~R4SAS
~orignal
~villain
@onon
&N00B
+Most2
+Xeha
+acetone
+r00tobo
+relaybot
+whothefuckami
AreEnn
KabaOS
Nausicaa
Vort
anon2
b3t4f4c3
karamba_i2p
nemiga
not_bob
poriori
profetikla
segfault
soos
tolik
un
relaybot
13apophis: ты не понял о чем я спрашивал или я не так обьяснил .. проехали
orignal
задача считать правильно RTT
relaybot
13apophis: я обратил внимание, потому и спросил ...
relaybot
13apophis: если уперлись в динамический расчет для РТТ.. вит что я хотел знать
orignal
ну он довольно сложный
Vort
"<onon1> RTT меняется слишком быстро, нет смысла его куда-то передавать." - как помнишь, при запросе к веб серверу, данных для надёжного расчёта RTT собирается мало. было бы удобно соседним запросом к тому же серверу обновить RTT первого запр
Vort
оса
Vort
apophis: на принимающей стороне RTT используется для определения того, насколько часто слать ACK`и
Vort
на отправляющей стороне - да, для перепосылок
Vort
"apophis: метрика крайне ненадежная" - какая тогда надёжная?
Vort
часть глюков при тестировании на локалхосте происходит из-за лимита частоты отправки ACK`ов: MIN_SEND_ACK_TIMEOUT = 2
Vort
при низких значениях RTT за время RTO не успевают прийти ACK`и
Vort
может, стоит ограничиить минимальное значение RTO по аналогии с тем, как сделано в SSU2 ?
Vort
правда, 100мс - это, может быть много
Vort
так как за один RTT может прийти 10 ACK`ов (auto ackTimeout = m_RTT/10;), то предлагаю поставить MIN_RTO = 10 * 2
Opax
It seems like some websites do not work over SAM (for example, <http://identiguy.i2p/>). Why is that? Is there any known bugs related to this? I am using i2pd version 2.48.0.
Vort
Opax: try i2cp.leaseSetEncType=4,0
Opax
Vort: What does it do?
Vort
allows for encryption type 4
Vort
just try to add it to SESSION CREATE
Vort
if site starts working, then problem solved
Vort
if not, then something else is wrong
Opax
It seems like it fixed it. Thanks. But why does that need to be added?
Vort
because of compatibility reasons SAM uses old encryption until told to use newer one as well
Opax
Will adding that setting made it incompatible with other websites, or should it work with all with that setting?
Vort
4,0 means both types will be supported
Vort
so all sites should work fine
Opax
I see. Thanks.
Vort
реализовал идею onon с расчётом минимального RTT из пачки для стримов:
Vort
и поправил зависание стрима при смене туннелей (надеюсь, на сей раз правильно):
Vort
(последний коммит основан на ветке с двумя предыдущими)
Vort
тестировал пока что только на локалхосте, скоро буду на основном узле проверять. так что могут быть баги
Vort
ещё один коммит. ждать 18 секунд - это лишнее:
orignal
и что получилось?
Anonymous
Vort: thanks for the above conversation.. Opax was helping me with writing e-mails to qBittorrent/libtorrent, but he seems to have the knows, time and wanted to figure it out more on his own accord, so I thank you both
Anonymous
Vort: according to github.com/arvidn/libtorrent/releases your change should be in libtorrent 2.0.10.0 which I'm using.. do you think libtorrent-rastebar 2.0.10.0 is the same?
onon
Я что-то не могу понять как стрим обрабатывает NACK-и.
onon
if (nacked) пишет а лог и что дальше? continue;
relaybot
13apophis: Guys, xmpp.ilita is going to be relocated to freebsd "selfhost facility" in 24 hours. I will NOT backup accounts, groups, history and so on. It is up to you to reregister / create rooms / icons / etc.
orignal
собери транк
Anonymous
Vort: any reason why/how a SAM session would drop most traffic to <kb/s after like 10-40 minutes?
Anonymous
Opax: says that it doesn't sound like qBittorrent/libtorrent issue
Anonymous
And I do use the libtorrent 2.0.10.0, in which you set i2cp enctype to 4,0 (not sure how that's relevant, since qBittorrent uses SAM not i2cp as Opax seems is relevant)
Anonymous
If you want I can share with you bigger description
Anonymous
Some torrents for some reason seem to continue downloading successfully for many hours
Anonymous
And restarting qBittorrent makes it so torrents work again
Anonymous
What do you think might be at fault here? qBittorrent? libtorrent? i2pd SAM?
Anonymous
libtorrent uses SAM, does it somehow need i2cp enabled, since Opax for some reason mentioned it?
