob
Someone found my page and made a youtube video about it.
not_bob
Not so much about it, but it was in the spotlight. I want to correct him.
not_bob
But, I lack a google account to comment with.
mesh
not_bob: unlikely somebody will comment on youtube. you might as well create a throw-away google account
mesh
not_bob: also I think people should be very wary of subscription lists
not_bob
Fair point.
T3s|4
o/ mildseven - glad to learn you're getting impressive speed with Starlink. If you don't mind sharing, how much are paying per month for the service?
mildseven
AUD$150 T3s|4
mesh
then again the whole ".i2p" mechanism is iffy. then again it's not clear what a good solution. I would say use .b32.i2p links with SSL but jesus is SSL painful to implement
T3s|4
thanks mildseven - I've got a friend who is looking at it seriously
mildseven
T3s|4: it's great if you have no obstructions (eg. trees)
mesh
mildseven: what sort of latency does startlink give you? do you play any online games?
mildseven
it gives me anywhere between 25-50ms
mildseven
i play xbox online and it does not disconnect from what i've seen
T3s|4
yep - with any satellite link, a clear line of sight is required
mildseven
yep i'm lucky i have no trees around
mildseven
they sat can be mounted higher to improve visibility
mildseven
there's a kit for it
mildseven
from my experience, it doesn't beat fibre but it's damn good for a satellite link
mesh
I find 25ms hard to believe but if that's true that's great. that would make starlink competitive with most wired broadband
mildseven
it varies mesh
mildseven
25ms is absolute best
mildseven
but it will usually be 40-50ms from my experience
mesh
nothing beats fiber except internet2
mildseven
i'm in a rural area and fibre is not an option unforunately :(
mesh
yeah. it's very impressive that starlink latency is <100ms. most satellite internet platforms have latencies of 500+ms
mesh
according to techblog.comsoc.org/2020/11/04/pcmag-study-starlink-speed-and-latency-top-satellite-internet-from-hughes-and-viasats-exede starlink gets 42ms, while other satellite systems get 600ms, that's 4g latency. it seems the idea of using much closer satellites really makes a difference
mesh
but these satellites only last 3-5 years then new ones have to be launched. it's sort of insane
mesh
australia should do what france is doing and commit to 100% fiber penetration no matter the cost
mesh
unless you're living completely off grid under a rock somewhere
mesh
france will have 100% fiber penetration by 2026. australia will be lucky to have 40%. america will have even less. china will of course have the best and largest fiber network in the world
mesh
(more reasons why i2p should really focus on china+asia growth)
mildseven
i'm in a housing estate, so really we should have fiber to every house
mesh
yeah it's a shame the aussie gov isn't investing more money into fiber
mesh
you would think after covid people would all agree on 100% fiber penetration
mildseven
is there an image upload service on i2p?
mildseven
nvm i used cake.i2p
mildseven
there's my speedtest stats for the day
T3s|4
mildeight: those look good - I'll send a copy to my friend
mildeight
glad to help
parabo
hey guys
parabo
dr|z3d
RN
aloha. brb...
parabo
albat
parabo
not_bob
parabo
hi RN
albat
hi parabo :)
parabo
hey albat how are you?
albat
fine here u?
parabo
Pretty good
parabo
Just watching West World
albat
ok
dr|z3d
waste world!
parabo
what are you up to?
parabo
shut your pie hole dr|z3d
albat
nothing mucj, playing with RS
parabo
cool
parabo
Irc2PGuest9403, hi
RN
:)
albat
what's up parabo ?
parabo
albat, I am watching Westworld
parabo
have you seen it?
albat
only 2 or 3 firsts episodes
parabo
you didn't like it?
parabo
the third episode is where it starts to get good
albat
ok
parabo
how long have you been in washinton?
albat
we'll stay for 3 month
albat
been 7 days right now
parabo
ahh
parabo
how is the baby?
mesh
man windows sucks
RN
mesh, have you tried turning the box fan around the other way? Windows can also blow!
parabo
mesh, which Windows?
