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                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Hi
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Dude
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        RetroShare sounds fucking amazing!
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        There's even RetroChess xD
                    
                
                
                    
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                        RetroChess as plugin.
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Oh
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Plugins sound dangerous
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Is chatting E2EE, too?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        It says that mail is, but not for messages
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        At least on the home page
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        direct chat to people? yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        there's also group chats
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        So if I message someone and give them government secrets(as an example) - we safe?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        i'd recommend you create a unlinked/anonymous identity in RS before that, so the other person wont know from which node it is
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        o.o
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Oh like a separate tunnel?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Like the web-site recommends?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        no, you get a identity with your node. but that one is obviously linked
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        you can have multiple identities. theres also unlinked/anonymous ones (not signed by your node GPG key)
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        those become "distant identities" for others, they wont know on which node the identity is on
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Obviously. So like a Guard relay in Tor circuits that remains the same for a longs time?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        That is great
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Is there some documentation or something like that?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        on that
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        I'd like to know more.. I'd rather secure myself, then do shit, as opposed to doing shit and being stupid, then learning of your mistakes in prison or something xD
                    
                
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Wtf, a retroshare link??
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        But that's I2P specific, no?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        no
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        0.o
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        You were talking about RetroShar?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        yes
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Huh?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        WE were talking about retroshare :D
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Does I2P not have such things?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        I know ;(
                    
                
                
                    
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                        I2P is router.
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        in i2p you can create server/client tunnels
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        when you install RS, i recommend you dont use the automatic SAM/BOB variant
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        and dont use java i2p, its slow and painful :D
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        RS can use clearnet, Tor or I2P as transport. With a bit of hacks even other networks
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        The winblows RS even bundles tor by default AFAIK (cant confirm)
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        SAM/BOB VARIANT? XD
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        I use C++
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        I do not use spyware
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        No matter what software you use on Spysoft Shit-wins - you cannot be secure
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        The "hacks" worry me a little
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        no, SAM/BOB < i2p APIs
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        when you configure RS for hidden service, you can either create the server tunnel manually (preferable) or with that shitty and broken automatic one
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        i dont have winblows
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        And the shitty and broken automatic ones are - SAM/BOB ?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        The APIs
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        ?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        no, the RS implementation that is using them is broken/sucks
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        hence -> configure your hidden host manually
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Is that auto-thing ON by default?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        If not - I just won't enable it and create my shit manually (prefered - you get to know more, and knowledge is mostly good to have)
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        when creating RS node, choose manual hidden
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Oky
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Thanks
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        > RetroShare birngs two ways fo transferring files: * direct file transfers from your friends * distant anonymous tunneled transfers
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        So the 1st option is dangerous - not anonymous?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Since in the 2nd option anonymity is exclusively specified?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        oh
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        > <Xeha> you can have multiple identities. theres also unlinked/anonymous ones (not signed by your node GPG key)
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        <Xeha> those become "distant identities" for others, they wont know on which node the identity is on
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        I guess this
                    
                
                
                    
                        Xeha
                    
                    
                        direct file transfer are faster. so if people dont know who you are on RS; its fine. all they see is that YOU are downloading X file from them
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        But if it is something illegal - gov can get you
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Correct?
                    
                
                
                    
                        Darkdik
                    
                    
                        Or do you mean directly peer-to-a-peer instead of going trough other peers? 0.o