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T3s|4
yep dr|z3d - on Win it looked like everything was running as expected, then seeing something like: Update available...attempting to d/l now. However, never saw the usual Contacting i2p+ server dialog/progress bar in the side panel. Perplexed, indeed :)
dr|z3d
T3s|4: if you want to try something, you could rename your config dir with i2p stopped, then start it and see if a new profile fixes.
T3s|4_
alright, that'll be my next test when I'm back on Win
T3s|4_
dr|z3d: thanks good for everyone to know that Zuck remains as untrustworthy as ever ;p arstechnica.i2p/security/2023/07/how-threads-privacy-policy-compares-to-twitters-and-its-rivals/3
T3s|4
dr|z3d: stopping, renaming ProgramData\i2p, then restarting had no impact, other than seeing No update available after many attempts
Quaddle
H T3s|4
Quaddle
I can not visit i2p sites. Can you throw in a word, what to check ?
T3s|4
Quaddle what are your browser's proxy settings set to?
T3s|4
he ^left ;(
dr|z3d
interesting, T3s|4. hmm.
dr|z3d
any change in the location of the config dir as indicated on /info?
T3s|4
dr|z3d: too late to check that now, back on Arch. Will have a look next time
dr|z3d
ok
dr|z3d
not important given the no change in update checks/downloads
Invizzy
hello everyone!
Invizzy
So I've been struggling to understand this concept all day, but how exactly does DNS work within networks such as I2P? For an example, an internet connection must be available for these systems to communication, but in terms of DNS how would this work? It must pass through the ISP correct?
Invizzy
Perhaps I am merely overthinking this as it must pass through the ISP to reach the outside, but how does it know where to go if the all data is encrypted and hidden from the ISP?
uop23ip
Invizzy, geti2p.net/en/faq#addresses maybe this will help
Invizzy
uop23ip: Thank you! I completely forgot about the FAQ smh
dr|z3d
dns requests for .i2p hosts are processed in network, Invizzy. If they're reaching your dns provider, local or isp or otherwise, then you have a leak.
Invizzy
dr|z3d: Thank you for the clarification! Fortunately, I don't believe that I've been experiencing any leaks.
Invizzy
Also, is there any significance behind the reasoning for I2P+'s .i2p site name? lol
dr|z3d
a skank is a Jamaican dance. other than that, not really :)
Invizzy
Ah, because I sort of interpreted it as the insult lol
dr|z3d
we have layers, encrypted layers :)
Invizzy
Better to wrap it up in layers rather than none :)
dr|z3d
if you're running I2P+ Invizzy, you may want to consider using the /dev/ update path for in-console updates.
Invizzy
I'm currently running I2P+ dr|z3d! I might give it a try. Would there be any potential de-anonymization's to running a router with a /dev/ build?
dr|z3d
None. As far as your router is viewed on the network, it's just a standard release version.
dr|z3d
Very occasionally there may be a feature that, to those that are looking hard enough, indicates your router's running a dev build, but it's fairly unusual, and for the most part I'll hold off incorporating the patch if it's a serious risk.
dr|z3d
That being said, there are enough I2P+ routers on the network running dev builds, so the risk is pretty much non-existent.
dr|z3d
the advantage to running dev builds, otoh, is that you tend to get fixes and enhancements sooner.
Invizzy
Interesting. Are there any /dev/ patch notes to see the new patch features?
dr|z3d
this will give you a breakdown of all the changes: gitlab.com/i2pplus/I2P.Plus/-/commits/master
dr|z3d
another minor thing to note, as of 2.3.0, all dev builds are now supplied as pack200 update files, so they're ~50% smaller than a standard update, or about 33% smaller than a full release update.
dr|z3d
not 33% smaller, sorry, 33% of the size or 66% smaller.
dr|z3d
standard release update -> 15MB, standard dev update -> 11MB, dev update with pack200 -> 5MB.
dr|z3d
sometimes dev builds are bigger, usually when a new geoip database is included.
Invizzy
That seems pretty nice and should hopefully have a positive impact across the network with less bandwidth constraints.
dr|z3d
how it used to be until Oracle retired pack200 with java 14. and then I pulled the pre-14 pack200 back into the console. :)
dr|z3d
*it used to be that way as standard
Invizzy
Odd. I don't have much experience with Oracle/Java but I was thinking of diving a little bit into Java. I've also never heard of pack200 either.
Invizzy
That seems pretty cool! Didn't know there was essentially compression methods for specifically for JAR files.
dr|z3d
live and learn :)
dr|z3d
as mentioned, it's now deprecated, but I2P+ brought it back to life :)
dr|z3d
I figured a 50% saving for dev updates was worth the trouble.
Invizzy
I would like to hopefully become certified in Java development. I'm still fairly new to programming though, but hopefully that'll give me a nice boost.
Invizzy
If it's deprecated, would that mean that there's a possibility for vulnerabilities if it's not being maintained?
dr|z3d
unlikely.
dr|z3d
it was fully formed and road tested before it was deprecated. and there's no way to exploit it, anyways. it's just a packer/unpacker.
Invizzy
Interesting. I wonder why the deprecation if it was fully functional and seemed to do great for its purpose.
dr|z3d
powers that be at Oracle decided the benefits weren't worth the effort to maintain. and on fiber, they're probably right. but i2p usecase is a bit different.
dr|z3d
oreilly.com/library/view/java-11-and/9781789133271/ae93e8f2-004e-4d6c-bcbe-8ce9c0b2247a.xhtml
dr|z3d
"Introduced in Java 5, pack200 was a compression scheme for JAR files. It was used to decrease the disk space and bandwidth demand when Java programs were packaged, transmitted, or delivered. Developers used pack200 and unpack200 to compress and decompress the Java JAR files."
dr|z3d
"However, these are becoming irrelevant in today's modern storage and transmission improvements. JEP 336 deprecates the pack200 and unpack200 tools, and also the corresponding pack200 API."
Invizzy
Of course! It almost seems like a great revival story for something as simple as a compression tool being used for anonymity networks to push out updates.
dr|z3d
Quaddle: proxy fixed?
Quaddle
No, i am in targeting it with RN on salt
dr|z3d
ok
Quaddle
You can weigh in as you like mate