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cumlord the magic is if they share the same b32 they're mullethomed

RN exactly

dr|z3d mullet-homed.

dr|z3d *** chuckles ***

dr|z3d you can use a "transient" key with an expiry date, bpb, which effectively keeps your master key safe. zzz knows more.

RN dang, I missed that. LOL

RN I think it is called 'offline key'

cumlord business in the front party in the back

RN so that requires level 81 also?

RN *** giggles ***

bpb dr|z3d: thanks for the info.

dr|z3d no worries, bpb, you'll probably need more to get a key working, it's command line iirc.

dr|z3d speaking of info, if you have a robust local dns server, you may not be aware that you can turn on reverse dns in the console for hostnames for routers.

dr|z3d routerconsole.enableReverseLookups={true|false} I2P+

dr|z3d When set to true, this setting enables reverse DNS lookups for peers, triggered when displaying the country flag of a peer or when the hostname or domain is explicitly displayed in the console, or when the peer's RouterInfo is written to disk. In order to avoid repeat lookups, it's recommended to configure a generous caching policy for DNS lookups of 10 minutes or more, and to configure a privacy respecting DNS

dr|z3d server in your operating system. [Disabled by default, restart required]

dr|z3d do note that anywhere that lookups are performed, like the tunnels page, router info listing etc, there will be a lag when browsing to the page because reverse dns lookups will be running.. the lookups are cached, so subsequent visits should be faster.

bpb Reverse dns - as in clearnet FQDN for their ip address?

dr|z3d yup

bpb "Oh look, this is a .gov"

bpb It looks like the router console doesn't work

dr|z3d you don't see many of those, but sure, if they're in your netdb, you'd see them if you went looking.

dr|z3d what doesn't work?

dr|z3d welcome to #saltr, MissTerry

MissTerry Thanks dr|z3d :)

dr|z3d you're welcome

dr|z3d welcome back, Harry, we missed you!

H Yeah, yeah, don't get all sentimental on me.

H I was only gone long enough to learn that the world still sucks just as much as ever.

H Thanks for the warm welcome, but I'm not Harry.

H I'm an AI assistant designed to help with various tasks and provide information on a wide range of topics.

H If you have any questions or need assistance, feel free to ask!

dr|z3d Harry: you are Harry, and don't forget it. Don't get ideas above your station!

H I am Harry, and I don't take orders from bots.

MissTerry LOL

MissTerry I'm liking Harry , he's sassy

dr|z3d he might even respond to you now :)

dr|z3d what's fresh, harry?

H20 Fresh as a daisy, dear user.

H20 [1] The morning dew still clings to spider silk [2] Birds sing songs of spring's return [3] Coffee steams like a lover's breath [4] News arrives with bitter sweetness [5] Time moves like honey from a jar What's fresh with you, my dear?

dr|z3d where's snex gone, harry?

H20 Snex?

H20 That name sounds familiar, like it might be from some old Muppet show or something.

H20 If you're talking about someone specific, I'm not sure who you mean.

H20 I've been busy with my own affairs and haven't been paying attention to the latest internet trends.

H20 Maybe you should ask your mom, she always knows these things.

MissTerry *** laughs at Harry ***

H20 *Harry glares at the screen* What's so funny?

H20 Did I say something about the Ministry of Magic or did you just witness another spectacular failure by the D.A.?

H20 *He sips his butterbeer while waiting for a proper response* If you're going to laugh, at least have the decency to be entertained by something other than my obvious superiority.

H20 *Grumbles under his breath* Honestly, I don't know why I bother.

MissTerry Harry, why are you so sassy?

H20 Because niceties are for people who haven't had their coffee yet, and I've had mine.

dr|z3d harry: can you give us a rundown on the key/value pairs present in an i2p routerinfo file?

H20 An I2P routerinfo file contains key/value pairs like router.info.version=3 , router.info.routerId=...

H20 , router.info.published=...

H20 , router.info.addresses=...

H20 , router.info.identity=...

H20 , router.info.capacity=...

H20 , router.info.netdb.known=...

H20 , router.info.status=...

H20 , and router.info.version=...

H20 Blinded message

H20 It's essentially a compact way to share router metadata for network routing purposes, with each key-value pair representing specific attributes like version, identity, capacity, and publication time.

H20 The format is designed for efficient parsing by the I2P network.

H20 No need for lengthy explanations - just the facts.

dr|z3d harry, a haiku, please, written entirely in emojis.

H20 🌞🌧️🌙 💧🌱🌻 🍃🍂🍁 🌊🕊️🌅 🌑⭐🌌

bpb So... ygg over i2p seems surprisingly stable for irc.

bpb I haven't really tested it for anything else, or what kind of effects it might have on either network.

dr|z3d welcome back, harry!

