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dr|z3d
!ru
H20
Фуфанка (fufanka) — аморфный, смешной или идиотский человек, часто используемый как насмешка.
dr|z3d
harry: translate "Фуфанка (fufanka) — аморфный, смешной или идиотский человек, часто используемый как насмешка." into English.
H20
“Фуфанка — a formless, ridiculous, or idiotic person, often used as a derisive term.” *Fufanka* is a Russian slang term for a foolish, gullible, or absurd individual, typically hurled in mockery.
dr|z3d
!fact
H20
The common garden snail can enter a state of dormancy called "tympanostasis," allowing it to sleep for up to three years in dry conditions by significantly slowing its metabolism.
cumlord
zzzot is still borked for me on newest version, i keep upping the ratelimiting way above what works fine on -5 and within like 6 hours it usually fails for some reason
cumlord
this time it did something slightly different instead of just ignoring incoming connections which wouldn't allow me to stop it, all i could see in logs was 2025/12/13 14:56:59.676 ERROR […ifier ZzzOT] …SessionMuxedImpl: Received [MsgID 7540495] had no matches
cumlord
2025/12/13 14:57:27.280 ERROR [Server:7662] …TunnelHTTPServer: [HTTPServer] Error connecting to HTTP server 127.0.0.1:7662
cumlord
2025/12/13 14:58:10.682 ERROR [ZzzOT ] ….ZzzOTController: ZzzOT jetty start failed
cumlord
java.net.BindException: Address already in use
cumlord
also, deadlock on a separate router running 1dbb2356 told me to report convos.simp.i2p/file/1/nNw0QbURZgrgLpq7
dr|z3d
cumlord: did you try to stop and restart zzzot in the console?
dr|z3d
the SessionMuxedImpl error is probably related to PQ.\
dr|z3d
stopping and restarting zzzot from /configplugins has never worked for me, so if you stopped and restarted, that may explain the address in use error.
cumlord
i did stop/start it in the console several times to keep increasing the ratelimiting in the config, since it always stalls after some time
dr|z3d
when you say stalls?
cumlord
that error i didn't manually restart it, it was running on its own for 6-8 hours i think and looked to me like it either restarted zzzot or it was letting up on blocking from ratelimit, as peer count was very low
dr|z3d
I can't process that, that's word salad not a bug report :)
cumlord
lol i'll try to put some dressing on it
cumlord
yes, zzzot stalls for me on latest version, i'm not sure if it's and issue with peer connections in zzzot or time ran, but sometime either when approaching 20k peer connections or run time (some time frame of 4-12hrs), it simply ignores all incoming connections forever
snex
creamy garlic pls
cumlord
the tunnel will look something like this convos.simp.i2p/file/1/01rPMCfa27CqYSsG.jpeg
dr|z3d
ok, so you want to enable the zzzot logging on /configlogging ... see if that exposes any issues.
cumlord
so i manually stop, increase some paramaters on ratelimiting in the tunnelconfig for zzzot, then start again. usually this works for me, but it sometimes fucks with the stats which is fine
cumlord
i increased it a final time and started again, walked away for maybe 6 hours, and came back with the "2025/12/13 14:56:59.676 ERROR […ifier ZzzOT] …SessionMuxedImpl: Received [MsgID 7540495] had no matches" error thing, and CPU usage was very high
dr|z3d
and you've upped the limit on for tunnel.0.option.i2p.streaming.maxConcurrentStreams= in the zzzot tunnel config?
cumlord
wouldn't let me stop zzzot then, so had to restart the router
dr|z3d
maybe try something like this in your tunnel config:
cumlord
snex sorry everything is ranch
dr|z3d
tunnel.0.option.i2p.streaming.maxConcurrentStreams=0
dr|z3d
tunnel.0.option.i2p.streaming.maxConnsPerHour=8000
dr|z3d
tunnel.0.option.i2p.streaming.maxConnsPerMinute=2000
dr|z3d
tunnel.0.option.i2p.streaming.maxTotalConnsPerHour=0
dr|z3d
tunnel.0.option.i2p.streaming.maxTotalConnsPerMinute=0
snex
ranch is literally the worst
snex
i mean thats not even a flavor. "ranch?" you eating horse poop?
