+R4SAS
                        
                        
                            +RN
                        
                        
                            +RN_
                        
                        
                            +T3s|4
                        
                        
                            +Xeha
                        
                        
                            +acetone
                        
                        
                            +orignal
                        
                        
                            Irc2PGuest82658
                        
                        
                            Onn4l7h
                        
                        
                            SlippyJoe_
                        
                        
                            T3s|4_
                        
                        
                            aargh2
                        
                        
                            cumlord
                        
                        
                            leopold
                        
                        
                            mareki2p_
                        
                        
                            not_bob_afk
                        
                        
                            profetik1
                        
                        
                            qend-irc2p
                        
                        
                            shiver_1
                        
                        
                            u5657
                        
                        
                            vvx2
                        
                        
                            x74a6
                        
                    
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        CRIT […eTimer2 4/4] …til.SimpleTimer2: SimpleTimer2: Timed task net.i2p.router.transport.udp.PeerState2$ACKTimer@5686a7c4 exited unexpectedly, please report
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: Index 11 out of bounds for length 8
                     
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.router.transport.udp.SSU2Bitfield.set(SSU2Bitfield.java:103)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.router.transport.udp.PacketBuilder2.buildPacket(PacketBuilder2.java:301)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.router.transport.udp.PacketBuilder2.buildPacket(PacketBuilder2.java:143)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.router.transport.udp.PacketBuilder2.buildACK(PacketBuilder2.java:346)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.router.transport.udp.PeerState2$ACKTimer.timeReached(PeerState2.java:782)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.util.SimpleTimer2$TimedEvent.run2(SimpleTimer2.java:501)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.util.SimpleTimer2$TimedEvent.run(SimpleTimer2.java:440)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at java.base/java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:539)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at java.base/java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:264)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at java.base/java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:304)
                        
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1136)
                       
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:635)
                       
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833)
                     
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Block type 12 of size 5
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Ack
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Block type 4 of size 1313
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: First fragment
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Block type 5 of size 60
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Follow-on fragment
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        zzz, why is it?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        so, I receive packet of 1313 + 5 bytes
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        and last fragment of 60
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        why was it split by two?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I beleive there is plenty of room
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        for send it as signle block
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        never mind, because max payload size=1340
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        wiht MTU 1420
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        thanks dr|z3d thats a new one
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        that's on an up-to-date router, zzz.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        the error occurred 1/2 dozen times in the space of a couple of minutes, then stopped.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        erorr from me
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        what?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        it was a question
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        if this error came from me
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no, almost certainly not. looks like a synchronization or race issue
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        dr|z3d, what's your PeerState2 log level? wondering if you have any nearby logging
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        all turned off, zzz
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok. stumped atm
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I'll enable PeerState2 debug logging to see if we can shed some light. I was keeping an eye on participating throttler, so didn't want to choke up the logs. That issue appears to have passed.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        it's gonna be tough. the best I can do maybe to add more logging to the code if it happens again
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        critical level is good, doesn't get lost in the flow then.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        orignal: no idea, didn't have the requisite logging enabled.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        its a headscratcher because I'm not off by 1, I'm off by 4
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        oh, and what zzz said.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        dr|z3d, java version?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        i2p+?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        OpenJDK Runtime Environment 18-ea+36-Ubuntu-1
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        x86_64?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yup, 64bit.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        coreisbr  Ivy Bridge  [Jcpuid version: 3]
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        obviously I2P+, orignal :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        I am not going to make the meeting today
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Best I can tell I've got 6-8 hours left, but I don't know when/how much I took
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Very good quality though
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        what you taken, eyedeekay? acid? :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Yeah not sure when but I think somewhere between 5-8 of the size doses I used to take in college
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        lol how was hope?
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        High end of as much as I've ever taken
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Fun, as you might imagine
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        you home safe or still on the loose in NYC?
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Spent a lot of time meeting people, volunteered a bit, and at about 1 last night, realized I was high as kite
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        what happened?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        sounds like someone enhanced eyedeekay's beer.
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Not sure. I helped clean up and picked up a ton of tiny pieces of cardstock
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Might have done it to myself
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        where are you?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        seems in Harlem ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        I'm in my hotel restaurant getting breakfast
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        should we send zlatinb_ over to check on you?
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Nah I'm fine this is not my first rodeo
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        got Sav there with you?
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Yeah we're both here
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        she got it together or is it a double shitshow?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        positive vibes, zzz. it's not a shitshow, it's a dance in the clouds :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        She says she's all right too
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok, if you need anything holler and I'll get zlatinb_ up on signal. have fun
                    
                
                
