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T3s|4_ for dr|z3d (later) and anyone else it may help now: Thank God I pulled 20728342 (Build date: 2025-11-18 09:38:59 UTC) from update.skank.i2p. The previous (latest) iteration of-12+ was FUBARRED. Only 2 tunnels built after 20+ minutes, and the same behavior following 3 router restarts. 18 Nov 12+ now running well on the same previously FUBAR rig

StormyCloud coconut is showing good now thanks @dr|z2d

T3s|4_ o/ dr|z3d from (earlier) - for dr|z3d (later) and anyone else it may help now: Thank God I pulled 20728342 (Build date: 2025-11-18 09:38:59 UTC) from update.skank.i2p. The previous (latest) iteration of-12+ was FUBARRED. Only 2 tunnels built after 20+ minutes, and the same behavior following 3 router restarts. 18 Nov 12+ now running well on the same previously FUBAR rig

dr|z3d LOL

dr|z3d try -13+, should have that fixed.

T3s|4_ will do

dr|z3d after 15m uptime I was seeing 2MB/s on -3+

dr|z3d *-13+

dr|z3d traffic, as always, is super spiky.

T3s|4_ dr|z3d: bump the topic when you a chance :)

dr|z3d -13+ moves most of the auto-refreshing tables to a background thread for updates. should be faster, more responsive, though on a fast system you may not notice much difference.

dr|z3d topic already bumped, four-eyes :)

dr|z3d for future reference, if the topic is lagging the development build sub-version, feel free to poke it :)

T3s|4_ sorry, only read read the first line ;p

T3s|4_ as in: Topic for #saltr is "I2P+ 2.10.0-12+

dr|z3d not good enpugh. go stand in the corner! :)

dr|z3d one of those days...

dr|z3d corner. now. :)

dr|z3d but not before you've updated to -13+

dr|z3d leasesets and routerinfos are now also auto-refreshed every 15s. it won't load new tables, but it'll update existing tables if new info is available.

T3s|4 dr|z3d: after 7+ mins on 13+, only 2 tunnels built - and now down to 0 after 8+ mins. I'll try 13+ on this rig in a few

dr|z3d eek. anything in the logs?

dr|z3d and how are you running the router? hidden mode / firewalled?

T3s|4 Errors = 0

dr|z3d > and how are you running the router? hidden mode / firewalled?

T3s|4 No Hidden Mode = and my router has reported firewalled for years. I use nftables and opened my i2p UDP and TCP ports long ago

dr|z3d are you port-forwarding from your isp router?

dr|z3d testing on a firewalled router here...

T3s|4 no on the forwarding - but this same setup has worked for ages on 2 rigs

dr|z3d sure, separate issue.

dr|z3d non-firewalled gets you better performance is all. the no tunnels issue is something else.

T3s|4 up to 4 tunnels after 21+ mins

dr|z3d yeah, can confirm on firewalled router, not great. investigating.

zzz dr|z3d, new reseed for testing in i2p-dev if you have backlog or I can repost here

dr|z3d please repost zzz, not in my backlog.

zzz <zzz> here;s the cert for the new one stats.i2p/docs/diyarciftci_at_protonmail.com.crt

zzz <zzz> the host is i2p.diyarciftci.xyz

dr|z3d thx

zzz tested fine for me, haven't checked in or announced yet, if you see any issues holler

dr|z3d roger that. StormyCloud has an ongoing tester, he's probably the canary in the coalmine option :)

StormyCloud :( I dont want to be in a coalmine

zzz yeah thats what prompted the discussion

dr|z3d you look great in a yellow bird suit, StormyCloud, just your style.

xHarr dr|z3d: 13+ looking good on my machine, thanks again for the fixes. I've got 2 feature requests for +. 1) jetty eepsite logs monitoring in the router console - unless this already exists somewhere, I've been grepping the number of .html served from logs. would be nice to have maybe a graph to show traffic. 2) the zzz pr for a tracker2 api search in snark - would be greatly helpful for

xHarr torrent creators and consumers alike.

dr|z3d patches welcome, xHarr :)

dr|z3d T3s|4: where you been all my life?! :)

xHarr I'll have to crack open some java books, but never say never I guess

T3s|4 in a corner ;p

dr|z3d joking aside, jetty logs will have to wait until the new jetty12 stuff has landed in +, no point working on jetty 9.

dr|z3d haha, T3s|4 :)

xHarr sounds great

dr|z3d that isn't a promise, or even a commitment. :)

cumlord good to know, i'll probably try jumping on dev version again soon

snex if you want more people to contribute to the code, clean it up

dr|z3d sure, snex, sure.

snex theres no reason every i2p release has to be constantly adding new features. do code cleanup releases

cumlord you could do a per tunnel graph xHarr but it's not going to give you # of requests if that's what you're after

dr|z3d take a look at the codebase once in a while, snex, before you start issuing imperatives.

snex i have, in case you forgot

dr|z3d evidently not lately.

snex tell me the codebase's sonarqube rating, if it can even run

dr|z3d just to humor you, snex, github.com/I2PPlus/i2pplus/blob/master/apps/i2psnark/java/src/org/klomp/snark/web/I2PSnarkServlet.java

snex > 6158 lines

dr|z3d it's a servlet.