mesh
ah yes, these are what humans call jokes
mesh
one more reason this planet must be reallocated
parabo
mesh, I mean which version
mesh
parabo: they all suck. it's like asking which version of cancer
mesh
though admittedly some are far more terrible than others... win8
parabo
Windows 8.1 you could return to normal desktop mode with some config tools
parabo
and it could run in 280mb ram
parabo
Windows 10 is pretty good if you install third party security and privacy tools
parabo
on most devices it uses less power
parabo
although that is hardware specific
mesh
I'm on win10 still and windows update is basically malware. It silently installs stupid craps, reboots my computer costing me hours of work and real money (I run some automated trading algos in the bg), and more often than not something terrible happens
parabo
ahh
parabo
I think for portable devices Windows 10 is generally better on battery life
parabo
than Linux
mesh
Microsoft's "patch tuesday" is nothing more than a pre-announced terrorist attack and I should be able to sue microsoft
parabo
you can disable Windows update
parabo
or at least pause it for 7 days
parabo
just pause it every 7 days for 7 days
mesh
parabo: my experiences on linux are even worse frankly. last time I tried to run linux it was a nightmare of never quite getting my wifi to work
mesh
parabo: you have to remember to do that each time. there's no way to make windows update opt in
parabo
There is
parabo
you can disable the Windows Update Orchestrator service
mesh
it's frankly ridiculous that microsoft thinks it can do whatever want to my very expensive laptop that I paid thousands of dollars for
parabo
and the other services it depends on
mesh
parabo: I've looked. Last time I hacked the registry to disable windows update and make it fully opt-in it worked for a couple of months and then at some point microsoft silently "fixed" it
mesh
I will have my revenge though
mesh
I will in fact have my revenge on all of so-called humanity
dr|z3d
when was the last time you tried linux, mesh?
dr|z3d
also, did you notice zzz fixed your apache. issue..
mesh
last time I tried linux was probably a good 5 years ago... 2016/2017
mesh
that's great that he fixed it. that issue was really annoying
dr|z3d
that's a huge amount of time.. linux on modern hardware should work without issue.
dr|z3d
try a live image first and you can verify shizz works before you commit to a partition.
mesh
yeah, in theory liunx should work well on this laptop. that's the only reason I keep buying dell laptops... they have good wifi cards and are supposed to work well with laptop
mesh
err work well with linux
dr|z3d
for a win10 user, I'd recommend xubuntu.
dr|z3d
dell's laptops are pretty well supported in linux, to the point that you can update the firmware from within linux.
mesh
dr|z3d: I've heard linux or "Wayland" still has issues with multiple screens
dr|z3d
xubuntu is good old X11.
RN
mesh, how many screens you got on the laptop?
dr|z3d
lol
dr|z3d
there I was thinking you were making a joke, there, RN. my bad. you meant attached.
mesh
RN: I've got 2... a cheapo but surprisingly decent 30inch lg
RN
X11: start build, go buy a car, get tax papers filed, move to another city, compile done! :)
mesh
and the primary laptop screen
dr|z3d
mesh: xubuntu. you can thank me later.
RN
nice. I ran lappy with three screens a one point. alt screens started malfunctioning so down to one external, and lid closed.
mesh
what's annoying is that *windows* has trouble with multiple screens. it's quite clear that dell and microsoft and AMD did not work together to make sure that the video card I paid hundreds of dollars of for actually works well with the rest of the laptop and windows
mesh
I can't actually use the higher 120hz refresh rate (introduces severe artifacts) and if I play too many videos at once the entire graphics driver is wont to crash
mesh
RN: monitors are so cheap these days I buy one every time I move. I won't even be able to take this monitor with me when I leave the country in a few weeks but whatever it was only a little more than $200 I think
RN
I'm currently not financially flush, so no medium to large purchases until that changes
RN
I could throw and old working CRT on the desk next to the lcd
RN
but size!
mesh
there was a time not so long ago when a 30inch monitor cost $800. nowadays if you know where to look you can grab them for <$300. they're practically disposable. I'll buy one even if I'm only going to be in the country for ~90 days
mesh
(works out to about $3/day)
mesh
dr|z3d: xubuntulooks interesting. I'll check out the live image on a usb to see how well it works with my hardware. the only other thing keeping me on windows is the occassional gaming binge (total war, mass effect)
RN
dual boot!
