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last call for translations
orignal
when do you satrt releasing?
zzz
eyedeekay's schedule is on i2pforum.i2p, I believe Friday
orignal
thanks
orignal
whould be nice to anounce it on zzz.i2p
zzz
I don't do the releases. Also, he told me he negotiated the date with you, so seems like you should know it ))
orignal
I forgot ))
zzz
eyedeekay, heads up, new java release tomorrow
zzz
eyedeekay, translations are pulled/checked/pushed. I also did android
zzz
eyedeekay, I don't see any newsxml entry yet, please get that going and let me know when I can push it to tx
zzz
I also updated the tor blocklist
eyedeekay
Thanks zzz I have a draft of newsxml local here I'll finish it up and push it today
eyedeekay
Thanks everyone else as well, today is of course the checkin deadline, review period of ~4 days ending the 19th
zzz
eyedeekay, ok, let me know so I can announce it over there
eyedeekay
Can do
zzz
eyedeekay, heads up, new java release tomorrow
eyedeekay
Anyone who wants to review it change-by-change I find `git log --stat -p .` quite useful
eyedeekay
Thanks zzz
dr|z3d
about the tor blocklist.. given how frequently it changes, exit node churn, it might be worth considering an in-console mechanism to update it more frequently than once every 3 months.
zzz
was thinking about that
dr|z3d
I update it almost every time I push to git.
dr|z3d
not a single day flies by without changes, it's that volatile.
zzz
the right thing to do would be pull the list every day for two weeks before our release, then merge them all together
dr|z3d
merge them all together?
dr|z3d
not sure I understand.
zzz
so if it was on the list any time in the last two weeks, we put it on our list
dr|z3d
nah, that's not the right way to do it.
zzz
e.g.:
zzz
185.220.101.128
zzz
185.220.101.130
zzz
185.220.101.132-185.220.101.139
zzz
185.220.101.141-185.220.101.147
zzz
185.220.101.149-185.220.101.150
zzz
185.220.101.152-185.220.101.159
zzz
185.220.101.161-185.220.101.164
dr|z3d
whatever's current is current, adding the last two weeks worth of ips will get you a lot of crud.
zzz
185.220.101.166-185.220.101.171
zzz
185.220.101.174-185.220.101.183
zzz
185.220.101.185-185.220.101.191
zzz
obviously we should be filling in the gaps 128-191
dr|z3d
except quite often you'll see ips change in a range, not necessarily increased, just varied.
zzz
it's not crud, it's noisy data, to smooth it out we need to do sampling/combining
dr|z3d
if by noisy you mean stale, that's what I mean by crud :)
zzz
I don't think the noise is real, I think that tor isn't doing the 'any time in last 24 hours' filtering right
dr|z3d
possible, dunno.
dr|z3d
I just figured there's a lot of churn, and ideally we don't want to be blocking ips that are no longer exits.
dr|z3d
otoh, we *do* want to be blocking ips that are exits as much as we can, otherwise it's fairly easy to bypass Tor blocking by choosing exits not blocked.
zzz
see example above. the gaps are obviously probable exits also
zzz
you can't fix noisy data by trying to keep up with it
zzz
and nobody's building plus from source and restarting every day, you're wasting your time
zzz
you want to fetch the list once a day and save it
dr|z3d
not at all. plenty of folk are pulling in-console dev updates.
dr|z3d
so no time wasted :)
zzz
then once a week, cat (last 14 days of saved lists) | sort | uniq | maketorblocklsit
zzz
you want to _smooth_ the data, not keep up with it
dr|z3d
not convinced that's worth the effort. I'm also not convinced the data needs smoothing, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
zzz
the noise/crud is your hypothesis
zzz
if you want a daily update for your users, convert it to a feed; a button on the console is silly
dr|z3d
sure, ideally you don't want manual intervention, but ideally you also don't want to be compiling the list daily yourself, you just want the console to automatically update from source.
dr|z3d
(or a mirrored copy of the list that's hosted on the network, whatever)
zzz
so if you want to add value for your users, set up your own feed for it, update it every day, and add that in the update subsystem
dr|z3d
ok, might be the way to go. and subscription lists are added to the blocklist immediately, or after a restart?
zzz
news feed blocklist is processed immediately
dr|z3d
ok, thx
zzz
but the feed blocklist doesn't handle ranges or subnets
zzz
so it would take some work to add a 2nd blocklist to the feed, or implement a new feed type, or handle ranges
dr|z3d
well, we've now got a script to consolidate ips into ranges, so support for ranges in the news feed might be worth thinking about.
zzz
that's a security thing so nobody including me can accidentally or on purpose ban everything and destroy the network
zzz
imho tor exits is a minor threat, the current solution that's probably 95% effective on day one and 80% 3 months later is good enough
dr|z3d
ok
zzz
seems like you're more concerned about it which is fine, but just checking in a new list every day probably doesn't help your user base that much
dr|z3d
like I said, for those regularly updating via dev builds, it helps, for those not, sure, nothing doing.
dr|z3d
no real effort to update the list and push to git, anyways, I've got the updater as an ant task.
dr|z3d
that'll be T3s|4 updating to the latest dev build ^ :)
zzz
ok everybody, 10705 lines of diff, please review carefully, let's not have to do a 2.6.1 (((
zzz
pretty typical diff size, but over half is SSU1 removal; the rest is pretty small, shouldn't be tough to review
zzz
eyedeekay, please close gitlab #473 (wizard) if you fixed it, our process is fixer-closes
zzz
also, probably, #411, #414, #405. maybe more
zzz
eyedeekay, the snark rpc plugin should be easier than you described on reddit, just install the plugin, point the "arr" to port 7657, done and done
eyedeekay
Ack can do, 473 is fixed, will check the others
zzz
thx :)
zzz
translation report MR #207 is up
zzz
eyedeekay, I assume we'll be doing a couple of shorter 10-11 week cycles to get two more releases out before christmas?
zzz
SVG graphs (aka puker) MR #208 is up
dr|z3d
Remember that conversation we had where you said you weren't going to be drawn down the SVG rabbithole, zzz? You done good :)
dr|z3d
and speaking of puker, I had a thought re qrcodes.
dr|z3d
instead of attempting to render everything as svg, why not take the bitmap, embed it in an svg, and handle the optional text with svg - gives you more control of margins, text placement etc.
zzz
yes I documented how I changed my mind in the plan in MR 206
dr|z3d
not knocking your change of heart, it's a good call. users will appreciate the upgrade in image quality I'm sure.
dr|z3d
also, puker, impressively compact. would be surprised if Mr rrd4j doesn't merge it tbh.
dr|z3d
using it for qrcodes would give you an excuse to handle bitmap embedding.
dr|z3d
excuse/motivation
zzz
re: bitmap-in-svg, doable, but probably worst of both worlds
dr|z3d
mostly yes, sometimes no. for qrcodes, would give us crisper text, optional css, and better qrcode placement. maybe it's worth the effort, maybe not?
zzz
not by me, but knock yourself out
zzz
eyedeekay, the CI (in particular the gradle build) has been broken since your checkin git.idk.i2p/i2p-hackers/i2p.i2p/-/commit/bd1f4c9f6a896d934378aad5216d8ba6bc1857f8 June 27; would you please investigate and fix