#i2p-dev (irc2p) | 2.7.0-2 | Proposal 168 review Tues. Dec. 3, 8 PM UTC #ls2

dr|z3d ok, zzz, noted.

dr|z3d tunnel.rejectHostile, zzz, what's the stat measuring?

dr|z3d OK, got it, I think. A bunch of different events.

dr|z3d It appears there are a bunch of hostile requests at the same time as the b/w spikes.

mesh I have to wonder, has anybody else noticed spontaneous reboots with i2p?

dr|z3d check for the presence of the line "wrapper.check.deadlock.action=DUMP,RESTART" in your wrapper.config file, assuming you're running via wrapper.

mesh dr|z3d: I don't see anything like that

dr|z3d also, check your wrapper.log file(s) .. java can sometimes explode.

mesh but when I go to localhost:{port}/events?from=7776000 it tells me that the router crashed

mesh and then I have to wonder is it windows crashing that brings dow i2p or is it i2p crashing that brings down windows

dr|z3d speculate all you like, but if you want something more indicative, wrapper.log

mesh dr|z3d: nothing in the logs that really points to anything strange except for the "Router crashed" in the events log

dr|z3d are you running via the wrapper?

mesh wrapper.log shows that there was a Graceful Restart not too long ago. For some reason those messages show up as "CRIT"

mesh everything else looks normal

mesh but I dunno, this is officially weird. It seems to me that something goes wrong with i2p when I leave my router up for a long time.

dr|z3d if you spontaneously crashed, then the wrapper.log will indicate why. if you're set to auto-update, your router will spontaneously restart. not really isn't an answer. either you are, and your wrapper.log is up to date, or you're not and it's stale.

mesh before this most recent crash I had the router running for 4 days. Before that the router exploded after 11 days. Of course on my linux floodfill server i2p was running fine for 275 days

mesh wrapper.log doesn't even contain messages from today, december 14. Instead it just shows the router doing a "Graceful restart" on 12/09

dr|z3d you may have several wrapper.log files, check the timestamps for the most recent.

mesh nothing in wrapper.log that might explain why i2p and then windows would crash and restart

mesh when I look aat the Windows logs in "Event Viewer" it's full of errors about the Alienware Command Center

dr|z3d if windows crashed, that's something entirely different.

dr|z3d and not something we troubleshoot here.

mesh dr|z3d: yeah, but like I said before, the pattern seems to be: (1) run i2p for long periods of time (4-11 days) (2) eventually i2p and windows blows up

mesh I mean I can't say for sure the problem is i2p but this doesn't happen when I don't run i2p. Ugh. Who knows. Maybe the problem is all the torrents

dr|z3d too many variables to provide any kind of support. I can only suggest making sure your java is up to date, not 1.8 Oracle but whatever MS is offering OpenJDK-wise.

dr|z3d and if your Alienware Command Center is causing issues, disable or uninstall it.

dr|z3d increase maxmem if you think that's problematic.

mesh yeah I'm using Jdk18 which is the latest stable. I probably should upgrade the AWCC. The "My Dell" program keeps telling me to upgrade it but frankly I'm scared

mesh (I wouldn't be surprised if the real underlying problem is Dell. It's fucking awful. Very clear that no real effort was made to really work out the bugs. Dell just stuffs the latest components into a box and hopes it work. I'm afraid to upgrade the box once I have things working)

mesh very likely I will go back to asus or samsung next year. I feel like those were a lot more reliable than Dell. I had a samsung laptop that was bulletproof for ~5 years. According to c4re.gr/lenovo-vs-dell-vs-hp-vs-asus samsung is actually almost as reliable as apple

dr|z3d just do yourself a favor, get a live xubuntu install on usb, partition the disk so windows can still run, and then install xubuntu on the newly created partition. it'll feel like a new laptop.

mesh I might seriously consider it. At this point, if Amazon music and amazon kindle work on linux, the only app keeping windows around is steam

mesh though steam is more like a virus these days. the other day I ran into this problem: reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/jcux10/steamclient_webhelper_big_high_ram_usage/. steam webhelper consumed all available memory. 32gb of ram down the drain and then windows became completely unstable. no warning whatsoever

mesh frankly I'm disappointed how bad dell is. it seems to me dell made the leap to amd ryzen/radeon and released a bunch of products that werenot well tested at all

mesh at lease this year they managed to fix the dell-ryzen stuttering problem: dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/AMD-s-Bugfix-for-Ryzen-Stuttering-Now-Widely-Available/m-p/8218403

mesh apparently vim doesn't do real periodical savings unless auto-backup is turned on?