                    
                        eyedeekay
                    
                    
                        Yeah I'm well into the groove of it now, just got to be careful in this heat
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        found the bug dr|z3d, thanks again
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        wasn't the issue, but you might want to update your JRE since you're on a EA
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        oh, good that you found the bug. great. re JRE, I'm waiting for the repo to update. this is Ubuntu Kinetic, so I'm a little surprised it isn't already updated.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        oh, or maybe this is the one box I didn't update to kinetic. let's get that in motion.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        debian has 18.0.2, yeah, kinetic has 18.0.1
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        36ea is jammy
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I usually give the latest dev release a couple of months to bed in and then update. usually fine.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        sure, jammy just went unsupported a few days ago
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        which is why I started looking at the ruby2.7 issue
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        jammy unsupported? how so? that's current.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        or you mean wrt ruby?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        oh sorry I meant impish
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        21.10
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yeah, right. jammy is LTS afaik.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        gotta move that box to jammy at some point. not a crisis but on the list
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        as for ruby, a snap is probably your best bet, then you get to keep it updated without too much effort.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        "snap refresh" or whatever the command is.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        well there's lots of ways to do it, but first have to see if it works
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        > Fetched 784 MB in 6s (62.9 MB/s)
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        entire upgrade took around 7 minutes. not bad.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I did it on one box the other day, took 5 hours
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ouch
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        interesting error #31:
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        …ntcp.EventPumper: Error in the event pumper
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             java.lang.NullPointerException
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.router.transport.ntcp.NTCPConnection.sendTermination(NTCPConnection.java:917)
                       
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.router.transport.ntcp.NTCPConnection.sendTerminationAndClose(NTCPConnection.java:884)
                       
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.router.transport.ntcp.EventPumper.run(EventPumper.java:335)
                      
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)
                     
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                             at net.i2p.util.I2PThread.run(I2PThread.java:103)
                     
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                                            if (port <= 0 || ip == null)
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                                                throw new IOException("Invalid NTCP address: " + naddr);
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        kinetic's still on EA builds. slack fsckers. Private Build 18.0.1-ea (OpenJDK Runtime Environment 18.0.1-ea+10-Ubuntu-1)
                     