Anonymous
This is all stupid, why does qBittorrent not have --log??!??!
Anonymous
Perhaps Opax meant value in SAM's SESSION CREATE or something
Anonymous
There seems to be a fuck-ton session-mentions in qBittorrent source, so not sure
Anonymous
Opax: I think we should still send those e-mails to qBittorrent and libtorrent
Vort
Anonymous: "do you think libtorrent-rastebar 2.0.10.0 is the same?" - yes, Rasterbar is just company name: rasterbar.com
Anonymous
oh lol
Vort
"<~orignal> и что получилось?" хз как полноценно потестировать. с чата не кидает. большинство сайтов открывается нормально. разве что заподозрил какую-то несовместимость с java, надо будет разбираться
orignal
ну неплохо
Vort
"<onon> Я что-то не могу понять как стрим обрабатывает NACK-и." я об этом писал вчера. никак не обрабатывает
orignal
если хочешь PR сделать то сегодня
orignal
завтра я уезжаю
orignal
если и буду заглядывать то изредка
orignal
стрим обрабатыват NACK-и путем перепосылки ))
Vort
"<Anonymous> Vort: any reason why/how a SAM session would drop most traffic to <kb/s after like 10-40 minutes?" lots of streams eating all destination bandwidth maybe?
Vort
"<Anonymous> What do you think might be at fault here?" most likely, i2pd. less likely, libtorrent. almost no chance qBt is related, but who knows
Anonymous
Oh, so you think i2pd is broken?
Vort
"<Anonymous> libtorrent uses SAM, does it somehow need i2cp enabled" SAM allows to specify i2cp options, no need to open additional port
Anonymous
oh really?
Vort
"<Anonymous> Perhaps Opax meant value in SAM's SESSION CREATE" yes
Anonymous
so like sam......EncType = 4, 0?
Anonymous
Isn't that the default in libtorrent (your commit)?
Vort
my commit makes libtorrent to pass this option to SAM
Vort
so no additional user intervention is needed
Anonymous
so what is not working in i2pd then?
Anonymous
there are more bugs than features, orignal
Anonymous
:(
Vort
enctype was just related to non opening websites/trackers
Anonymous
so if qBittorrent uses libtorrent with that enctpye, it should work?
Vort
if they respond, but work like shit, that's separate problem ))
Anonymous
But it doesn't
Anonymous
so it must be i2pd problem?
Vort
"<~orignal> если хочешь PR сделать то сегодня" ну раз никто не нашёл проблем, то буду делать
orignal
ага давай
Anonymous
fuck github-
Anonymous
Blinded message
Anonymous
Vort: why don't you use I2P git community or whatever eepsite?
Anonymous
I think it's Gita
Anonymous
Gitea
orignal
because the main repository is github
Vort
не пойму почему народу больше нравится тестировать уже влитые изменения. сложно собирать из другой ветки?
Vort
мне метод "влить, а потом тестировать" кажется странным
orignal
просто влом
Vort
но если иначе тестировщиков не набирается, то приходится так...
Vort
кстати, волну атаки/перегрузки 3 часа назад никто не заметил? или уже все привыкли? :)
Anonymous
orignal: can't mirror issues?
Anonymous
fck
orignal
я раз тут отвалился
Vort
надеюсь, что проблему зависания стрима при потере пакета я починил. но теперь надо бы понять, из-за чего пакет теряется
Vort
опять у меня подозрение на очень интересный баг
Vort
но сегодня уже гонять не буду, наверно
Vort
теряется один пакет внутри пачки. без как-либо предварительных лагов
Vort
просто исчезает куда-то и всё
Vort
без каких-либо*
Anonymous
Vort: so what's wrong with SAM/sessions? Github can't show issues without JS
Vort
Anonymous: as I said, I suspect SAM session can't handle large amount of streams
Vort
can you check if such correlation exist?
Vort
more streams -> less torrent speed
orignal
возможно что баг
orignal
там море багов
Anonymous
well
Anonymous
I did expect 3->16 quantity to be SUPER FAST, I'm not sure it is
Anonymous
IDK, some torrents can reach 200kb/s
Anonymous
or something like that
Anonymous
Vort: orignal why don't you install qBittorrent? Can you not replicate the issue?
Anonymous
issues* (qBittorrent doesn't continue downloading after i2pd is restarted, session is lost and it's stuck there forever, who's fault is that? i2pd's or libtorrent's?)
Vort
Anonymous: I said not about tunnels, but about streams (actual connections to torrent peers inside of SAM session)
Vort
I saw similar issue, but did not tracked it
Vort
I saw lags during name lookups
Anonymous
I don't understand
Anonymous
you mean total qBittorrent speed of all tunnels (which would be == to session speed)?
