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orignal i2pd uses DSA by default
orignal for compatibility
orignal well MLDSA is supported by both Java and i2pd but not officially
orignal e.g. it's not a problem to connect to zzz.i2p with MLDSA
altonen zzz i had a q about pq ssu2, specifically the HolePunch message: i2p-projekt.i2p/en/docs/specs/ssu2-hybrid/#long-header
altonen that message is sent by the Bob but the PQ connection type is selected by Alice so which version number should bob put in HolePunch
zzz yeah you're right altonen I don't think it matters
zzz I'll fixup the docs
orignal what did I miss?
zzz ssu2 version in holepunch header
orignal I though it's always 2
orignal why do you care?
zzz spec says set it to 3 or 4 but as altonen says, it's the wrong direction
zzz so I think we're all agreed, we don't care
orignal my answer is "doens't matter"
zzz any version 2-4 is ok
zzz yup
zzz just have to fix the docs
orignal because you take this version either from RouterInfo or SessionRequest
orignal specs should say "ignored"
zzz I have some low-level code that enforces 2-4 for all messages, so not "ignored", but "any version 2-4"
orignal also do you support MLDSA at zzz.i2p?
zzz right now, yes I think, but not guaranteed forever, depends if I'm building with all my WIP or not
zzz I have some low-level code that enforces 2-4 for all messages, so not "ignored", but "any version 2-4"
zzz right now, yes I think, but not guaranteed forever, depends if I'm building with all my WIP or not
orignal fine just 2-4
zzz also orignal the IETF LAMPS group changed how hybrid signatures are generated so that has to change
zzz I haven't changed my code yet for hybrid sigs
zzz I did update the proposal though to match, for now, we'll see if they change it again
orignal but we don't use MLDSA
zzz you asked about MLDSA....
orignal does it currently work or I should remobve it for now?
zzz It should work right now on my routers. But I never checked anything in, and all the WIP is clogging up my git workspace, so I'm thinking about ripping it out for now to simplify my life
zzz it's probably going to be another year before IETF makes it all official
zzz pure MLDSA probably won't change but the composite (hybrid) sig stuff is really up in the air
zzz and ofc MLDSA breaks SSU2 relay and peer test because the sigs won't fit in a packet, so that's another mess I don't want to deal with. but only for RI sigs
orignal ofc we shoudln't use one for routers
orignal rigth now we are talking about destinations only
zzz yup
zzz I shouldn't have put MLDSA in prop. 169 at all, it was way too early. Didn't realize it at the time
orignal I will exclude it and reduce streaming packet siize from 8K to 3K ))