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orignal zzz, you have to make these changes on I2CP client side?

zzz yeah I made fixes on both sides, belt-and-suspenders

Irc2PGuest11348 been reading here over the past couple days and excited to think that possibly the oldes bugs holding back i2p might be getting found out right bout now.

Irc2PGuest11348 just wanna sey big kudos to all involved

zzz maybe. it is easier to find bugs when things are otherwise running well and there's no big attacks in progress

dr|z3d speaking of attacks, you seeing those no-version routers all over, zzz?

zzz no

dr|z3d interesting. eyedeekay says he's also seeing them en mass.

dr|z3d I noticed them a couple of days ago, still seeing them at ~4 new routers/min.

Irc2PGuest11348 yeah, calm times r good, measured optimism on my end that more reliable times ahead anyway. WOAH 4 per minute!

Irc2PGuest11348 thats would be like 50k

orignal what fix should be on router side?

orignal becuase I see no room to fix it in my I2CP code

zzz on router side I'm bypassing the newer-check for local leaseset storage

orignal what do you need local leaseset storage for?

orignal something I missed in my I2CP implemnetation

zzz we store local leasesets in our local netdb

orignal what for?

orignal if it non-solicted

zzz so we can send it to floodfills

orignal it's not netdb

orignal it's your local LS you publish to floodfiils

zzz that's the way we do it. blame jrandom

orignal sec

orignal do you store local LS in netdb if you are a floodfill?

orignal and do you reply with it if being requested?

zzz yes. but remember we have subdbs now. local LS does not go in main db

orignal so, I need to wait for a new reslease to have it fixed for snark

zzz yeah just waiting for the MR to get approved then I'll merge it

orignal another question

orignal what if you publish more than 2 times per second

orignal and eery time you add a second

orignal do you have a cap for it?

zzz there's no cap on generating leasesets, but we have a cap on publishing, once every 3 seconds I think

orignal then what happen if you have too many leaset updates

orignal say 10 per second

zzz then the last one will have a publish date 10 sec in the future

orignal and it keep gorwin

orignal than a mintute in future, etc.

orignal btw, my threshold is 2 minutes when I receive LS

orignal if publihed time is more than 2 minutes in future I drop

Irc2PGuest11348 The curious case of b32.i2p vs i2p... hey all, i'm meditating on whether i2p should alert to changes in the b32 in the address book. It seems b32s change rarely, i wonder if...

Irc2PGuest11348 the system should log b32 changes with a date

Irc2PGuest11348 a little alert error might appear when accessing the site to inform that it changed...

Irc2PGuest11348 Maybe on dashboard, a single sentence "Since X (earliest date), N b32 i2p addresses have changed. Click to be informed of changes."

Irc2PGuest11348 I'm trying to establish (or determine for myself) some basic i2p best practices. maybe theres a way to sign a b32 change to make such a manual process redundant/easy to approve?

Irc2PGuest11348 ie. sign the change with the old key?

Irc2PGuest11348 when i say "little alert error" maybe i can did through 4XX or 5XX error codes and find something that related to "unverified (on-first-use) encryption key"

Irc2PGuest11348 ?

Irc2PGuest11348 maybe someone thought about this in the 90s ????

dr|z3d check your addressbook logs, throstle.

dr|z3d ~/.i2p/addressbook/log.txt

dr|z3d once a hostname is mapped to an address, any attempt to change it will cause an error in the logs.

darius sounds like a good starting point, have multiple things going rn, bb soon

dr|z3d that gradle 9 related error is back in your buildbot, eyedeekay. git.idk.i2p/i2p-hackers/i2p.i2p/-/pipelines/1937/failures

eyedeekay log says that bintray is 502, that's weird, will take a look

Snowflakes expirimentcl4n.i2p

Snowflakes exprz6eyuops3puimbz47uch37ce7sldswq2ogmbdt2aucw5hv3a.b32.i2p:80

dr|z3d tell us what your site's about, Snowflakes

dr|z3d ah, another chan.

