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                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        zzz: minor to the point of "who cares?" but you're mixing cases for Alice and charlie all over. I'd suggest capitalizing names and sticking with it :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        lol
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        glad it tickled you :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        any more serious complaints?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        no. you're good.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        any ETA for when SSU2 peer testing can be switched on? 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I got it working an hour ago but it's going to be real tough to have it kick in on the live net
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yeah, figured it would be a while yet before you're confident enough to go live with it.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        because Capital A Alice must randomly pick a Capital B Bob that is connected SSU2 and Bob must have a capital C Charlie also connected SSU2 but is not connected to Alice
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        so it's as much a question of numbers as anything else?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yup
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        and in the absence of enough ssu2-enabled peers? things break, or they carry on regardless?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        in theory the test result is "unknown" and everything carries on
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ok, what's the worst case scenario?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        hopefully, just errors in the logs
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I mean, in the event of yet-to-be-discovereg bugs surfacing? router crash?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        havent seen anything worse
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ok, so it seems to be that you could probably take it live round about now and just wait for more people to opt into ssu2?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        if that's likely to help with testing, at least.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        code-testing, I mean.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I think I'd rather wait until i2pd is ready to test
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        they're working on relay which I havent started yet
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ok, sounds reasonable enough. can't be too long to wait, then, orignal seems to be motoring along.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        so we're planning on meeting in the middle in a week or two
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        is orignal still planning to ship ssu2 on in the next release?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        same as us. in there but off by default. they don't have any dev/test branches afaik.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ok. could be a good time to announce latest progress on the forum, get more people interested in enabling. we're still a little light on the uptake it seems.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        eyedeekay1: receive !recieve :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        eyedeekay1, zlatinb, misspelling or not, why a whole paragraph about bundles in the main feed? seems irrelevant and could be confusing to people
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        also, I thought the issue was in java 15-18 but you're recommending "below Java 14"
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        bit of a strange intermittent issue you might have an idea about, zzz. remote console access occasionally locks up, "Input stream closed" is reported in the console logs.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        router remains functional, just no console access.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        apparently it's a client -> server issue, though I can't figure out what the issue is.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I have a feeling the same issue occasionally shows up for hosted sites.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        remote meaning SSH or tunnel?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ssh
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ssh access otherwise a.ok
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        just to confirm, I closed the ssh session and opened a new one. issue persists.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        so once it's stuck it's stuck for good?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        looks like it, it's been over 1/2 hour since I haven't been able to get in.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        it may come back, not sure. if it's the same issue as with hosted sites, it resolves after a while. haven't seen it much, so can't say if it's a terminal issue with 100% confidence.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        two ideas: 1) deadlock; 2) open files ulimit
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        $ ulimit -n
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        65535
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        I was looking at the console logs, let's have a look at the wrapper logs.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        no deadlock. router's functioning normally other than no access to console. services still being served etc.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        biab
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        thread dump to be sure
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        can I invoke a thread dump from the command line?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        i2prouter dump
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        thing is, in all other respects the router's behaving as expected, sites still being served, router logs indicating nothing amiss. so I don't think it's a thread lock issue, but I'll give that a shot.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ok, your hunch was right. there is a jetty deadlock.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        you want to take a look, zzz?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        sure, unless you're going to fix it. it's not gonna fix itself ))
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        :) you want the whole dump?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no, just the deadlock part at the bottom, as usual
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        here you go, let me know if you need more:  cake.i2p/view/5i0nr3HkCA_aoyTI2lj8T4GgPkpBDeQIP0XnGaGib_O1atigphl8/5i0nr3HkCA.txt  
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        jetty version?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        current, no diversion from upstream.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        you have a console password set?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        on that box, yes.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        it looks like it's hung up in the authentication
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        it's happened more than once?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yeah, not the first time, though I don't remember when it was it last happened. more frequently are web services becoming inaccessible, not sure if that's related.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        doesnt look like it would be related to password authentication
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        true. 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        disabling password would probably be a workaround
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yeah, wouldn't be happy with that, password is there for a reason :)
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        it's not frequent enough to be a hear tear-out issue, but it's annoying when it happens.
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        *hair
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        it's pretty far down the stack from any of our code, so unless we've configured the authentication wrong, we'd have to look for a fix in 10.x and backport it
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yeah, if the auth was wrongly configured, it would probably have turned up issues before now, no?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        not sure if this is on the money:  eclipse.org/lists/jetty-users/msg05909.html 
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        about as close as I can find, issue wise, when searching for 'jetty 9.3 authentication issue'
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        please open an issue on our gitlab and include the stuff from the pastebin because this doesn't look fast or easy
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ok
                    
                
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        sorry it's not more descriptive, not really sure how much more info I can convey.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        the problem is clear, and the problem is it isn't our problem, but we'd have to pay them to make it their problem
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        yeah, I hear you. maybe if it was an issue in whatever they're working on now (11?) they'd take an interest.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        that avenue doesn't work with them
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        oh, ok, sounds like you've had previous dealings with them and it wasn't all ponies and rainbows.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        just that you can't trick them into working for free
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        on old versions
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        right, I was suggesting that _if_ the issue was with 11, and we were using 11, they'd be more inclined to want to fix it. as is, 9.3 is dead to them I suspect.
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        sure, if you reproduce it on 11, they'll fix it in 11. you can't trick them into attempting to reproduce it on 11 or doing any research themselves
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        *nods and smiles*
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        on a parallel not, are we due an upgrade to 9.4 soon, given debian's now on 9.4?
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        *note
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        9.4 requires java 9, that's why we bundle 9.3, and we include patches in debian to work with 9.4
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        ah, gotcha
                    
                
                
                    
                        dr|z3d
                    
                    
                        another jetty/i2ptunnel aside:  jvmbrotli.com looks interesting