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zzz just went through two months of github issues. If anybody sees an issue that is being neglected please let us know here

zzz eyedeekay, you available to do some release planning?

eyedeekay Yes I am

zzz super

zzz we're 5 weeks in, 13 weeks would be May 11, but we have this irritating ISJ bug. What are your thoughts?

snex if i set floodfill=true in router.config, does i2p (vanilla) live-reload that file and turn on always floodfill

snex ?

snex sorry wrong room

zzz it will reload in a few minutes snex, but if you do it through the UI it will happen faster

zzz right room for answers ))

eyedeekay Week of May 11 or May 18 was going to be my suggestion. I like the 18th myself

snex ok thanks that explains it then... so im having this problem on both plus and vanilla when im on floodfill mode and my network connection gets overloaded despite my bandwidth limits. this only started happening after this attack

zzz eyedeekay, we have rave reviews on -4 though. Could you put the apk you built up on the play store to buy us some time?

zzz android would get PQ NTCP2 but it seems to be working fine

eyedeekay Yeah I can make that happen, I'll do Maven too to make sure F-Droid picks it up

orignal zzz, I tried to connect to 2RRY with 4 and it works

orignal your turn now

zzz guys let me finish with eyedeekay and I'll get back to you

zzz eyedeekay, I was thinking more like mid-late April to get the ISJ fix to everybody, and make up for the very long cycle last time

snex im in no rush

zzz orignal, any preferences on a release date?

eyedeekay I could do week of April 27 but it'll be tight for me, my lease on my apartment ends April 30 and there's a good chance I'll be moving

eyedeekay But I can move the week before

zzz 4/20 would be 10 weeks, 5/4 would be 12, or if you're going to be consumed by moving the whole time I could do the bulk of the release, minus the stuff only you can do

zzz I do need to get the weblate stuff squared away soon

eyedeekay If we could split the work up a bit I could do 5/4

eyedeekay or 4/27 or 4/20 for that matter

zzz orignal?

orignal I'm not ready to answer this question yet

zzz I'd prefer to schedule for earlier and slip if necessary, how about we pencil in 4/20 for now?

eyedeekay That works for me

orignal I'm defintly available in the first week of May

orignal as I said maybe

dr|z3d 4/20, or 5/20?

zzz eyedeekay, lets get the android -4 out and see how many non-android complaints remain

zzz 4/20 drz

orignal Hitler's birthday ofc ))

eyedeekay OK. I'll do gplay tonight and get maven started

dr|z3d I must be missing something. April is next month, not 10 weeks away.

zzz I'm counting from the last release 2/9

orignal who cares?

dr|z3d shut up, orignal, you donut.

zzz as we shoot for 13 week cycles as a baseline

dr|z3d *** laughs. ***

dr|z3d ah, ok, zzz.

zzz drz, this is a dev channel, cool it please

orignal what's wrong?

zzz lets reconvene in a couple weeks, around the first of April to see how we're doing, both with issues and with weblate

zzz and make final plans then

zzz sound good eyedeekay ?

eyedeekay Yeah we can do that. Sounds like we need more time to make a coordinated decision

zzz ok great

zzz next topic eyedeekay, gitea is hosed again, serving corrupted pages with garbage and HTTP headers at the top

eyedeekay Ack I will make some time to debug that today, do you have anything to check in this afternoon?

dr|z3d gotcha

dr|z3d :)

eyedeekay Usually there's a couple periods of downtime

dr|z3d nevermind, apologies all round, I was just trying to be mildly amusing.

zzz nothing in particular that can't wait eyedeekay

zzz been a lot of activity on the www side

eyedeekay Well I've got updating gitea on my list anyway and fixing it is a dependency of that

zzz going to spend some time on the GH issues but don't expect any fixes today

zzz eyedeekay, anything else you want to discuss while we're both here?

eyedeekay No not right now just getting back to my to-do list after a couple hectic weeks

zzz ok, wb, holler if you need anything

zzz orignal, re: 2RRY testing, will try it when I have time and let you know

zzz snex, the botnet tends to overload NAT/firewalls even with bandwidth limits

snex :(

zzz you can try setting or lowering connection limits

zzz i2np.ntcp.maxConnections=nnn and i2np.udp.maxConnections=nnn on the advanced configuration page.

zzz or force non-floodfill

zzz or both

snex for now ive just left floodfill off and that fixes it

orignal no problem, I asked me on Satureday about Bob side

snex the only reason this is even a problem is my dumbass isp gave me a network termination device that doesnt support gigabit on a gigabit connection

orignal zzz, I also have another question about SSU2 padding block

orignal specs don't mention it's size

zzz snex I have a prosumer router and it still hosed it bad

orignal zzz, he might mean ONT

snex i have a good router behind their bullshit and turned it on bridge mode, but im forced to use their bullshit

orignal sometimes ISP gives you shitty ONT

zzz orignal, you mean guidelines for max SSU2 padding?

orignal zzz, guidline for padding size for non-PQ SSU2

snex yeah its an ONT - it says "network termination device" on it

snex piece of shit overheats and drops everything. its not even rated for gigabit

orignal snex why don't you ask them to replace one?