dr|z3d it's at this point I should remind you that this is a dev channel, not a dell support channel :)

mesh yeah, it's just very difficult to diagnose the issues. On the one hand it seems like the system is much less stable when i2p+i2psnark are running. On the other hand there are def issues not related to i2p with this machine.

mesh another variable here is ZGC. I've been using ZGC because it definitely gives the best performance with i2p. Much better than the default g1. But ZGC has caused issues in the past, even crashing eclipse

mesh can't believe vim didn't autosave anything. Lost a good 30 minutes of work. Will need to investigate vim autosave and possibly vim autobackup

eyedeekay Hello everyone, welcome to the rescheduled dev meeting

eyedeekay 1. Hi

eyedeekay 2. 2.0.0 Release Status, 2.0.0 Mac Release Status

eyedeekay 3. 2.1.0 Development Status

eyedeekay 4. Stickers for Translators

zzz hi

zzz ping eche|on eche|sleep

eyedeekay Doesn't seem like he's here? going to move along for now.

eyedeekay 2. 2.0.0 release status: *most* targets of 2.0.0 were released about 3 weeks ago now, including i2p.i2p, Android, Debian and Easy-Install Windows, with Easy-Install for Mac delayed by zlatinb's departure

eyedeekay Ech and I have been working on a plan to replace him in terms of maintenance, signing, and notarization of the OSX bundle, that is still expected for close to the end of this month

eyedeekay Everybody knows how to build everything, has a good idea of the signing requirements, the last remaining thing to do is notarization in practice, and we don't know everything we should expect here but I think we have a good idea

eyedeekay Android needed a point release due to a bug related to compatibility with a new API on newer devices, so Android users should make sure they've upgraded to 2.0.1

eyedeekay eot for me on 2, anything to add zzz

zzz lots

zzz I had to release a 2.0.0-2ubunutu1 debian/ubuntu build to fix an embarrassing but ultimately harmless bunch of stray symlinks in root

zzz root cause was a typo, deb lint didn't catch it, not sure what the post mortem lesson is other than be more careful, we're root on install...

zzz as far as the network, after 3 weeks, half of it has updated and is using ssu2

zzz exploratory build success has been trending straight down since the release

zzz we're concerned, and monitoring closely

zzz at this point we think it's some combination of ssu-to-ssu2 migration, ssu2 bugs on both our side and in i2pd, and a couple of routers that are spamming the network with tunnel builds

zzz i2pd is considering a mid-cycle january point release to get their fixes out

zzz for now I don't think that's necessary on our side but it's always an option should we choose to

zzz I think that's EOT but I'll have more info in a moment as a part of 3)

eyedeekay Thank you zzz

eyedeekay 3. 2.1.0 Development Status

eyedeekay We're 3 weeks in to this cycle, in this time I've been working on getting Android migrated fully over to the modern gradle plugin, I stopped short of migrating from maven to maven-push before release, after that, what's on the list for Android is orbot-style split tunneling for configuring apps without a proxy(Sort of the Android version of torsocks)

eyedeekay For desktop I've been working on getting our integration into Whonix fixed and have been work related to getting the Easy-Install for Windows out of beta

eyedeekay That's what I'm working on, zzz would you like to continue with your information or 3)?

dr|z3d Blinded message

eyedeekay I feel like I should tell a joke or something lol

zzz back

zzz is it my turn yet? :)

dr|z3d you need to put on an apron and wheel the confectionery tray around the theater :)

dr|z3d did you go out to get us all ice cream? :)

dr|z3d recap:

dr|z3d <eyedeekay> We're 3 weeks in to this cycle, in this time I've been working on getting Android migrated fully over to the modern gradle plugin, I stopped short of migrating from maven to maven-push before release, after that, what's on the list for Android is orbot-style split tunneling for configuring apps without a proxy(Sort of the Android version of torsocks)

dr|z3d <eyedeekay> For desktop I've been working on getting our integration into Whonix fixed and have been work related to getting the Easy-Install for Windows out of beta

dr|z3d <eyedeekay> That's what I'm working on, zzz would you like to continue with your information or 3)?

