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                        zzz
                    
                    
                        good news, found the cause of the network instability
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        what's causing the chaos, zzz?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        and followup question. is a fix imminently being pushed to git? :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        i2pd bug
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        can it be mitigated?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        they pushed a fix last night
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        so we have to wait for the i2pd contingent of the network to upgrade?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I'm working on mitigations on our side
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        well, you found the bug, that's a good start. what's i2pd doing that's breaking things?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        dropping large amounts of msgs rcvd over SSU
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ***  throws some of jrandom's tomatoes at orignal ***
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        so that wip patch you've got going on.. is that part of the mitigation strategy, and is it likely to land before next release?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no and no
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        just need to avoid SSU and avoid them in tunnels
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        i2np.maxConnections=0 ?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        * i2np.udp.maxConnections=0 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no, just avoid ssu for i2pd
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        so you're probing routers to establish whether they're running i2pd then? 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        you'll have the fix when I have it
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        thanks :) I'm not proposing or even contemplating a fix myself, beyond my paygrade, just trying to establish the scope of the issue.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        any ideas why a router that's definitely not firewalled repeatedly keeps using introducers and needs constant supervision?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        toggle udp and it magically finds it's not firewalled, all the time nothing in event logs, and no indication in the sidebar it's got issues.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        what's all the more odd is that ntcp2 is fine all the while.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        could it be that a peer is blocked at the local firewall, assumes the local router is therefore firewalled, and arranges introducers?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        *assumes that the remote router (ie my router)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        peer testing is not perfect. ipv6 especially
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ipv6 is disabled. and yet it still gets tested, apparently.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        shouldn't
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yeah, that's what I thought.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        Reachability changeFirewalled ➜ IPv4: OK; IPv6: Firewalled
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        Reachability changeOK ➜ Firewalled
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        something not right going on.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        If the "Disable IPv6" radio is selected, "Disable Inbound (firewalled)" should probably be disabled on submit.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I don't know if there's a bad interaction between those two options.. possible.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        anyways, if a router is configured as "not firewalled", it should refuse introducers.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        on a related note, there appears to be a bug when disabled and re-enabling udp.. local tunnels aren't closed properly, so you can end up with half a dozen or more of each local tunnel indicated in the sidebar.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        and apparently repeatedly doing that will break graphing, too!
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        git.idk.i2p is standing by ready to accept your bug reports :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        workarounds pushed
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        woop woop!
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                         skank.i2p/dev/i2pupdate.zip has zzz's buggy i2pd workarounds patch.
                    
                
                
                    
                        RN
                    
                    
                        "Nicely" worded dr. Heh, that makes the patch sound buggy. (Which I'm prety sure it is not.)
                    
                
                
                    
                        RN
                    
                    
                        either that or the patch has riders and a horse.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        context, RN :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        but you're right, zzz's workaround for a buggy i2pd would have been more correct. :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        or zzz's "buggy i2pd workaround" patch. or something.
                    
                
                
                    
                        RN
                    
                    
                        important thing is bug found and squashed.  Thanks zzz!
                    
                
                
                    
                        RN
                    
                    
                        speaking of...
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        it's only squashed when the network's upgraded. until then, it'll continue to cause network instability.
                    
                
                
                    
                        RN
                    
                    
                        once enough of the I2PDeerps update.... ;)