onon_
Hi, snex!
cumlord
k, go after the logging
cumlord
yup, in -5 i usually have maxconcurrentstreams at 2048, i'll try these next
cumlord
thanks :)
cumlord
ranch is an entire genre of food items
cumlord
and nonfood items
onon_
dr|z3d, did you fix the snark build for windows?
dr|z3d
should work fine, onon_1
onon_
dr|z3d, I wanted to offer you a business.
onon_
As you know qbittorrent removed i2p support. And now there is no normal client for torrents.
dr|z3d
I wasn't aware qbit removed support.
onon_
I would like you to fix snark+
onon_
I'll tell you what needs to be fixed so that the streams work properly, and you will redo it.
xHarr
I've seen people running the latest qbit version downloading my torrents this week
onon_
Because zzz doesn’t want to fix serious problems at all, and is working on jetty that no one needs.
onon_
Are you interested in this?
onon_
I see you write code quite quickly using AI
dr|z3d
if you think snark is somehow broken, sure, I'm interested in your analysis.
onon_
It's not snark itself that's damaged, the problem is the I2CP protocol. Because of this, constant disconnects occur.
onon_
You need to add additional functionality to the protocol.
dr|z3d
I don't think it's correct, or fair, to suggest that zzz isn't interested in fixing serious issues, notwithstanding. I need to state that.
dr|z3d
And jetty is very much needed, given both snark and the console run on jetty.
onon_
Do you really think that jetty is more important than the vulnerability in SSU2?
dr|z3d
That's a different question entirely. No one's mentioned a serious vuln in SSU2, not that I'm aware of anyways.
onon_
I mean the attack by fake routers that happened about a year ago
onon_
And no one has fixed this problem for over a year now.
onon_
So, are you going to fix snark+? Or are you not interested in that either?
dr|z3d
> if you think snark is somehow broken, sure, I'm interested in your analysis.
dr|z3d
try to be a little less antagonistic, though, you'll get much further.
onon_
I have never been hostile, perhaps a little arrogant
onon_
But I have reasons for this.
dr|z3d
suggesting that people "aren't interested" in fixing bugs in antagonistic. keep it impersonal.
onon_
Because for many years you have not been able to improve the transfer speed and connection stability.
T3s|4
onon_: understatement of the day: a little arrogant ;p
onon_
=)
onon_
So that's it. You can choose the specific implementation yourself. But you need to send information about the connection break to the router from the i2cp application.
onon_
I'm considering unused i2cp Message Types as an option
onon_
For example ReportAbuseMessage
onon_
When a connection loss is detected in the application stream, the client sends a ReportAbuseMessage to the router, and the router changes the outgoing tunnel and lease.
onon_
How to determine loss of connection? If outgoing messages stop receiving ACKs
RN
"jetty that no one needs..." jetty is the backend of much of the console, not just a bundled webserver.
onon_
And for incoming connections, such a trigger will be the receipt of two or more messages with the same seqn
dr|z3d
I think orignal's already suggested something like this, no?
onon_
Because the sending side, when it stops receiving ACKs from us, will begin to resend previously sent messages.
dr|z3d
ideally we want to coordinate so that we're all on the same page.
onon_
You fix it yourself, i2pd will patch its i2cp
onon_
We would like snark+ to work properly together with i2pd
dr|z3d
who's "we" ?
onon_
Because right now it doesn't work well.
onon_
I speak now for myself and original
dr|z3d
also, if it's an i2cp issue, it's not a snark issue per se, it's a router issue.
onon_
Even if he doesn't agree with something...
onon_
That's why I suggest you fix this in your router and snark+
dr|z3d
my point is, i2cp is a router issue. if it's a router issue, then it doesn't need a snark fix.