eyedeekay Welcome back

eyedeekay What was the last thing you got?

zzz thanks

zzz drz gave it to me

zzz ok, my turn!

zzz about a week and a half after the release, when a lot of the net had updated, I started chasing SSU2 problems

zzz and found a whole lot

zzz both ours and helped i2pd find some of theirs

zzz so it's been quite busy

zzz as a result, we're at almost 7000 lines of diff, more than the whole 2.0.0 release

zzz and whatever else I had planned for 2.1.0 I haven't gotten to yet, including promised peer selection improvements

zzz I plan to bump to -7 after the meeting

zzz while the "big changes in" deadline is early January, let's stay flexible, as we don't want a bunch of WIP in there if we're going to do a 2.0.1 release

zzz so let's try not to break things with "big changes" if possible. Big changes are fine, as long as they're isolated

zzz but things are going well and we're working closely with i2pd to track down and fix issues

zzz including one-in-a-million ones that are now popping up

zzz and one-in-a-zillion ones that dr|z3d is finding on his high speed routers

zzz that's it! EOT, any questions?

eyedeekay I'm slightly curious how often a "Million" of some things happens in in the real world but possibly a question for another time

eyedeekay Thanks zzz

eyedeekay It seems like once you get a whole bunch of routers doing a thing the odds of a rare event happening somewhere would go up very fast

zzz yeah. perhaps we should have been more cautious, and not go from 2% to 100% in one release. But we'll get through it

eyedeekay 4. Stickers for Translators

eyedeekay Only real news here is that I now have stickers for mailing, I've got a ton of them so if you're in the Americas then I am prepared to mail them

zzz would you please post something on my forum, saying who is eligible and how to request

eyedeekay Can do

zzz then I will copy paste over to transifex announcement

zzz what's the status of the euro side?

eyedeekay Don't know if he has his yet, will request an update from him tonight

zzz ok, guess I need to wait for that part of it before transifex

zzz please whack him with your baffer for making us reschedule and then not showing :)

eyedeekay Well it was my fault too but I'll make sure to let him know :)

zzz I mean yesterday to today. you're not off the hook for last week :)

eyedeekay That's all I've got for 4 and/or today, anything else for the meeting?

zzz nope

zzz are we on or off for Jan. 3?

eyedeekay All right then thanks zzz for coming, I was going to say "On" for Jan 3 but we could do the 10th instead since IIRC LS2 will be the 9th

zzz doesn't matter, your call

eyedeekay Let's have it on the 9th in January and return to first-Tuesday in February

zzz you mean 10th?

eyedeekay Yes the 10th

zzz ok

zzz meeting over?

eyedeekay Yes

zzz ok one more thing not for the logs

zzz I think I gotta add the two routers to our news feed list

zzz I need to try to separate out the effects from any ssu2 issues

zzz so dr|z3d obscuratus eyedeekay you agree? and eyedeekay you around tomorrow to push buttons?

dr|z3d already added those to the blocklist here, if we're talking about tweedle spam a + b.

zzz yup

eyedeekay Yeah I can push buttons tomorrow

eyedeekay Might need to do it in the evening but you check them in and I'll make sure the news gets updated

dr|z3d so, yeah, sure. anything that looks like it's an ongoing exercise in network tomfoolery will always get my vote.

zzz ok unless I change my mind I'll do it tomorrow and let you know

eyedeekay OK I'll be ready

dr|z3d one of them was LU, so I don't think we'll be missing it :)

zzz eyedeekay, did you ever test tx push like we talked about the other day?

obscuratus Sure, but they might just re-key their router later. Long term, I'm counting on the throttler.

zzz right

eyedeekay I tried but did not manage to get it to work

zzz ok so would you like me to push your last three years of changes? :)

eyedeekay Yes please

zzz will do, no use waiting until I get my MR in for the stats section

dr|z3d speaking of push, your .7 commits large or small, zzz?

zzz most of it went in just before the meeting, not much left

dr|z3d ah, ok, never noticed, thanks.