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@zzz
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zzz
looks like from here, the attack either was modified or stopped about 12 hours ago; plesae report observations
zzz
I have zero bans remaining of suspect fakes
zzz
there's an ongoing background noise of week-old RI store attempts, going to try to track those down and figure out why they are rattling around
dr|z3d
I did mentioned something to you in private yesterday re bans, probably got lost in the noise.
dr|z3d
*mention
dr|z3d
I've caught orignal's toping borg.
zzz
about the ban time?
dr|z3d
no, no, about the number of bans.
dr|z3d
unrelated, updated the maketorblocklist script, not it does the work for you, pulls the list, modifies, saves, deletes downloaded file. git.skank.i2p/i2pplus/I2P.Plus/src/commit/458fbec9662e897dfbeb4f05fcd8d1e9939480ea/installer/resources/maketorblocklist.sh
dr|z3d
*now
zzz
yup, nice job, if we ever need it I'm ready, but for now I don't see a need to be proactive about it
zzz
irc is choppy, if I missed something in DM, try again please
orignal
<Vort> интересно. количество флудфилов в базе уменьшилось (до 1.5к) и при этом поползло вверх количество транспортов (сейчас по 5к NTCP2 и SSU2, раньше было по 3к)
orignal
Vort's report
orignal
less floodfills more transports
dr|z3d
transports or transits?
orignal
NTCP2 and SSU2 sessions
dr|z3d
lots of very transient connections it appears.
orignal
zzz asked to report obrevations
dr|z3d
these are swamping my logs right now: Signature: ECDSA_SHA256_P256 with SendStreamID but no connection found ➜ Recently disconnected
zzz
thanks orignal/Vort
dr|z3d
nothing important, zzz, was just remarking on the # bans for the class of router we're tracking being lower than expected.
dr|z3d
(yesterday)
zzz
ok
zzz
the bigly update should help also
dr|z3d
these disconnections are continuing apace, looks like a possible new strategy. establish connection, drop connection.
dr|z3d
either that or the entire floodnet is being taken down.
zzz
yeah high levels of incoming conn esp SSU2, our throttler is working well, haven't seen need to tune it yet
zzz
04/29 14:14:31.084 WARN [ handler 1/1] sport.udp.EstablishmentManager: Probabalistic drop incoming (p=26/128) last rate 131/min current rate 144
orignal
Vort also sees mammoth's shit
orignal
let's define the threshold we don't accept older RI
orignal
72 hours?
zzz
yeah I wanted to discuss that
zzz
not sure but the old ones may be coming from i2pd, I;m starting to research
zzz
what are your current limits?
orignal
I drop only future RIs
orignal
then delete older druing cleanup
zzz
hmm
zzz
looking...
dr|z3d
we drop them in RefreshRoutersJob, but not solely there.
orignal
we need to set a limit
orignal
I guess 12 hours is fair enough
zzz
we have always had limits. Yes I recommend you add some
zzz
here's ours:
zzz
assuming we have been up > 1 hour:
orignal
yes I will add
zzz
if we are ff: 1 hour
zzz
if RI has introducers: 54 minutes
orignal
hour about regular RIs?
zzz
otherwise, variable depending on size of our netdb: max 27 hours, min 1 hour
orignal
why 1 hour for FF?
orignal
what if we recieved it as reposnse to our lookup?
orignal
it's not a good idea
zzz
because routers must publish to you, so no need to keep longer, and they don't have to worry about staying integrated
orignal
I'm OBEP
zzz
ffs don't have a problem remembering RIs
orignal
and a message comes to older IBGW
zzz
can always look up again, it's just a way to manage memory usage
orignal
yes but what if I recieve older IBGW again?
zzz
once we're over 5000 RIs, it's a firm 1 hour expiration. If we receive an old RI we throw it away
orignal
even as lookup repoense?
zzz
yes, correct
orignal
what if IB owner has 200 routers in thier netdb?
