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                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        I'm not sure I see the point, is there a problem with reseeding that quic enables us to solve?
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        I can't think of any, but I'm open to ideas
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        In terms of reseed-tools it's about a 12-20LOC change to support, maybe less, I already know where it goes if we want it
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        more problems than solutions.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        the main one being lack of quic support in java i2p.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        the proint is that in some bantustans quic might work but regular tls not
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        if the hosts are blocked, protocol is irrelavant.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        new tunnel bandwidth proposal:  i2p-projekt.i2p/spec/proposals/168 
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        looks good, zzz
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        how will tunnels calculate min and requested b/w?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        from the requesting client I mean..
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        e.g. I'm browsing a video site on the network, how will my client tunnel set the requirements?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        up to the implementation ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        that sounds complicated
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        not necessarily
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        presumably the simplest way to set requirements is at the tunnel level, globally per tunnel, though that's a fairly inefficient way to determine what's actually needed.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        just take the avg or max of current tunnels in the pool, done and done
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        but you can make it as complicated as you want, up to the implementation
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ok, will be interesting to see how that works in practice.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        is there scope for requesting / indicating latency?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I might not care so much about available bandwidth, but I might care more about latency.. maybe there are routers out there with less capacity, but lower latency, so having latency in the mix might spread the traffic better?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        there's scope for anything, but latency usually is what it is, unless you're going to assign a higher priority to certain tunnels
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ok, just a thought.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        there should be room in the build request to send some bitcoin to the hop for better service, if you'd like to write that up ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        haha
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        behave :P
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        not a new idea, that's what meeh wanted to do with anoncoin, and that's one reason we have a big space for arbitrary options in the new build messages
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        a boolean value passed to the router might be a useful compromise, with, as you say, some routing priority. either a tunnel wants low-latency, or it doesn't.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        add a limiter on both ends so the requesting router can only make x requests / period, and the receiving router will only accept x requests / period for low latency tunnels, and it might be viable.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I still don't understand why do we need to limit tunnel bandwidth
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        bandwidth has always been limited. you just don't know what the limit is.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I mean per tunnel
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        the proposal does not specify or require any particular limiting at all
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yesterday you requested "notification", this is my response
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        let me check
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        what about a low-latency option in build and reply, orignal? what do you think?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I'm thinking you can have either request bandwidth or low-latency, not both.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        and maybe a global low-latency tunnel cap on the router.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        updated proposal based on comments, mostly in 'implementation notes' section
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        > conbination
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        (Security Analysis section)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        thx
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        np
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        didn't know Kurt Opsahl went from EFF to Filecoin. Marcia Hoffman is on their board also
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        guess we don't need to suck up to him at conferences any more ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        holy shit Filecoin has a $58 million dollar budget. No wonder everybody is going there.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        they must hand out grants like candy. They gave Freenet $75K for a rust version
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        freenet!
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        surprised that still exists.