snex ive already replaced it once because one died. this is the only type they give out

zzz orignal, the only guideline is don't exceed the MTU )) I think I do 1-32 or 1-64. SSU2 does not have the bug that NTCP2 had.

orignal an adversary sees small packets and big packets

zzz snex, I had two die also, I assumed I couldn't use my own but I plugged mine in and it worked. Have you tried it?

snex no. i dont own one of these things and dont really wanna go buy one just to see if it works or not

orignal they can recognize I2P this way

zzz orignal, not aware of any reports of great firewall or RU or anybody using packet size distribution for blocking

orignal we have to think in adbvance

zzz if you'd like to develop a threat model and propose a padding strategy to mitigate it, please write it up

orignal my proposal that it always must be up to MTU

zzz there's a lot of research out there that I don't have time to read

zzz orignal, just for handshake or for data phase too?

orignal for SessionRequest

orignal data pahse is not a big deal

zzz still not sold that the non-pq handshake should be padded up to as big as the PQ handshake. I know you made that case for NTCP2. I'm not convinced (yet).

zzz really need a better understanding of the threat model and GFW/RU capabilities

zzz it's a lot of bandwidth to waste based on guessing

orignal for SessionRequest?

orignal it's rare message

zzz snex, the non-wifi gig firewall/router are under $50, but you could test with any old router you have lying around to see if it works. Just make sure to release the DHCP lease on the old one before you unplug it

snex its not a router. its some specialized bullshit for connecting to the fiber network

zzz not that rare orignal and you're talking about adding 1400 bytes to a 100 byte message

orignal not 1400

zzz oh the ONT snex. got it

orignal up to 1400

snex it goes wall phone jack -> this dumb device that overheats -> isp-router in bridge mode -> my good router -> LAN

orignal guys what's the snex's issue?

zzz sure so 700 average

snex when i have floodfill on the ONT overloads and kills my whole internet

orignal you don't torrent?

orignal how can ONT get overloaded becauase FF?

zzz you sure it isn't the router that dies snex? ONTs don't really care much about traffic afaik

snex it is 100% fkloodfill doing it. ff off = no problem. ff on = problem

orignal ONT know nothing about protocols

snex well the router is the thing that goes offline but power cycling the ONT fixes it

snex and you can feel how hot the thing is

orignal bandwidth or number of connections?

orignal I doubt it's ONT

zzz an ONT is a layer 1 device or at least pretends to be, right?

zzz snex next time try resetting the router instead

orignal just try to run a torrent and see

snex i am torrenting clown porn 24/7 but i dont think people download it very often

orignal I remeber 20 years ago some shitty routers couln't handle torrent traffic due to small NAT table

orignal but reallt is ONT overheats call ISP

orignal they must replace it

snex theyre not gonna give me anything but another copy of this shit. anyway this only became an issue after the botnet joined. i was ff for months with no issue prior

orignal another copy of the shit might work better

snex you got a lot of faith in isps lol

orignal I have 2.5Gb ONT, no overheat or other issues

snex if i call these people and start talking this stuff they wont even know what the fuck im saying

snex "ok sir please unplug and replug"

orignal just measure the temperature and tell thm

snex theyll probably ban me for using the full gigabit that they advertise

orignal why?

snex because thats how shit works in america

orignal it's not thier business how you use bandwidth

StormyCloud snex, you dont happen to be using att fiber for things?

snex no it was centurylink but i guess they got bought out by quantum

zzz snex, or put your ONT outside in the cold like orignal does

StormyCloud ah that sucks, worth looking into but att forces you to use their crappy router causing double NAT. Some folks figured out how to extract the private keys off the router and put them on your own router bypassing their unit entirely

orignal or use a fan

zzz yeah some shittly little USB fan

snex lol i live in las vegas

StormyCloud RIP, need a straight up AC for that unit lol

zzz couple months before it gets hot still

snex its 78 right now

orignal guys. you should move to canada ))

orignal 8 months of cold ))

snex id move to mongolia if they let me take my guns

orignal ha ha

zzz around here they put ONTs in garages where it probably gets up to 110 in there

orignal -9 today night ))

zzz ask them if they have any other ONT models that can take the heat

snex just fix the floodfill going over my limits =P

orignal then how come my ONT doesn't overheat

orignal I my traffic is like 10 Tb a month

snex yours sounds like a device that actually supports gigabit

orignal as I said 2.5 Gb

snex like if you google mine it literally tells you it doesnt support gigabit lol

snex and these morons roll it out because they know no customers actually use that much

orignal some Nokia

zzz its not going over bandwidth limits, not by much, but it's not exact

zzz turn the limits down until it's happy

zzz and ask them for a better ONT, they usually have a couple different models but won't give you the good one unless you ask

orignal also he should keep in mind that router might have small NAT table

orignal should be set to 16K

snex why would the botnet attack make that fill up

orignal because too many connections

zzz they are VERY chatty

orignal R4SAS compained to

orignal o

orignal that his router's NAT table reached 16K

zzz orignal, tried to connect to 2RRY, wasnt working and can't figure out why, but then you connected to me with version 2

zzz same thing on another router, you're connected to me with 2

orignal thanks

orignal will check

orignal ok. I see the problem, wrong MTU