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dr|z3d
zzz: I thought you'd fixed this, or something similar:
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ERROR […iter 330764] …ConnectionRunner: Error sending I2CP message to client
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net.i2p.data.i2cp.I2CPMessageException: Unable to write out the message, as the session ID has not been defined
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at net.i2p.data.i2cp.MessagePayloadMessage.writeMessage(MessagePayloadMessage.java:129)
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at net.i2p.router.client.ClientConnectionRunner.writeMessage(ClientConnectionRunner.java:1067)
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at net.i2p.router.client.ClientWriterRunner.run(ClientWriterRunner.java:70)
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at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833)
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at net.i2p.util.I2PThread.run(I2PThread.java:103)
zzz
dr|z3d, yes I did :(
zzz
stand by for -13
dr|z3d
picking up the pace, zzz..
zzz
unfortunately the pace was backwards
eyedeekay
Meeting in an hour in case anybody else has to look up daylight savings time every time
mesh
eyedeekay: the meeting happens here?
eyedeekay
Yes
eyedeekay
I'm just doing my meeting prep, making some notes and such
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Hi everyone welcome to the April dev meeting, agenda for today:
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1. Hi
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2. Release Status (1.7.0 / 0.9.53)
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3. Development Status (1.8.0 / 0.9.54)
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4. JNA in easy-install bundles, what doors does it open?
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1. Hi
zlatinb
hi
zzz
hi
eyedeekay
Hi zlatinb, hi zzz
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Anybody else here today?
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2. Release Status (1.7.0 / 0.9.53)
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1.7.0 has been out for about 6 weeks now, updates from last month for me are that all the Android packages are successfully deployed and the bug that was discovered at release time is now fixed
eyedeekay
As usual, the packages in Debian's main repositories haven't seen an update, if you're still using them please switch to deb.i2p2.de/.no as soon as possible
zzz
re: Debian, I did find a volunteer to get 0.9.48 fixed and reinstated into Sid. that's done
zzz
whether it will automatically trickle back into bullseye and ubuntu, no idea
zzz
still no luck finding a new maintainer
zzz
eot
eyedeekay
Thanks
eyedeekay
I have one more, this overlaps 2 and 3 and 4 actually but Easy-install bundles for Windows will still require one more manual update
zzz
have you made progress since last meeting?
eyedeekay
Considerable yes
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Most of it is part of this MR, : i2pgit.org/i2p-hackers/i2p.firefox/-/merge_requests/6/diffs#10d851887651eddb01e5952f08999080b019da2e
zzz
great. you have a target date for when you will propose transition out of beta?
eyedeekay
As soon as users receive an automatic update I will consider it ready
zzz
thanks
eyedeekay
Anything else on 2?
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3. Development Status (1.8.0 / 0.9.54)
zzz
(no, all good, haven't heard any complaints on 1.7.0)
eyedeekay
Me either, people seem to be pretty happy with it so far
eyedeekay
As for 3. Development Status (1.8.0 / 0.9.54) Unfortunately I've been a lot slower at some things than I expected, I'm stuck on UDP tunnels but almost ready for an MR on SAM authentication
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Besides that I'm doing some revisions to the complicated bandwidth wizard pages to make the selection process more understandable and the notifications more noticable
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We're about 6 weeks in with 7 weeks to go, right zzz?
zzz
right
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Do you want to update us on SSU2 or anything else you've been working on?
zzz
13 weeks would be a May 23 release
zzz
yes, thanks
zzz
enormous progress with i2pd on SSU 2
zzz
live testing happening in the network now
zzz
other things coming in the release: snark standalone improvements, router family fixes
zzz
an SSU 1 performance fix
zzz
things should slow down soon on SSU 2, and I'll be turning to some more bug fixes all over
zzz
eot
eyedeekay
Awesome, thanks for the updates zzz
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zlatinb anything you want to talk about for this topic before we get to 4?
zlatinb
I guess the reduction in tunnel build timeout should result in faster bootup
zlatinb
or faster 0-to-Router.isRunning()
zlatinb
that's all eot
eyedeekay
Thanks zlatinb, that will make people happy :)
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4. JNA in easy-install bundles, what doors does it open?
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zlatinb this was your topic but I have a lot of notes on it too, do you want to start?
zlatinb
sure.
zlatinb
Basically MR 6 adds the JNA libraries to the windows easy-install bundle
zlatinb
which just today I learned wasn't necessary because of JEP 419 (which is built-in JNA replacement)
zlatinb
but the overall point is the same: since we need to do some native things, what other native things do we want to do?
eyedeekay
Sometimes we need to talk to power/batter management
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*battery
zlatinb
In MuWire I've implemented a "background priority" on windows, which according to the MSDN docs guarantees the process never interferes with foreground processes
zlatinb
yes, battery power management is another such thing
eyedeekay
I need to ask for admin rights in a conditional way, which isn't supported by NSIS itself
zlatinb
so yeah that's from me, just invitation to think native :)
zlatinb
eot
eyedeekay
So yeah we definitely have a few cases in mind where it might be useful to have something JNA-like
zlatinb
ok.. then the question is do we add any/all such functionality in the easy-install bundle and keep it outside of the core router package
zzz
sorry to be the party-pooper, but at last month's meeting, JNA was a possible solution to a single problem (privilege) on Windows only
zzz
and today we're at "it's definitely the solution for many problems, what other fun stuff can we do with it" ?
zlatinb
yeah that's the party theme lol
zzz
which is both a leap and typical solution-looking-for-a-problem
zlatinb
that's one way to look at it, I think it (JNA / JEP 419) can make I2P better in many ways
zlatinb
on many platforms
zlatinb
I've just scratched the surface on windows tbh
zzz
so JNA has not been decided on?
zlatinb
JNA has the benefit of being backwards compatible down to java 1.4, JEP 419 is only in JDK 18
zlatinb
I would say both are on the table, with JNA having some headstart
zzz
419 is "incubator" status meaning it could vanish, don't count on it
eyedeekay
I'm pro-JNA because being able to control installer privs solves at least 2 problems for me and gives me the power to install to/run entirely from flash drives
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I don't want to lose that to a project being unready or abandoned
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So I guess pro-JNA, hesitant on 419 from me
zlatinb
well 419 with a slightly different api is already in JDK 17 which is LTS, but I won't have a strong opinion until it's out of incubation
zzz
we should continue to keep an eye out for the best tools to solve the problems we have now... daydreaming what else we could do with it isn't so important
zzz
going out of the JVM is always going to be messy and less maintainable, to be used only if really necessary, no matter what mechanism is used
zlatinb
Nobody disagrees with that, but I think we shouldn't stop ourselves from dreaming big
zlatinb
integrating with the windows shell or power management on laptops sounds awfully nice to me
zlatinb
that should be possible on linux laptops as well btw
eyedeekay
I'm still dreaming small TBH, flash-drive-portables were just a by-product of supporting adminless installs
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But if there's a non-JNA way of doing something then yeah we should probably try that first
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Anything else on 4?
zlatinb
not from me, eot
eyedeekay
Anything else for the meeting? timeout 1m
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All right thanks everybody for coming, looks like next month meeting will be May 3rd