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/2025/03/16
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orignal if I add more trackers to a torrent will I have more peers?
RN orignal_, probably not... there's only so many I2P torrent peers usually.... so I doubt that would do much
RN the open trackers (zzot) probably all have the same data, and postman's tracker2 probably sees everything the open trackers do
RN on the outernet, yeah, you can often get a boost that way
RN especially if there are private trackers in your mix
T3s|4 Good stuff RN - I was thinking along the same lines :D
dr|z3d RN pokes her head outside the rabbithole...
dr|z3d you been gone for days, RN :)
T3s|4 o/ dr|z3d - did I somehow miss interim builds between 9 Mar (-3+) and 16 Mar (-5+)?
dr|z3d hi T3s|4
dr|z3d 2.8.0-3 -> 2.8.5-0
T3s|4 fwiw, RN's been around, of late - maybe not just here ;p
T3s|4 thanks dr|z3d
dr|z3d just getting ahead of the imminent upstream point release
T3s|4 np, and noted :)
dr|z3d sure she's been here, just not paying much attention to irc.. new toy :)
dr|z3d she knows what I'm talking about.
T3s|4 never looked askance at any kid figuring out how a beloved new toy really works ;p
dr|z3d no aspersions, I'm partly to blame :)
orignal thanks
orignal then another question
orignal if I switch to skank will it reduce load to postman?
zzz announces are specified per-torrent in the .torrent files. snark automatically adds one or more opentrackers
zzz you can specify trackers when you create a torrent; if you downloaded a torrent, you can add/remove trackers on the torrent edit page
zzz PEX and DHT get you more peers anyway
zzz so there's numerous ways to find peers for any torrent, it's all happening at once
cumlord unless you’re announcing tens of thousands of torrents at once it won’t make much of a difference
zzz in any case the load on postman is completely under postman's control, via INTERVAL, it's not our issue to worry about
dr|z3d postman's interval is 45m or more iirc.
cumlord think his interval is an hour, I don’t doubt his tracker can handle way more than it is now
dr|z3d skank is whatever zzzot's minimal is, 15m?
cumlord It’s the indexer than gets pounded
dr|z3d postman has capacity coming out his ears, don't worry about that :)
zzz long-term we'll move to UDP announces, and he can put those on a different destination if he likes
zzz but yeah, tl;dr don't worry about postman ))
dr|z3d speaking of postman, when we've completed a torrent download, do we override the minimal interval in snark to declare that we've finished the download, zzz?
dr|z3d if we don't, iirc postman's expectation is that we should.
zzz yes we do
dr|z3d ok, good, good.
mareki2p What do you think about the constexpr sorted array of string views original? Do you thinkit is a good idea or does it seem like overengineered solution to minor problem? Or are you not sure what am I talking about, what advantages it brings?
orignal zzz, so I want to share 1Tb of torrents, would it worth to change trakcer from postman ro cake?
orignal for less load to postman
orignal fuck, Irc2P became unsable
orignal *unusable
orignal also decentralization
orignal mareki2p I think you are wasting your time
orignal not too much you can achieve this way
orignal however cleaner code is always better
orignal say use string_view instead string and array instead vector when possible
dr|z3d orignal: no.
dr|z3d postman's tracker can handle the load.
dr|z3d however, if you don't upload the torrents to postman's tracker, he won't see them.
dr|z3d (and neither will anyone else unless you have an alternative way to advertise them)
dr|z3d also, cake no tracker.
snex apparently there is a way to scrape DHT for torrent info but i dont know how to do it
snex at least, i dont know how to do it on i2p
snex bitmagnet does it over clearnet and i have feature requested i2p support from them but havent heard back
orignal it can handle the load
orignal but it becomes signle point of failure
orignal not cake, skank. that's a tracker
dr|z3d no, it's not a single point of failure. did you actually read what zzz told you earlier?
dr|z3d <zzz> announces are specified per-torrent in the .torrent files. snark automatically adds one or more opentrackers
dr|z3d <zzz> you can specify trackers when you create a torrent; if you downloaded a torrent, you can add/remove trackers on the torrent edit page
dr|z3d <zzz> PEX and DHT get you more peers anyway
dr|z3d <zzz> so there's numerous ways to find peers for any torrent, it's all happening at once
snex imo it would be cool to have an i2p bitmagnet as a plugin or something so that people dont need to use any centralized trackers, but even still theres no way to search metadata via DHT
dr|z3d in brief, orignal, once you're seeding a torrent, peers have a number of ways of finding it. postman is currently the most convenient, but as long as someone has the hash, if it's being shared on the network they'll find it.
orignal I see only dg2's