RN
just know when you want to game, you might have to wait for windows updates if you havent booted win in a couple days ;)
mesh
I could do that if I was a nerd
mesh
(and my hard drive was bigger than a measely 130gb)
dr|z3d
how much free space have you got, mesh?
dr|z3d
on your storage?
dr|z3d
for easy live image to usb thumb drive, rufus is pretty good.
dr|z3d
(on windows)
dr|z3d
as for gaming, steam on linux does pretty well these days, you might be surprised how much it runs from windows world.
mesh
very little... just 23.3gb free. but I have a lot of crap that I could delete between java development, old games, and amd driver installers (new one downloads every month and makes no attempt to delete the old ones)
dr|z3d
well, see how the live xubuntu image works for you first, then maybe you can take a view on whether you want to free up space.
dr|z3d_
> well, see how the live xubuntu image works for you first, then maybe you can take a view on whether you want to free up space.
dr|z3d_
if you've got a large enough thumb drive, you can make the install persistent and install stuff.
dr|z3d
in any event, it should run pretty fast, given it's mostly running from a ram disk.
mesh
dr|z3d: yeah I have many large usb drives lying around and plenty of ram fortunately
mesh
I like the idea of a encrypted thumb drive that could be used to boot into linux
dr|z3d
great, mesh, should give you a good experience.
RN
this doesn't surprise me. darkreading.com/edge-articles/threat-actors-are-stealing-data-now-to-decrypt-when-quantum-computing-comes
mesh
not sure if that's possible yet, but it would be cool to have a kind of secure computer on a thumb drive
mesh
but I don't think it's possible to boot from an encrypted fs yet...
mesh
dr|z3d: oh cool. apparently it is possible to boot ubuntu from an encrypted thumb drive as long as you leave an unencrypted boot partition
dr|z3d
you don't need to encrypt the boot partition, just your home dir.
RN
look at dr's link
mesh
that's really cool, even cooler than installing openjdk on termux+android
dr|z3d
as a developer, you'll be in a much better space on linux.
dr|z3d
say goodbye to manually downloading and installing packages, worrying about whether all your apps are up to date...
dr|z3d
and you can kiss goodbye to having to hunt down drivers, too.
dr|z3d
if you happen to use VS code for coding, no problem, it's available natively on Linux with full extension support.
mesh
there was a time when the disk i/o and threading performance on linux was actually significantly better than windows thanks to work by ibm and redhat
mesh
apparently it's gotten better since 2017 though windows is still mostly slower according to phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows2019-linux-bsd&num=7
dr|z3d
well, you can do plenty once you've got xubuntu running.. lots of improvements, not least the xanmod kernel.
dr|z3d
there's also this, which I haven't tried: github.com/pop-os/system76-scheduler
mesh
xanmod is interesting. but it's a little scary to run a kernel provided by a bunch of randos with a website. I would probaly stick with ubuntu or redhat kernels
dr|z3d
never had an issue with it.
mesh
it is open source tho, and development is very active according to github.com/xanmod/linux/commits/5.17
mesh
I like the idea of a kernel that's tuned for the desktop. this does make much sense than using the same kernel on a monster server with tons of ram that never gets rebooted focused on throughput and a laptop focused on latency
dr|z3d
well, exactly.
dr|z3d
you can easily switch between kernels at boot time, so nothing lost, everything to gain.
mesh
(it's the same thing with i2p. no reason everybody should be running the exact same i2p router config when people are running under very different conditions)
dr|z3d
and probably they're not, at the bare minimum when it comes to bandwidth allocation.
dr|z3d
the more esoteric configs people run I2P+ for. or not :)
mesh
dr|z3d: yeah I'm just not a fan of beta testing stuff these days. my days of geeking out and running the latest and greatest are over. these days I tend to stick with what works and actually avoid updating stuff whenever possible
dr|z3d
stick to a stable xanmod branch, then, you'll be fine.
dr|z3d
none of it is beta, in any event. it's all pretty well tested before release.
mesh
I wonder how these xanmod guys make money. do donations alone really pay for all this work
mesh
though stuff like github.com/xanmod/linux/commit/af06f2395f6487404aa5fc8545f2cc25c2da42d4 doesn't inspire confidence hehe... obvious memory leak
mesh
anyways it does look cool. I didn't realize there were any desktop-focused kernels besides what ubuntu does
not_bob
parabo: I'm alive!
not_bob
parabo: But, going afk again.
term99
high, bye
parabo
dr|z3d