orignal
they will pick older RI for IBGW
zzz
routers try hard to refresh their RIs, especially in the first hour after startup
zzz
old RIs usually still work
dr|z3d
well this is curious: [SSU2] Received SessionRequest from invalid address/port: 176.9.63.240:9050
zzz
on one router right now I have 4400 RIs, oldest is < 4 hours
zzz
9050 is tor
dr|z3d
exactly.
zzz
not on your list, might be just bad luck
orignal
let's limit by 12 hours for now
not_bob
I'm still getting crap for build success on many of my routers.
zzz
up to you orignal but that sounds fine... don't forget that reseed RIs may be older than that
not_bob
And, it appears that many of my routers don't have a working http tunnel for whatever reason.
dr|z3d
you updated + yet not_bob?
not_bob
dr|z3d: Everything.
dr|z3d
when did you update +?
not_bob
less than 12 hours ago again.
dr|z3d
ok, should be looking satisfactory then.
not_bob
Looks like my i2p routers are not reporting as often as they should.
not_bob
But, the ones that are have improved success rates.
not_bob
Let me make some adjustments.
not_bob
It could be on the I2P+ end. That would explain all the failures.
zzz
dr|z3d, are you helping out postman? had some luck sending email yesterday, not so much today
dr|z3d
zzz: yeah, keeping postie abreast of the changes.
zzz
super, thanks
not_bob
I increased the tunnel count for the b32 that everything gets reported to. That may make it more stable.
not_bob
I'll know in a few hours :)
dr|z3d
zero toleration for invalid address/port here.
not_bob
I'll check back in a number of hours. Later all!
orignal
zzz and we don't flood older than 1 hour. right?
zzz
orignal, I don't think we have different rules for flooding, let me check
zzz
yeah since the limit is 1 hour if ff, we won't store or flood if older
zzz
so that sounds right
orignal
Tunnel creation success rate: 17%
orignal
not bad
dr|z3d
~70-80% here
dr|z3d
ok, since we're battening down the hatches around here, what about addressing this excessive introducers issue?
dr|z3d
worth setting a hard limit?
orignal
what's with it?
orignal
I have fixed that bug long time ago
dr|z3d
seems suspect when you've got 10+ introducers configured.
dr|z3d
really, anything > 3 seems suspect to me.
orignal
maybe old code?
orignal
we had the bug about it
dr|z3d
could be.. you're setting a hard limit now?
orignal
I publish only 3
dr|z3d
ok, good.
orignal
for receiving not sure what's allowed. I would limited to 10, e.g 0-9
dr|z3d
I'd be inclined to ban anything with > 3 tbh.
orignal
I wuld do it for 9+
dr|z3d
whatever we chose, probably not a bad idea to firm up the spec.
dr|z3d
have you got a minute, zzz? Trying to work out why I'm seeing log entries that repeatedly report a ban for an IP that should already be banned.
dr|z3d
it's the invalid 9050 offender.
zzz
perhaps the log is for a port check that is before the ban check?
dr|z3d
oh, could be. do I need to reverse these? if (!TransportUtil.isValidPort(from.getPort()) || !_transport.isValid(fromIP))
zzz
not necessarily
zzz
generally speaking you should do the most efficient check first
zzz
and keep in mind the order of checks when eyeballing logs
dr|z3d
hmm
dr|z3d
here's the relevant block, I can't see any issue with it, maybe you can?
dr|z3d
byte[] fromIP = from.getIP();
dr|z3d
String ipAddress = Addresses.toString(fromIP);
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boolean hasIP = fromIP != null;
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boolean isBlocklisted = hasIP && _context.blocklist().isBlocklisted(fromIP);
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if (!TransportUtil.isValidPort(from.getPort()) || !_transport.isValid(fromIP)) {
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if (_log.shouldWarn()) {
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_log.warn("[SSU2] Received SessionRequest from invalid address/port: " + from);
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}
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if (!isBlocklisted) {
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_context.blocklist().add(fromIP, "Invalid address/port in SessionRequest");
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if (_log.shouldWarn()) {
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_log.warn("[SSU2] Banning " + ipAddress + " for duration of session -> Invalid address/port in SessionRequest");
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}
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} else if (isBlocklisted) {
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if (_log.shouldInfo()) {
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_log.info("[SSU2] Not banning " + ipAddress + " -> Already in blocklist");
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}
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}
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return;
dr|z3d
}
zzz
well, on its face, isBlocklisted will be false if fromIP == null
dr|z3d
yeah, except fromIP should never be null, hasIP is probably not required.
