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                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        let's see
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        the key is PERCENT_LIMIT
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        lower is stricter
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        we agreed to 3%
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        as I said, the limit is around 20 tunnels in 220s in cannon. too lax you think?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        if you look further down that commit you'll see that PERCENT_LIMIT is reduced.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        in some cases, to lower than 3%
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok, I can't figure that out, what is it for fast routers?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        3.3%
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        unless you're running with >=8 cores and >= 1024MB
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        then it's 5%
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        so to all intents and purposes, 3.3%
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        ok, not terrible, but we agreed on 3% after seeing that 6% wasn't strict enough, so not sure why all that extra is necessary
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        but apologies, didn't see the reduction code
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        no problem at all. if you're happier, I'm happy :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        point is, take care not to let stormy's big fleet of fast routers contribute to this issue
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        of course, that guided my thinking when modifying the above.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        okey dokey
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        not sure what's going on with the 'new routers' chart but perhaps somebody has time to investigate, I don't right now
                    
                
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        been seeing spikes in known routers for a while now.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        that graph, however, looks more like a gradual incline.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        (or not-so-gradual)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        usual three options are: new bundled application, new publicity, or attack
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        eyedeekay, any ideas?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        there's  darknetlive.i2p/post/i2p-the-invisible-internet-project-5978d407   but I doubt that's caused the ramp. might be wrong.
                    
                
                
                    
                        weko
                    
                    
                        i belive this attack because i have transit tunnels with big traffic
                    
                
                
                    
                        weko
                    
                    
                        50300mb
                    
                
                
                    
                        weko
                    
                    
                        50-300mb
                    
                
                
                    
                        weko
                    
                    
                        sometimes this 'waves' happen
                    
                
                
                    
                        weko
                    
                    
                        with big num of this tunnels
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        Re: spike in new routers:  For my part, I've noticed a large number of entries in my logs for "Picked IPv6-only or unreachable peer for IBGW" that seems to coincide with the periods where the whole network is suffering from poor Exploratory build success.
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        A can't precisely say the proporation, but when I spot check these routers, I see many that are both unreachable, and don't even have introducers.
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        Either way, we don't track the IP address of unreachable routers.  I don't know it's a problem, but if I think suspiciously, there's nothinig to stop a single IP from spawning 100s or 1000s of unreachable routers, and we wouldn't know.
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        Nothing wrong with unreachable routers, but do we screen out unreachable routers without introducers when building exploratory tunnels?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I don't think there's any way to use an unreachable router without introducers, obscuratus, but temporary banning might be something to consider.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        or just go for a straight-up session ban.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        or maybe they're already caught by temp bans under "unreachable on any transport".
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        dr|z3d: It might just a timing problem.  They had introducers when they were selected for an exploratory tunnel, but by the time I checked my logs, the new RI no longer had introducers.
                    
                
                
                    
                        obscuratus
                    
                    
                        But, no point in banning them, just don't select a unreacheable router without introducers for tunnels.