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zzz are you the bittorrent guy from reddit?

theoddone I am yes.

zzz ok good, glad you made it over here

zzz lets back up a bit

zzz you're writing a i2p bittorrent client with an embedded router, right?

theoddone well I'm trying :)

theoddone I'm not embedding the router just yet, still working through using an already running router

zzz what router do you plan to embed, and what language is your client in

theoddone I've not fully decided yet, client is typescript

theoddone Working on a tauri app, so the rust router is maybe likely.

zzz and right now you're using SAM, correct?

theoddone well I was using SAM for the torrenting, but I've writing a basic i2cp client so that I can utilize the dht

zzz what router are you using now?

theoddone i2pd and the java router both

theoddone I started w/ i2pd as it distributes binaries that I could distribute w/ the tauri app, but easier to debug w/ the java router as I can add logs and recompile/restart

zzz so you're kindof at a crossroads right now

theoddone after I get dht working I'll probably take a look at emissary

theoddone how's that?

zzz you need datagrams and streaming on the same session

zzz option 1) SAM v3.3, not supported by i2pd or emissary, you're locked into java router

theoddone well I'll probably switch over to i2cp entirely, just taking it a step at a time

zzz option 2) I2CP, you need to write both a I2CP client lib AND a streaming lib.

zzz there are exactly zero streaming libs out there

theoddone 🤔

theoddone streaming can be done over i2cp right?

zzz client lib pretty straightforward, I know eyedeekay pointed you to his old go lib, and you have the java lib to peek at

zzz yes ofc

zzz socket -- streaming -- i2cp -- router

theoddone I was using this previously for sam - npmjs.com/package/@diva.exchange/i2p-sam

theoddone ^ but pretty sure I could only dial to others, they couldn't dial to me.

zzz in java it goes socket -- sam -- streaming -- i2cp -- router

zzz in i2pd it's socket -- sam -- streaming -- router (no i2cp in the middle)

zzz we were talking to the rust router guy about possibly pulling out his streaming impl as a lib

zzz but he doesn't have any i2cp client-side code

zzz anyway, that's your crossroads, sorry for the bad news

theoddone ah no worries, will cross that bridge when I get to it

zzz nobody's done really anything with SAM 3.3 before, other than some lib support

zzz libtorrent doesn't sound too enthusiastic about it

theoddone Can't use sam 3.3 w/ dht any way right?

zzz wrong. that's the whole point of 3.3, to enable udp + tcp on the same session

zzz but nobody's actually done it, up to now

theoddone Looking at the docs here:

theoddone geti2p.net/en/docs/applications/bittorrent

theoddone ^ it mentions i2cp specifically

zzz sure.

zzz if you have any rust skills, you might want to collaborate with the rust router guy, perhaps there's a solution there somewhere

theoddone I don't ;_; just stumbling through

zzz so a simple i2cp client for datagrams isn't that hard, but what you didn't realize is you lost streaming when you switched from sam to i2cp

orignal zzz, I know why NSR decryption failed

orignal I haven't implemented resend properly

zzz it failed for me because of similar issues on my side, not because of your issues

zzz I exploded before I tried to decrypt it...

orignal wrong size basically

orignal and we need to save encrypted enpasulated key for follow on MixHash

orignal because we apply this MixHash after tag

zzz yup, it's a little tricky

zzz theoddone, I recommend you abandon I2CP for now, go back to SAM, work on 3.3 support, enable DHT if router supports 3.3, start testing with emissary, and when you get 3.3 working with java, start lobbying emissary to support it, and embed emissary

zzz I think that'll be the most promising path

orignal how is DHT related to sam 3.3?

orignal in mean time fixed NSR