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zlatinb
Hello again. I know this is offtopic for this channel, but there is some serious shit going on here and echelon is right in the middle of it.
zlatinb
And good thing this channel is logged @ major.i2p
zlatinb
So, if you care enough to get up to speed, logs are here major.i2p/irc2p/i2p-dev/2023/01/18 (towards the bottom)
zlatinb
echelon banned me immediately at the end.
zzz
zlatinb, this isn't appropriate for this channel, please find another
zlatinb
Ok. Friendo?
zlatinb
Where is that ok to talk about?
zzz
that's up to you, I'm only here and in i2p-dev, both are for development
zlatinb
I've known you for 10 years, if you choose to tolerate this nonsense, I'm afraid I can no longer call myself your friend.
zzz
there's also other servers if you don't like the admins on irc2p
zlatinb
I'm already on ilita don't worry.
zzz
for many reasons I let it go, I have to pick my battles, and that wasn't one
zlatinb
Ok. I'm in #dev on ilita. It is logged on to major.i2p. If you have any remains of a spine or a self-respect, and I really hope you do because I LOVE you zzz, please let's go there.
zlatinb
now I shut up.
zzz
I love you too and you will always be my friend
zzz
but I don't have time for further on this right now, either here or in ilita
zlatinb
You cannot image how much you break my heart.
zzz
if your goal is to be somewhere that major is, perhaps discuss adding more channels to major with the major op
zlatinb
No, I'm sorry. It's over zzz.
zlatinb
Have a good life.
dr|z3d
another one to keep an eye on: gf5oj7oQxjkCJ25eg54~WueRpT5odU9AduBaGxI2~qI= N class, no ip address, no introducers, medium request tariff.
orignal
zzz, is it true that JavaI2P http proxy changes destination every 10 minutes?
zzz
orignal, no
orignal
dr|z3d are you sure it doesn't contain an yggdrasil address from example?
orignal
somebody asked dumb question at 333
orignal
I thought I missed something
zzz
if configured for close-on-idle and new-dest-on-resume, it will do that on resume, but that's not the default setting
zzz
and we don't ever change destination on an open tunnel
orignal
got it
orignal
will respond hime
zzz
:)
orignal
probably he has got it from kislitsa ))
eyedeekay
orignal in the Easy-Install for Windows I take the HTTP Proxy out of the shared tunnel group(so it has it's own destination), configure new keys on re-opening, and set it to have an idle timeout of 10 minutes.
eyedeekay
That's might be where a misconception arose
eyedeekay
After 10 minutes, the tunnel is closed until it's needed again
orignal
and detination gets destroyed?
eyedeekay
i2cp.closeOnIdle=true
eyedeekay
Yes
orignal
and new one will be created in 4444?
eyedeekay
Yes
orignal
so 10 minutes no activity, destroy, the create new one upon request
orignal
will add
eyedeekay
Exactly, the idea is to avoid allowing the destination to link a user across browsing sessions
orignal
thanks. didn't know about this option
orignal
is it for any client tunnel?
eyedeekay
I think it's actually one of the ones that isn't a real an i2cp option but actually is an i2ptunnel option, is that correct zzz? or is that just i2cp.newDestOnResume=true
eyedeekay
You would approximate it with SAMv3 by using a transient tunnel, and closing and re-opening after 10 minutes without a request
eyedeekay
The three I change in the HTTP proxy(only) are:
eyedeekay
i2cp.closeIdleTime=100000
eyedeekay
i2cp.closeOnIdle=true
eyedeekay
i2cp.newDestOnResume=true
zzz
orignal, that's what this guy is asking for: github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues/1831
orignal
got it
orignal
didn't know what he was talking about
zzz
specs are linked in there
orignal
now I know
zzz
our defaults in i2ptunnel are:
zzz
tunnel.0.option.i2cp.reduceIdleTime=900000
zzz
tunnel.0.option.i2cp.reduceOnIdle=true
zzz
tunnel.0.option.i2cp.reduceQuantity=1
zzz
we don't close-on-idle by default because it's more lag for the user
orignal
what does "reduce" stand for?
zzz
reduce quantity on idle
orignal
to 1 or by 1?