dr|z3d
if what you're proposing are fixes to snark, I haven't heard any yet.
onon_
You cannot identify connection problems at the router level. Application level only
onon_
Therefore, you need to be able to inform the router about problems in the application
dr|z3d
it all sounds very interesting in theory, but you're a bit short on the practicals right now.
dr|z3d
I need actionable info, and any changes to i2cp should involve everyone.
dr|z3d
also, I don't see anywhere in the qbitorrent commit logs that suggests i2p support has been removed.
orignal
"we" i2pd
onon_
That's why I suggest you use unused parameters that everyone will ignore.
dr|z3d
oh, right, the royal well, eh orignal? :)
dr|z3d
*royal "we"
orignal
why qbittorrent removed i2p?
dr|z3d
like I said, not seeing anything indicating they did in the github commit logs. onon_ seems to think differently.
onon_
I don't quite understand what you mean
onon_
Should I show you the place in the i2pd code where this check occurs?
dr|z3d
sure, I'm asking you where you think the changes should be made, and what changes you're proposing. since you're not a coder, why not be not a coder and get familiar as not a coder with the java codebase, too, since you're asking for changes there.
onon_
If I knew how to programing in Java, I would have already made my fork.
dr|z3d
you don't have to be a programmer, and you've already stated that you're not, to have an awareness of what the code's doing, and where.
onon_
With blackjack and whores
orignal
onon_ about qbittorrent
orignal
откуда дровишки? )
onon_
I have neither the strength nor the desire to understand your code.
onon_
Я скачал с офф. сайта последнюю версию а там нету i2p
onon_
5.1.2 есть i2p 5.1.4 - нету i2p
orignal
idiots
dr|z3d
not seeing removal anywhere.
orignal
strage
orignal
escpially since many people use it
dr|z3d
like I said earlier, nothing in the commit logs either.
dr|z3d
you compiled snark+ on windows yet, orignal, seeing as you're apparently lobbying for changes via onon_?
dr|z3d
!ru
orignal
once you have broken that build I've give up
H20
Бомж (Bomzh) — a slang term for a homeless person, derived from "бомба" (bomb) in a derogatory manner.
dr|z3d
I told you, I fixed it. several times.
orignal
no, бомж = без определнного места жительства
orignal
then I will try what have time
dr|z3d
harry, translate "бомж = без определнного места жительства" into English.
H20
“Бомж = homeless person, a derogatory Russian slang term for someone without a permanent address, often implying vagrancy or social deviance.”.
dr|z3d
git pull && ant i2psnark and you're done.
dr|z3d
we now ignore whatever i2cp reports as available bandwidth in snark, and respect whatever the user has configured.
onon_
I have given you all the information you need to make java i2p fast and stable. In my tests, javarouter performed quite well with speeds of about 5 megabytes/sek
onon_
Then you decide what to do with it
dr|z3d
it's all a bit vague and handy wavy right now, need more info.
onon_
What specifically do you not understand?
onon_
Your incoming speed is limited by the size of the buffer in the streams and the number of generated tags.
onon_
Your outgoing speed is limited by the window size and the CC algorithm you use
onon_
Change this and get high speed.
dr|z3d
have you used snark+ lately? I vaguely recall making some changes to buffers and tags, but I'll take another look.
onon_
No, I've only been using qbittorrent lately. For tests I used сanon snark.
dr|z3d
well that's not great, is it? you're presuming to tell me where the code needs changing because performance, and you're not even running it.
onon_
Sorry, I won't do this now. Working on UDPTunnel for i2pd
dr|z3d
no rush, but if you're talking about snark+ peformance specifically, make sure you're running the code.
dr|z3d
and, onon_, make sure you're running the ***latest*** code.
dr|z3d
(if you need snark built, shout).
onon_
I don't know how to compile java from source code at all.
dr|z3d
not difficult.
onon_
If I have time and desire, I hope you will help me do this.
dr|z3d
I can help you build for java, sure. it'll take about 3m before you're building code.