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                        orignal
                    
                    
                        zzz, what do you think about SSU2 address cap mentioning symmetric NAT?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        it would help to build U-U-U tunnels
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        orignal, discussed April 11; awaiting proposal
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        and what did we agree?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        don't know if we did, but read the backlog
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I suspect I lost it
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        its been on my list for 6 months  stats.i2p/docs/roadmap-2.8-zzz.html 
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I reeber it was only an idea without any discussion
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        then read major
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        sec
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I remeber it was  discussion about symemtric NAT
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        than two U routers can't connect each others if both are behind symmetric NAT
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but don't reeber discussion about caps
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        "Published G cap if symmetric natted, in 2.5.2"
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        You do it now?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yes, as stated
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        hwo come I hear it for the first time? ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        what is "moddle hop cap"?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        oh yes I remeber what's that
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but should be called "only middle hop cap"
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        for routers with limited connectivity
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        btw setting G for symmetric NAT is not the best idea
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        because it might be first hop
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I believe that's what I said I would do, but I don't remember specifically. 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        check the backlog
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        it may have been temporary until you wrote a proposal?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        did you have a chance to look at relay reponse resends?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        maybe
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        what about relay resposne?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        1. they are no akced
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        does Bob forward resend from chahlie to alice?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        looks like your charlie resends hole punch and relay response together
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I assumed that your fix solved all the problems. I'll put it on my list, will take a while
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        no
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        we have an issue with introducers
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        Chralie received relay intro
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        sends relay response
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        never gets Ack back
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        and believe that this session is dead
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        as reasult we don't resend relay reponse from charlie now
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok, I'll put it on the list
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        because sessions die
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        for 6 relay reponses what data do you need from em?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I'll research and get back to you
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        thanks
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        so far I only see retx as charlie when bob is i2pd 0.9.63
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        10/26 10:15:46.733 INFO  [ handler 1/1] nsport.udp.IntroductionManager: Send relay response 0 as charlie  nonce xxx to bob 185.82.217.48:14412 q-8YF0 OB2 
                     
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        10/26 10:15:46.956 INFO  [ handler 1/1] nsport.udp.IntroductionManager: Send relay response 68 as charlie  nonce xxx to bob 185.82.217.48:14412 q-8YF0 OB2
                     
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        10/26 10:15:47.420 INFO  [ handler 1/1] nsport.udp.IntroductionManager: Send relay response 68 as charlie  nonce xxx to bob 185.82.217.48:14412 q-8YF0 OB2
                     
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        10/26 10:15:48.129 INFO  [ handler 1/1] nsport.udp.IntroductionManager: Send relay response 68 as charlie  nonce xxx to bob 185.82.217.48:14412 q-8YF0 OB2
                     
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        note that first time is 0, the rest are 68 (because the relay was successful and we connected to alice)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        and I am sending acks
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        actually sending twice, because I send the relay response, which includes the ack, and a separate ack shortly after, so I can remove the 2nd one
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        that's fine because Bob didn't send ack in previous releases
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but I'm asking about Alice
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        so, you are Charlie sending relay reponse and keep resending because bob don't ack
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        ?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes, it's known issue and it's fixed
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        the problem I see when you are Bob and I'm Alice and keep receiving RelayResponses even if I send Ack
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no, as charlie I keep getting relay intros from bob
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but from older versions
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        when i2pd 0.9.63 is bob
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        wait
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        so you think I have a bug as alice or bob or charlie? I'm confused again
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        you don't get acks to you relay reponses or you get resends of relay intro?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        as bob
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        bob keeps sending relay responses to alice even if they are acked
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I'm  testing as charlie right now, and not seeing anything wrong
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I get resends of relay intro from bob, as charlie, if bob is i2pd 0.9.63
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I can switch and test as bob later
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        do you get acks to relay reponses from Java Bob?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        sorry acks to relay reposnses
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I'm going to test this minor tweak for charlie, then test bob later
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        eyedeekay, you said bundle is done but not on website, nor is 2.6.1. still on 2.6.0. 2.6.1 blog is still drafted, no 2.7.0 blog in sight. Is your release process broken?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        thanks. will test again
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Necessary changed to i2p.www were pushed to the wrong remote, download page has been corrected as has that part of the release process. Blog still pending.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        thanks eyedeekay