Snowflakes chan of expriment clan

Snowflakes raq53hlu7iivsd2cjfrae6ynxp5kjnwbkvz4owjw2sepldagtg5q.b32.i2p pleroma

darius fediverse nice, Snowflakes.... i'd run a mitra server and bloatFE (front-end) if i could, if bloat was written in rust i'd probably be running it right now

darius mitra is a fediverse server writtn in rust that allows subscriptions with crypto

Snowflakes Pleroma have /relay page for join instances, but I not tested yet

Snowflakes subscriptions to posts?

Snowflakes Users of I2P not love JavaScript

darius if you mark a post as subscribers only then only people donatin g can see it yea, most people dont do this.

Snowflakes got it. interesting

darius yeah its a nice instance an less demanding on the server, it won't poll for updates from the server unless you click something, way better than mastadon

darius Snowflakes> U"sers of I2P not love JavaScript " yeah thats why i would recommend bloatFE if it was written in rust, zero js, max social, are you federating with other i2p instances with pleroma?

Snowflakes No yet

darius apparently mitra is designed to federate over tor/i2p but i havent seen anyone doing it

darius dr|z3d> "once a hostname is mapped to an address, any attempt to change it will cause an error in the logs" interesting thx, i don't have any "errors" listed per se but do have "Invalid b64" and "Additional address for" logs, I dont remember any alerts in my UX re "invalid b64" but in those cases ignoring seems reasonable. So is the only reason there are no alerts about changing b32s because, whenever they

darius *were* changed, they were changed in a 'proper way' so to speak? is it because a sneaky attempt to change the address in an improper way has never been allowed to happen from the server(s) giving me new addresses? if a host were to try to change a b32 in a bad way how does i2p translate any possible error in the logs to something actionable for the i2p user? is this documented/shown somewhere? I'm just curios

dr|z3d there's nothing to stop anyone changing a b32 if you use the b32 to access the site.

dr|z3d otoh, if someone attempts to change the mapping/address of an existing hostname (that you have in your addressbook), then you'll see a proxy error.

dr|z3d that usually happens with an addressbook helper link.. you can try for yourself to see the result.

dr|z3d from your addressbook, copy an addresshelper link, paste into your browser addressbar, and change one character of the B64 in the link.. then you should see a proxy error warning.

darius "proxy error" ok, thanks and they can be triggered by a sneaky link like you've mentioned, or buy a name server that tries to change a b32?

dr|z3d if a hostname registrar attempts to change the b64 of an address already in your book, it will fail.

dr|z3d if someone publishes an addressbookhelper link with a bogus address for an existing hostname in your addressbook, you'll be confronted with a proxy warning if you click on the link.

darius ok so the registrars can ONLY add "Additional address for" services? yes? Now, can they "add" an a bad address or do added addresses need to be cryptographically signed by the previous b32 for a router to accept it??

dr|z3d reg.i2p supports updating/revoking addresses that are authenticated by the owner afaik, though I don't think the addressbook will update its entry as a result.

dr|z3d otherwise, the owner of an address can add an additional address if they're using a DSA address, which requires authentication, and that will cause the address in your addressvook to be updated with an additional associated address for the hostname.

dr|z3d I *think* that covers the various scenarios.

darius "if they're using a DSA address" interesting i'll need to research this and how i2p keys may or may not allow for this dsa signing(?). i think it would be good info to know especially for services that you might want to have multiple friends running for redundancy

darius each with there own address signed by the original webmster

darius Blinded message

dr|z3d you don't want a DSA key.

dr|z3d it's legacy, obsolete.

darius ah remember now it EC-[DR?]SA?

dr|z3d i2p-projekt.i2p/spec/cryptography

dr|z3d > As of release 0.9.12, the router supports additional signature algorithms that are more secure than 1024-bit DSA. The first usage was for Destinations; support for Router Identities was added in release 0.9.16. Existing Destinations cannot be migrated from old to new signatures; however, there is support for a single tunnel with multiple Destinations, and this provides a way to switch to newer signature types.

dr|z3d Signature type is encoded in the Destination and Router Identity, so that new signature algorithms or curves may be added at any time.

orignal why there are so many "N" routers in the network?

orignal I see them almost in every tunnel