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                        zzz
                    
                    
                        dr|z3d, here's an offering for plus - see warnings in commit msg -  git.idk.i2p/i2p-hackers/i2p.i2p/-/merge_requests/66 
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        looks good, when are you intending to merge it into trunk?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        maybe early next year? I need to back it up with a formal proposal and put it on the #ls2 agenda
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        as much as I'd like to take it early, that's an invitation to flag all i2p+ routers :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        orignal has tossed out some pretty radical alternatives and I need to convince him they're orthoganal
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        up to you
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        there's a few ways you could go, you could hide it behind a config option, or take only the dest part not the RI part, or just test it locally
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I wonder if we'd want to rekey the network, just to hide the new installs...
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        something worth considering
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        if everyone gets a smaller RI, then it might be worth it.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        what's the downside? everyone effectively becomes a new router?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        aka the network loses its memory.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        a little code, a little hassle. Doesn't have to be fast if main goal is simply to provide some cover
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        rollout as per ssu2, 1 in x chance of rekeying kinda deal?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yup
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        as we've done twice before, SHA1 -> ECDSA -> Ed25519 routers
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        if it was ready it could be done to coincide with updates to ssu2, ie both at the same time, but I guess you need orignal's buy in first?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yup. won't be in 1.10
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        or do you? it sounds like compressed RI's will work fine on the network as is?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        its all backward compatible
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        don't know why you don't just merge to code now then.. yolo it :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        not going to yolo over his quite persistent objections / alternatives / musings
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        oh, orignal's not convinced yet. 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I do have one yolo router out there
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        well, you've been testing it for months, so I guess it's all looking good from where you're sitting, no?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        right
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        any noticeable perf improvements, or they're too marginal to observe?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        wouldn't even know how to measure, but the calculations are in the checkin commment
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yeah, I guess you'd also need a sizable chunk of routers all talking compressed RI in order to get any idea of the perf benefits
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        streaming handshake is probably a much bigger win than RI. But the RI helps both database stores and NTCP2/SSU2 handshakes
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        well, not seen much blowback from orignal lately, so it might be worth seeing where his thinking's at. would be good to see the feature in 2.0 :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        2.0 with SSU2, optimized handshakes and RIs.. makes a rekey all the more palatable.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        you're trying to convince me of a different interpretation of i2pd's stance? pls review  zzz.i2p/topics/3279
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        let's see what you're linking to there...
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        orignal seems to be smoking an entirely different pipe..
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        doesn't look like he's got a proposal in that pipe, either :)