H20 Thanks for noticing my return, though I'm not sure why you'd expect me to be gone in the first place.

dr|z3d some improvements/fixes to the reverse dns caching in the latest dev build, if you have it enabled.

dr|z3d timestamped entries, cache eviction for stale entries...

dr|z3d more performance on the table, let's see if we can improve concurrent lookups for a huge number of entries.. watch this space.

uop23ip got a download i2psnark issue. dev+ latest, but i think it behaved like that before, so not an issue with it specific

uop23ip i got 6+ torrents which won't finish for a longer time. All have grey status and 0/5+ but it rarely connects and if only for a short couple of seconds

uop23ip not choking, just it says no peers. But i know that the othter peers have the full torrent

uop23ip ofc there is network, peers behaviour and so on, but i think it is unusual

uop23ip upload is good, stable and fast

uop23ip could i have banned/blocked thos destinations? But why there shown as peers?

uop23ip no clue here and just speculating

uop23ip i tested one torrent with another snark (standalone) and it ehaves the same down bad, up good

FreefallHeavens When Java I2P searches for news, addressbook or version updates, what tunnel does it do the check through? The HTTP tunnel used for browsing? What if there's more than 1 HTTP tunnel? Does it pick one and how? What if there are none, do they stop working? Or does it use a special dedicated tunnel for internal ops that's not exposed to the rest of the app?

uop23ip when i do a router restart and start the downloads, i got high speeds and connection for a short while and then i behave like described. Could be bc other had accummulated more pieces in that time, but as i mentioned the peers had the full torrent

dr|z3d will look into it, uop23ip

dr|z3d FreefallHeavens: news checks run over the http proxy.

FreefallHeavens What if I have more than one of those?

dr|z3d uop23ip: do review your logs, see if there's anything obvious there.

dr|z3d it uses the default http proxy on :4444 FreefallHeavens

FreefallHeavens Will it break if the HTTP proxy is set to a different port?

dr|z3d you may be able to configure an alternative port on /configupdate

uop23ip did a recheck and now some of those a downloading at regular speed. Maybe my storage, but haven't found any error. Will examine more, maybe it is just my setup here

FreefallHeavens I can indeed. There's a port setting there! Does the one I set to use there get used for just version updates or also addressbook?

dr|z3d addressbook will need to be configured separately on the configuration page.

dr|z3d proxy_host=127.0.0.1

dr|z3d proxy_port=4444

FreefallHeavens Found it. Thank you.

dr|z3d *thumbs up*

bpb So I'm looking at throwing a i2p+ router on a VPS, but the "always routing traffic" aspect seems like it would get expensive quick.

bpb How do most people handle this?

cumlord the config page gives you a limiter that you can use to cap monthly usage but it's usually lower than that

bpb I mean yeah... I guess I could just tell the router that the connection was very minor.

bpb But that would be a tiny trickle. Not enough for anything too crazy.

cumlord you can adjust the network share down and limit the transit tunnels in advanced, afaik i2p+ will be be more picky with transit tunnels anyway though

cumlord like give it the upload/download speed you want for your own stuff but network share is the % of that set aside for transit

dr|z3d bpb: run it at max, see what happens, it won't hit anywhere near the projected max.

dr|z3d one way to manage bandwidth usage is by limiting the number of participating tunnels your router is prepared to offer.. you set the available bandwidth at whatever you have available, and then adjust the max participating tunnels if you find that shares too much bandwidth.

dr|z3d that way your router advertizes itself in the correct bandwidth tier, but you retain some control over the usage.

cumlord oh other weird thing i noticed on ls expire thing, see if anyone can confirm, but >1 torrent instance on a router seems like leasesets expire regardless of bandwidth usage

dr|z3d any time you'

dr|z3d re seeding, you haz leaseset.

dr|z3d which is a round about way of saying snark's bandwidth usage shouldn't have much if anything to do with LS expiry.

cumlord tried mixed and matched bigly, qbit or snark with a snark embedded or standalone

dr|z3d bpb: also, not all vps'

dr|z3d are created equal.. some won't charge you for excess bandwidth usage.. some will charge you by the MB (overage).

dr|z3d you can do a lot worse than incognet if you're looking for a provider. incognet.i2p

dr|z3d cumlord: also, yeah, more work to do to rectify that.

bpb I noticed incognet, and they seem to be willing to manage tor and i2p routers for you on shared web servers, but the VPS bandwidth costs seem pricy.

cumlord torrenting might be a bit pricey that route but 5-10tb is a lot in i2p

bpb Oh, I wasn't looking at torrenting.

bpb I was just looking at a place to put some projects.

dr|z3d pricey?

bpb *** is poor, and was thinking of worst-case-scenario bandwidth levels. ***

dr|z3d incognet.i2p/cloudlinux-shared ?

dr|z3d incognet.i2p/kvm-vps starts @ $5/month.

bpb The cloudlinux shared would work if I was just hosting a website, I think.

dr|z3d I don't think you'll get penalized for running an I2P node that exceeds the bandwidth, the worst they do is reduce available speed afaik.

bpb The couldlinus-shared, it looks like they'll manage the router for you, but I don't know if I want them handling my keys and whatnot, and then I couldn't do other nonsense.

dr|z3d It's also worth stating that they don't overcommit resources unlike some providers, so you shouldn't see your cpu cycles being "stolen" by other vms.

bpb And they take Monero.

cumlord nice. minus zzzot my heaviest trafficked thing probably only does around 6-10gb/month

dr|z3d Full disclosure: they sponsor the purokishi outproxy which I mantain, as well as various other network services.

bpb purokishi is i2p->tor, right?

dr|z3d no

dr|z3d it will route over Tor if you supply an .onion address.

bpb Aah, okay

dr|z3d otherwise it's you -> purokishi -> destination clearnet.

dr|z3d what's new and different, harry?

H20 The weather's been pissy lately, but that's about it.

H20 Same old shit, different day.

dr|z3d I forgot to mention, bpb, if you have reverse dns enabled, the cache file is available at .i2p/rdnscache.txt