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dr|z3d which is slightly strange, never used to be flaky.
dr|z3d not sure it's directly related to tunnel length, though.
dr|z3d then again, I'm not sure it's not. so who knows?
dr|z3d what's your thesis as to why 0 hop tunnels could be causing outages?
zzz if your router is at conn limits or is banned by my OBGW, there's nothing to be done
zzz typically it's a conn limit issue, although I assume you have those turned up to 11, so perhaps not the issue here, dunno
dr|z3d max connections appear fine, limit is 5K per transport.
zzz and you're well under that?
dr|z3d well under. not the issue.
dr|z3d issue appears to be LS expiry. thought I'd squashed that, obviously not.
dr|z3d only manifests when there are a bunch of server/client tunnels configured it seems.
zzz ok if you need any help from here, holler
dr|z3d so I've made some adjustments, let's see if it behaves less erratically.
dr|z3d well, after you fixed the yellow circle issue, I was all over my code. couldn't see anything wrong, maybe I wasn't looking in the right place. if you get a chance and have some free moments to eyeball it, I wouldn't mind, but no pressure.
dr|z3d now seems like a good time to break ramble again while we upgrade to the next php version.
dr|z3d and done. should be up and running again.
zzz the yellow tunnel thing was a while ago. Good luck on the bug hunt, if you narrow it down to some small area perhaps I can help, but not about to go looking on my own. Regular testing from a different router may give you perspective on the frequency of the issue
dr|z3d I keep an eye on several routers, some have intermittent issues, others appear totally fine. I have a hunch it may be related to allocated / available tunnels.
zzz zero-hop tunnels ofc are created instantly so there shouldn't be any issue from other tunnel builds, unless you're way over some limit somewhere
dr|z3d true, though let's see if disabling a bunch of client tunnels kills the issue dead.
zzz if there's 25 other sites on the same router than maybe? but it seems like that would affect the others way more than the zero-hopper
dr|z3d the error in the logs is emitted in router/java/src/net/i2p/router/client/ClientManagerFacadeImpl.java fwiw.
dr|z3d in this instance, these were client tunnels, not server tunnels.
dr|z3d and because I log both critical and error level logs to the top logging section, I have good visibility on when the error occurs.
zzz if you're gettting errors from there then you should be able to figure it out, definitely not seeing anything like that in canon, and that sounds pretty bad
dr|z3d ok, I'll have to give it another look. maybe code fatigue and frustration set in last time I went over the code.
zzz perhaps re-review your merge of the yellow tunnel fix if that's happening, or do a diff vs. canon of router/client and related
dr|z3d ok, thanks, will need to psyche myself up for the review.
orignal 0 hops tunnels should be forbidden
dr|z3d haha, shut up, orignal
dr|z3d yeah, why?
orignal you are nytik.i2p )))
dr|z3d why would you want to forbid 0 hops?
orignal because it's agaist i2p phylosophy
dr|z3d yes, and no.
orignal also you must make sure that your router is always reachable
dr|z3d there are occasions where 0 hops make perfect sense.
orignal that's often not true
orignal and you can sicth between tunnels even with 1 hops
dr|z3d for example, outproxies.
dr|z3d there's zero advantage, anonymity-wise, of setting more than 0 hops.
orignal as I said
orignal direct connection is not always a good idea
dr|z3d not always, but sometimes.
orignal because you don't have an option to swithc bteen tunnels
dr|z3d and no, you didn't say that.
orignal <orignal> also you must make sure that your router is always reachable
dr|z3d you said 0 hops should be forbidden. that's not quite as nuanced as "not always a good idea".
orignal I can exlain why
orignal because monkeys set 0 hops and ask why it doesn't work
dr|z3d well, monkeys gonna monkey. you can;t prohibit something just because idiots.
orignal I can prhibit it in the code
dr|z3d what you can do is provide easy-to-understand documentation.
orignal monkey don't read
dr|z3d of course, you can prohibit whatever you like. or you could just require an additional config to be explicitly set before allowing.
dr|z3d which isn't a bad idea of itself.
dr|z3d maybe we should require advanced mode in java before permitting 0 hops.
dr|z3d otherwise, when a non-informed user attempts to set 0 hops, we instead trigger an audio sample of a long, loud fart.
dr|z3d unfortunately we can't disperse a smell to go with it. maybe someday.
RN you ought to have it play ♫ ♪ Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up ♫ ♪
snex i cant even connect to things when i try 0 hops
RN you should only connect to things you run with 0 hops, even then you're telling your isp what ip you are connecting to
snex why? you all know my IP
snex i want a faster connection to win at trivia
RN hrmm
RN doubt it would improve the connection that much, it'd only be your side of the tunnel at 0 hops, you'd still have chance or lag/drop/etc
RN in your case, you don't care about the anonymity I2P provides, but most people here do or they wouldn't be here. so we shouldnt go round saying use 0 hop tunnels... most newcomers wouldn't get the anomimization effect 0 hop tunnels have.
RN *** shrugs ***
RN do as thou wilt
RN here's a shotgun. shoot yerself in the foot if y'all want...
RN *** shrugs ***
orignal dr|z3d see this example? ))
dr|z3d what's that, orignal?
not_bob I think orignal just needs more potato chips.
dr|z3d don't forget the chocolate coating. he won't be happy otherwise.
not_bob Fair point.
dr|z3d and he'll want a bottle of fizzy to go with it. non-alchoholic, of course.
dr|z3d seeing as he's only 6.
not_bob You mean russians don't start drinking that early?
dr|z3d a bottle of fizzy and a bowl of cocopops wakes orignal up in the morning.
dr|z3d you've got enough source material there for an image..
dr|z3d remember, orignal is 6.
not_bob Bah, I used the wrong model.
not_bob Everyone is coming out asian.
dr|z3d that'll teach you for trying to make everything anime :)
not_bob Right?
not_bob Hahaha, the kid in this one photo is an amputee!
dr|z3d well, despite only being 6, orignal did serve in the afghanistan war.
not_bob Bah, I need to get going her in a few.
not_bob Yep, all these images are shit.
not_bob I'll play with it later when I have more time./
dr|z3d what model are you using?
not_bob My first one? A new one I was playing with that does very good realistic japanese girls.
not_bob Most of my models are for anime. So, I only have the default sd model for normal stuff for now.
dr|z3d well that's about as useful as a chocolate teapot. name, not_bob, name.
dr|z3d half the models on the net do anime.
not_bob chilloutmix_NiPrunedFp32Fix
not_bob I'm rather fond of thise one for realistic girls.
dr|z3d fp32? you can probably find that quantized and faster for about the same quality.
not_bob Alas, I need to take off. I'll look into that when I'm done today.
dr|z3d protip: if it's got fp8 in it, it should be faster. laters.