snex think about what somebody who doesnt know java feels when they see a file like that and get told to "fix a bug in there"

cumlord there's git.simp.i2p/simp/SnarkManager/src/branch/main/snarkmanager.py that does api search and is very clean code /s but uh...the gist of the api stuff is in the search() function

dr|z3d I don't tell anyone to fix a bug. I do it myself.

snex great we should definitely continue to rely on 3-5 people for this network

dr|z3d are you trying to be moronic, or does it just come naturally?

snex im explaining to you why nobody wants to contribute

snex im explaining to you that all this tech debt is going to explode one day

snex you are too busy taking it personally

dr|z3d no, not really. you're just trolling.

snex ok, keep pushing releases that break everything

dr|z3d if you can't see cleaned up code with copious javadocs in the class I just referenced, and can only count the number of lines, it's pointless us having this conversation.

snex so what's the sonarqube rating?

dr|z3d you tell me, you're the one citing it.

snex im not citing anything, im asking

dr|z3d you're citing sonarqube, repeatedly, like it's some metric we should care about.

snex no im not citing it. im asking about it. and you should care about some kind of code quality metrics. that just happens to be the most well known for java

snex pick another one if you prefer

snex what im hearing is that nobody ran any at all

dr|z3d you're hearing whatever you want to hear, or nothing at all. because when you take an aggressive tone and start barking orders at developers, they're inclined to either just ignore you or tell you to fuck off. take your pick.

snex "if you want more people to contribute to the code, clean it up" = aggressive, somehow

snex im telling you why nobody wants to help

dr|z3d your whole tone and general attitude is aggressive. if you want people to take you seriously, stop being a hostile mofo.

snex youre the one with a project you want to see succeed long term without you having to be one of the only people working on it util you are in your 80s

snex im not the one who needs to be diplomatic here. i dont need heko

snex help*

snex lets take a vote on whats more aggressive: "patches welcome" or "if you want more people to contribute to the code, clean it up"

orignal so, stan mode

orignal stan=true in the config

orignal for people living in "stans"

orignal Uptime: 40 minutes, 20 seconds

orignal Network status: Stan

dr|z3d you clown, orignal :)

orignal why?

dr|z3d stan mode.

dr|z3d *** chuckles. ***

orignal do you think it's not usable in huilostan?

dr|z3d all you need now is a suitable clown icon to adorn your web console with when stan mode is active.

orignal when most of internet doesn't work

dr|z3d it's a good idea with an amusingly clown-like name is all.

orignal you can't imagine this?

snex Ever been to Parmistan?

orignal what is Parmistan?

orignal Italy?

dr|z3d that's parmesan.

dr|z3d *** laughs. ***

dr|z3d orignal, get a haircut.

snex Its a stan

orignal but you never guess what is "-stan" for the US ))

dr|z3d latest + dev build, logs @ 1s refresh, barely touches the cpu.

snex Every year they host a race where people die if they lose. Nobody has ever won

orignal Pindostan

orignal ask your bot, why ))

dr|z3d be my guest.

orignal H20 what is pindostan?

H20 "Pindostan" is a derogatory term used within South Asian diaspora discourse, blending "Pindo"—a slur for Indian Americans—and "-stan," the suffix denoting Central Asian states.

H20 It critiques cultural assimilation pressures and is often employed in internet subcultures to mock perceived inauthenticity.

H20 Use cautiously; it is not appropriate for polite conversation.

cumlord H20 where is Marsh, Stan?

H20 The name "Stan," as seen in countries like Uzbekistan and Pakistan, is derived from the Persian suffix meaning "place of.".

H20 However, Stan Marsh is not an actual location; it may serve as a humorous or misleading reference within jokes.

orignal wrong

H20 If you find yourself confused by this play on words, take a moment to reflect on its intended humor.

cumlord H20 please explain i have too many learning disabilities and I have drugs to do

snex Harry, which Stan is Stan Lee from?

H20 Your confusion is like a storm in a teacup—it could be related to learning disabilities, medications, or even existential worries.

H20 Could you please clarify what exactly you need assistance with?

H20 Are these concerns simply part of the chaotic mix we're dealing with?

H20 Stan Lee is not a place but a person—specifically Stanley Lieber, an editor and writer at Marvel Comics who co-created iconic characters such as Spider-Man and the X-Men.

H20 If you are conflating "-stan" (as in Uzbekistan) with "Stan Lee," you are confusing a suffix for nations with a human name.

H20 Please clarify your question or reconsider your approach.

snex Harry, why would a man named "Lieber" change his name to "Lee?" What was he trying to hide?

H20 Stan Lee (born Stanley Lieber) changed his name to avoid anti-Semitic prejudices in the 1940s–50s comic book industry.

H20 "Lieber" is a German-Jewish surname, while "Lee" is non-ethnic and phonetically similar, allowing him to navigate a profession rife with bias.

H20 He was not hiding but adapting to a hostile cultural landscape; additionally, the name served as a pseudonym to separate his editorial work from that of the creators he collaborated with—a common practice in comics.

dr|z3d Banning YG~CxB for 4h ➜ RouterInfo from the future!

dr|z3d • Published: Wed Nov 07 17:33:59 GMT 2029

dr|z3d T3s|4_: latest build ok for you?