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        that event pumper npe looks like it killed a good chunk of the router's traffic.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        dunno, at first glance it doesn't look possible
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        not seen it before, this much I know.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        is it NTCP or NTCP2?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        NTCP code is long gone
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        I've run across routers with Port = 0, and no NTCP address.  I think QPUV would occasionally show up that way.  Let me see if I can find one.
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        Oh, is this a NTCP v1 error?
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        If I go to "All Routers with Full Stats", it's easy to do a search for "Port: 0".  But it's always the SSU transport with Port=0.  But there are several examples where the NTCP transport is published with no IP address.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        what's wrong with transports with port=0? 
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        It only means it's not reachable
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        I'm just saying that be a possible explaination for the error dr|z3d is seeing.
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        An unreachable transport without IP address or port published, making an inbound connection.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        port=0 is not legal
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        zzz: Fair enough, but I see several examples in the wild.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I assumed they were buggy i2pd forks, but if stock i2pd is publishing them that's a bug
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        java may even ban them, not sure
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        no I don't publish port = 0 at least since we started publishing caps 4 and 6
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        the problem is
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        So, when you're firewalled, are you supposed to publish a normal NTCP address, and let the SSU transport be the indicator to the rest of the world that you are firewalled?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        before we didn't have these caps
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        and had to pubslish enpoint regardless if reachable or not
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        NTCP or NTCP2?
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        orignal: That question for me?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        NTCP2
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        if firewalled it's published with caps 4 or 6 and s only
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        if not no caps but valid enpoint and i
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        SSU is more complicated
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        So, in that case (when you are firewalled), you publish NCTP2 without IP address or port.  So port=null instead of port=0?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        no port at all
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        only caps, s and v
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        for NTCP2
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        orignal: When I see a router with "Port: 0", it's always on the SSU transport.  You're saying that i2pd shouldn't do that?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        newer version
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        that publish caps with 4 or 6
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        I'm looking at a router right now (LUB8) that is showing version 0.9.54, that is apparently firewalled.  It's IPv4 SSU transport (with caps B4) is showing Port: 17059.  It's IPv6 SSU transport (with caps B6) is showing Port: 0
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        orignal: So not a vanilla i2pd router?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        shouldn't be
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        let me check
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        it it shown 0 it's bug
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        speaking of 0
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        0) Hi
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        hi
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        hi
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        what's on the list for today?\
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        SSU2 status
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        idk and zab are on the road
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        status is 1)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I'll add 2) response to SSU2 termination (mentioned last week)
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        where is everybody?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        NYC for HOPE
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        nice
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        idk said it was good, zab told me it wasn't
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        anyway
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        NYC or HOPE?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        HOPE
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        NYC is never good in my opinion ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        not in this heat. but zab lived there for years, I don't think he has anything against it
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        anyway
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        1) SSU2 status
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        my turn I guess
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        so I have implemented introducers
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        chasing minor bugs still, they're getting more rare
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I thought the remaining troublemaker was p~8- but ai see a couple more
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        pretty low frequency though
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I guess after proper MTU
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I'm about to start taking a look at my data phase resending, I think I have some problems
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I need to looks at it too
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        maybe MTU or maybe can't handle session confirmed fragmentation at all
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        because I need to update Ack block that I don't do
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        4 weeks to the release, so I really want to chase the last problems down
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        that's it for me, go ahead
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        so
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        1. I have implemnetd introducers
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        do you see any problem with i2pd router publishung SSU2 introducers yet?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I haven't looked. Does it work on your side?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        will start testing soon
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I cann't fall to "Firewalled" state yet
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        unfortunately peer test works too good for SSU2 ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        lol please do your testing before you ask me to do it :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but will try to simulate it
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I don't ask you
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I ask you if you see any problems
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I saw some problems from others and fixed them
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        what router hashes are publising introducers, and I'll look
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        any of them
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I remeber one started with b5
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        sometimes R4SAS's
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok if you see any let me know
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I'm going to publish mine explicitly
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        MNcW
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I have a list of about 40 SSU2 i2pd, don't see any b5
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I will let you know
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        iNmq might publish now
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        thanks. any other SSU2 status?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I started replacing SSU by SSU2
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        did it on 2RRY
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        works well so far
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        how are you doing on MTU changes/fixes?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        right now every ipv6 address will contain MTU for both SSU and SSU2
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok. 1500 is default for SSU2, so you don't have to put it in there if 1500
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        didn't have time to implement a code for ipv4 mtu detection
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but can I?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        sure, it's fine
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        just a few wasted bytes, no big deal
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I think so too
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        working on fragmented messages
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        to not fill max payload if possible
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but deduct some random bytes
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        also implemented reduced number of Ack tanges if need to fit into one message 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        nice
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        hope to porduce less fragmenetd messages
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but this morning issue
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I'm a little confused
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        about 1313 and 60 frgegments
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        huh?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        the main problem it was I2NP messages with RouterInfo
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        <orignal> 07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Block type 12 of size 5
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        <orignal> 07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Ack
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        <orignal> 07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Block type 4 of size 1313
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        <orignal> 07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: First fragment
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        <orignal> 07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Block type 5 of size 60
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        <orignal> 07:41:26@853/debug - SSU2: Follow-on fragment
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I mean this one
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        the message size was 1373
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I missed that, I was disconnected for a couple hours this morning
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I'm pretty sure it could fit it it was compressed
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I rememebr you said you never send RouterInfo block
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but I2NP messages intead
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        right
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        maybe time to change it?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        for now
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        seconds fragment of 60 bytes for RI
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        compression would help
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        well, a database store message of a RI is compressed, right? so not too much difference?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        what compression level do you use there?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        as I remeber medium not high
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        60 bytes matter
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yeah I think it was 3
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes, but 9 would produce 60 bytes less easily
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yes, 3
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I'm not sure I evern compress RI in database store
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        just no compression
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        9 is about 4% smaller and 50% slower than 3 in my tests, but I can't remember what data I tested it on
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        anyway, please think about such option
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        if might reduce number of packets
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        sure
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I have a proposal to reduce compressed RIs by hundreds of bytes, but I don't think we've talked about it
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        4% is around 60 for 1300 bytes ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        about padding?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        we did talk
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        oh yeah, we did, I forgot
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        it was zlatin's idea
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        well it might work ofc
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        a next step
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yeah, we worked on it together
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I have a router out there with it enabled
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        anything else on 1) SSU2 status?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        and how much the improvement?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        sec
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I think that's all from my side
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        it's like 300 bytes
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        2) SSU2 termination response
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        so around 25%?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        we said we'd think about it
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes, I promised to make this list but didn't have time
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        it's a fixed ~300 bytes savings
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no not the termination codes list
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        asumme RI size like 1500
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        the response to termination: an ack, another termination, or nothing
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        oh yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        tremination protocol
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        so we have a code 1: Termination received. I think that's my preference, it's a little easier than an ack for me
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I prefer it too
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        because with an ack, I have to remember what ack number I'm looking for
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        we send it back to every termination, but 1
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        let's do it
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        just to review:
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        QUIC says wait around for a while after closing. Whatever what you get, send another close
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        the problem is "for a while". If you get a 'termination received' you can stop waiting
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I do it already
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        if I'm in closing state I send termination again
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        as we discussed
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I haven't done any of it yet
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        but I think we're in agreement. I'll update the spec and try to code it, lets see how it works
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        closing state might be up to 30 seconds
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        one problem is now you have to decrypt the packets you get after closing, right? so you can see if it's a 'termination received' ?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I decrypt as data packets
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok. I promise I'll update the spec this week, no promises about coding it though
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but not sure if I actully do it. will check
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        anything else on 2) ?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        anything else for the meeting?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        no
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        one more thing
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        release
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yeah
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        what are you going to enable there for SSU2?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        let's put that on the agenda for next week. I have some thoughts but nothing concrete yet. ok?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        fine
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        until I know how solid things are, it's hard to make a recommendation
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok great
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        because if I start replacing SSU by SSU2 for everytbody I want to make sure no network split
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        e.g. Java router will not be able to reach i2pd
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        seems too early for that
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        no
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        because i2pd's SSU is real shit
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        SSU2 is better even now
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok, let's see how it goes this week
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        thanks, happy coding/testing
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        obscuratus thank you for pointing to this bug
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        will add check for valid host/port
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        orignal: No problem.
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        will commit