zzz
so like you go down to 1 tunnel after 10 minutes, then close the tunnel after 30 minutes
zzz
I think it's to 1
orignal
but that guys is asking about new destination
orignal
it's definitly close-on-idle
zzz
new dest requires close-on-idle enabled
orignal
yes, that's what he is asking about
zzz
it's a nice package of options to reduce load on the network
orignal
agree
zzz
I remember having trouble getting it all right back in 2009, but maybe I'm smarter now, and I'm sure you are :)
zzz
even just delay-open by itself can really help things at startup
dr|z3d
if it contains a ygg address, it ain't showing, orignal
orignal
yes because zzz consider them invalid
zzz
no, we don't ban ygg routers
orignal
no, I mean you exclude ygg addresses
orignal
and dr|z3d don't see them
orignal
*doesn'
zzz
no we don't
orignal
t
zzz
and it would break the signature if we did
orignal
I mean after parsing
orignal
I think it doesn't appear in the list of addresses
zzz
nope, you will see it in the UI, in the logs, everywhere
orignal
then I was wrong
zzz
Router: 0AKmSl799nd4gaJM~3B4Hp0yr6Q9vbsCUeciMcvDxZA=FI [Full entry]
zzz
Published:23 min ago
zzz
Addresses:NTCP2: cost: 3 host: 201:8cb8:4184:9750:6cc2:f0e0:e02b:ba89 i: YBLqsiMambYUtY1GUVQ0QQ== port: 20235 s: ~oWX91wQUlYLUzlian9vjbJFosRe1cTHEgP52es7C08= v: 2
orignal
hmmm why cost 3
orignal
might have to change it
zzz
underneath, java i2p client-side I2CP sends ReconfigureSessionMessage for reduce-on-idle
orignal
yes I know we handle it
zzz
right. these are all client-side options, the router side doesn't know about any of them
orignal
but for I2CP only
orignal
we need to handle these options in tunnels
zzz
yes
dr|z3d
yeah, I don't know what's going on with routers with no published addresses and no introducers, but it seems wrong.
zzz
hidden or starting up or can't get anybody to offer
orignal
you mean just no addresees or without IP?
orignal
no they still must publish s key
orignal
if no addresses it's very wrong
dr|z3d
here's what I've got for the aforementioned hash:
dr|z3d
NTCP2 caps: 4 s: Ad6qFroQQsZQllzNJjMtQ69o~2qJnC5r3pD6z18bOCI= v: 2 SSU caps: 4 i: xLdeEtjcofZ~yRZ1KrnTszpE8orxdtya01-b-JSw1Eo= s: Vt0HCLpHOOKhpy3-AB08-SYbUcVXROt6c-QofVwaZS0= v: 2
dr|z3d
note the total absence of ip addresses, introducers or otherwise.
orignal
ok. so you do have addresses
orignal
then what's wrong ?
dr|z3d
no ip addresses, that's not normal.
orignal
wut? ))))
orignal
good morning
orignal
IP addresses are not published at least last 5 years
dr|z3d
ordinarily I'd expect to see either ip addresses or introducer ip addresses.
orignal
if your status is not OK
dr|z3d
(and mostly I do)
orignal
what would you say if you see NTCP2 only?
orignal
I can clearly say what's this
orignal
proxy
dr|z3d
the above hash is both NTCP2 and SSU2.
dr|z3d
apparently an i2p router, not i2pd.
orignal
so you question is why SSU2 address doesn't publish IP address or introducer?
orignal
for example I have "published" option
zzz
<zzz> hidden or starting up or can't get anybody to offer
dr|z3d
yeah, but in that event it should be temp banned, no?
zzz
only if we tried to connect to it
zzz
if he connected to us, it's all good
dr|z3d
hmm, ok.
dr|z3d
still smells dodgy to me.
zzz
don't try to purge your netdb of everything smelly, it's counterproductive, that's not how it's designed
dr|z3d
I'm not.
dr|z3d
I'm just observing weirdness.
dr|z3d
as a general guide, I'm looking to keep unreachable peers at max 20% of total netdb, and L tier routers < X tier routers. on that basis, everything appears to be working as intended.
dr|z3d
re cancel input, that's probably not what you want.
dr|z3d
I'd suggest you want a link to the url + query - search param instead.
zzz
snark? back to the other channel
dr|z3d
or just /i2psnark
dr|z3d
oh, my bad, sorry.
zzz
no sorry required :)
zzz
as sponge would say, nobody died
dr|z3d
:)
Xeha
sponge... sad he left
RN
miss sponge. that aggravating M***** F*****!