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                        orignal
                    
                    
                        can a range be 0 0 ?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        why?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        let me explain my problem
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        no point, and that's what the spec says 
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I need to resend a packet and and to replace Ack block to current one
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but current block is shorter
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        "Range nack and ack may not both be zero"
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        and I can't insert padding block in the middle
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        how about put ack block after the data and then make the padding block bigger if the ack block gets shorter?
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I don't want to move data block
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        ofc I can move it
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but was looking for a simplier solution
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        because an ack block could also get longer than before, so that gives you the most flexibility
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yeah that's what I recommend. I put ack after data, because it's easier to calculate how much room is left for acks
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        nope, I;m wrong, I do put acks first
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        yes, I though Ack block must be first
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        if new ack block is longer it's not a problem we can shrink it
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I don't think there's any ordering requirement for ack blocks
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        btw, what's wrong with padding block in the middle
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        in finance they do it all the time
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        like few paddings in a message
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I guess the idea was to not waste time processing the padding until the end. We put that in for NTCP2
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        but you're right its not really a problem
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I'm deep into research on path challenge/response and connection migration, and I'm going to have some recommendations soon
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        nice
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I'm working on transmision window and RTO calculation now
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        great
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        that's was always the problem with SSU1 because it floods the network someimes
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        instead queueing up
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yup
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        could be a lot of work and testing to get right... we've been working on it, off and on, for 5-10 years
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        my short recommendation for connection migration:
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        path challenge = PING
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        path response = PONG
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        implement the easy part (PONG) before the release, that will allow us to develop the hard part (PING and state management) after the release
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I'm doing it the same way as I do for streaming
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        just tell me what to do with path challenge block and I will do
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        great, thinking through it and documenting it now. As usual, QUIC has good guidance but it's overly complex, trying to make it more simple and sane
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        I'm seeing a port change on SSU1 like once a minute across a thousand sessions, and I don't handle IP changes at all
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        added some logging to see if it ever happens on SSU2, nothing so far
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        symmetric NAT?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        not sure if that's the right term, but the port mapping in the NAT times out, and so then another packet goes through, and it comes out on a different port than before
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        we try to ping frequently if we think we're natted, to keep the same mapping, but sometimes the timeouts are really short
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        and of course I don't know what i2pd does about it
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        i2pd recognizes by endpoint in SSU1
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        but in SSU2 we use ConnID
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        and that's right I should update endpoint when it changes
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                         Migrate! 61 byte packet from 192.181.7.4:16130 for 192.181.7.4:61638 lEKIIc 
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        first one to hit my log
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        what's that?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        SSU2 router that changed port
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        what is in RI?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        firewalled
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        Java?
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        it's clear why it's firewalled
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        becuse it still believed it's 16130
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        actually other way around. started as 61638, then I got the packet from 16130
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        I'm wondering what was in peer test
                    
                
                
                    
                        zzz
                    
                    
                        found a i2pd router with a route48 address and a 1280 advertised MTU
                    
                
                
                    
                        orignal
                    
                    
                        what was the prefix?