dr|z3d
if it was null, then ipAddress would return null or error, which it never does.
zzz
as I've repeatedly cautioned, your strategy of banning/blocking for every transgression is problematic, especially in the current climate of widespread spoofed/fake RIs; don't get carried away
dr|z3d
*nods and smiles*
dr|z3d
you can spoof an ip, but you can't spoof a direction connection from that ip, which is what I'm targeting here.
dr|z3d
*direct
dr|z3d
unless I'm missing something.
zzz
you can with UDP if it's pre-token
dr|z3d
ok, noted, thanks.
dr|z3d
so let's see if we can extract a router hash instead, I guess.
zzz
be esp. cautious of IP blocks, because there's no expiratoin
zzz
although it is LRU
zzz
which reminds me, eyedeekay -
zzz
what in the world is the PROP_BLOCKLIST_EXPIRE_INTERVAL stuff you added last summer?
zzz
it's a little messy
orignal
shouldn't we ban LRU routers?
zzz
sorry, LRU = least recently used cache
orignal
I though router caps ))
zzz
))
zzz
eyedeekay, an int # of ms overflows a lot faster than you think, among other problems....
orignal
btw what do we do with such routers?
orignal
with U and R together
dr|z3d
yeah, I was thinking about that yesterday, no time limit for ip blocks.
dr|z3d
U + R caps, if routers exist publishing both, should be instant ban, no?
dr|z3d
that has to be modded code, surely. normal routers won't publish both.
eyedeekay
It seems like it would be mutually exclusive
dr|z3d
have you actually seen any routers like that, orignal?
dr|z3d
should be, eyedeekay, but there are some nuts out there messing with code :)
dr|z3d
I'm staring at about -8000 bans right now vs yesterday.
dr|z3d
6-8K, something like that, rough estimate.
eyedeekay
Re: expire bans, added it b/c of the 'shitty bans' as orignal put it at the time as an option to expire all bans at a user-specified time, but it's probably also an example of obscuratus and I having similar blindspots
eyedeekay
Nobody uses it and it's probably not very useful anyway, and the key source of said bans went away last checkin, so I could just revert it now
zzz
yes eyedeekay I recommend reverting. It looks like an experiment, not a feature, and not very useful either
zzz
- can't change the time after startup
zzz
- cache is LRU already
zzz
- Integer instead of int
zzz
- Integer instead of long, overflow will be very bad, infinite loop
dr|z3d
low hanging fruit.
orignal
does Java do it now?
orignal
or it needs to be implemented?
dr|z3d
probably needs implementing, not difficult.
dr|z3d
and done.
orignal
yes, that's what I mean
dr|z3d
boolean reachable = cap != null && cap.indexOf(Router.CAPABILITY_REACHABLE) >= 0;
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boolean unreachble = cap != null && cap.indexOf(Router.CAPABILITY_UNREACHABLE) >= 0;
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if (reachable && unreachable) {
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_context.banlist().banlistRouter(h, " <b>➜</b> Invalid published capabilities (RU)", null,
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null, _context.clock().now() + 24*60*60*1000);
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_msg3p2FailReason = NTCPConnection.REASON_BANNED;
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if (_log.shouldWarn() && !isBanned)
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_log.warn("Banning for 24h and immediately disconnecting from Router [" + h.toBase64().substring(0,6) + "]" +
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" -> Publishing both R and U caps");
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_context.simpleTimer2().addEvent(new Disconnector(h), 3*1000);
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throw new DataFormatException("Invalid caps (RU): " + h);
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}
dr|z3d
* boolean unreachable