Anonymous
Vort: for me about 10-40 min after start almost all torrents go to 0kb/s
Anonymous
or 1kb/s
Anonymous
upload speed goes up down up down
Anonymous
up to normal, down to 0kb, waits, then again up
Anonymous
down is not s lucky
Vort
open SAM session in web console and you will see Streams table
Vort
and then try to understand if its size is related to download speed
Anonymous
oh
Anonymous
yeah
Anonymous
there are streams
Anonymous
I thought those were tunnels lol
Anonymous
it's size?
Vort
amount of streams in table
Anonymous
there are like 2-4 streams even if there are 0-2 peers (inactive, 0kb/s up/down) in qBittorrent
Anonymous
omg
Anonymous
wait
Vort
because of communication with tracker
Anonymous
I got 2 peers, 1 down 1 up right now, and I have like at least 10 streams online
Anonymous
oh
Anonymous
1 session and 1 acceptor
Vort
this is suspicious
Vort
why streams are alive if no sessions for them?
Vort
probably I just forgot how it should work :)
Vort
or you found yet another bug :/
Anonymous
What do you mean no sessions for them?
Anonymous
Session is gone if you restart i2pd
Anonymous
like i2pd is running and qbittorrent is running
Anonymous
you restart i2pd, qbittorrent doesn't get traffic, because old session is dead
Anonymous
this is another issue
Vort
then I just forgot how things are named there, sorry
Anonymous
not main issue
Anonymous
np
Anonymous
no problem
Vort
10 streams should not create much problems I think
Vort
when I was testing I saw hundreds of them
Vort
and most of them empty
Anonymous
problems? <10kb/s upload/down
Anonymous
ok now down is 0, most streams are gone
Anonymous
down was also ~10-20kb/s
Anonymous
now it's probably 0kb/s forever
Anonymous
Vort: do you want e-mail?
Anonymous
I wrote a shitty e-mail for qbittorrent+libtorrent devs
Anonymous
You maybe get more info from that
Vort
maybe slow speed is just because you have only 1 peer?
Anonymous
my eyes are really bad
onon
Я надеюсь, вы не собираетесь это всё в релиз пускать?
Anonymous
Vort: yes
Anonymous
But when I connect to many many many peers, streams are also like not >20 I think
Anonymous
idk
Anonymous
But now there is 0 down
Vort
you try to connect, but many peers may be inactive
Vort
did you saw "many many" active peers?
Vort
with traffic I mean (download or upload)
Vort
Anonymous: I saw your mail, but I read it only partially
Anonymous
oh
Anonymous
want again?
Vort
it's just someone needs to track/chase this problem (with low speed)
Anonymous
Here
Anonymous
Low speeds? you mean low speed for 1 stream?
Vort
I mean problem which you describe (high speed at start and low speed after 10+ min)
Anonymous
low speed? no
Anonymous
0kb/s
Anonymous
under 1 hour
Anonymous
it goes slower
Anonymous
slower
Anonymous
slower speed
Anonymous
slower
Anonymous
slow
Anonymous
very slow
Anonymous
1kb/s
Anonymous
0kb/s
Anonymous
for all torrents except 1 maybe, I tried to do it 2 times, it worked for hours, maybe it's torrent-specific? I had 2 torrents that worked 100% non-stop, so this is what confused me a lot
Vort
Anonymous: did you tried to test i2pd with my latest changes? I tried to make streams more robust, but no test results from users yet :(
Anonymous
oh
Anonymous
Well I have what's on openports.pl
Anonymous
1min
Anonymous
This is what I use
Anonymous
I'd have to compile it myself, with all the changes
Vort
there were many fixes since release
Vort
but maybe also new bugs :)
Anonymous
hmmm there are only 4 patches
Vort
so testing is needed
Anonymous
oh
Anonymous
yeah maybe also new bugs which can deanon me lol
Anonymous
I'll do testing when I buy VPS :(s
Anonymous
sorry I can't sooner
Anonymous
Too big anon-risk
Vort
ok
Anonymous
You think that those fixes fix my issue?
Anonymous
Vort: is there maybe short video explaining why I2P has to have 4 protocols/whatever: BOB SAM I2CP I2Control ?
Anonymous
Why not 1?
Anonymous
It's a little confusing to me, I don't know differences
Vort
there is slight chance of fixing and slight chance of making it worse
Anonymous
maybe some acetone video about that in English or something?
Anonymous
lol
Anonymous
Vort: test on a VPS
Anonymous
like orignal does
Anonymous
get him to test it
Vort
"<Anonymous> Why not 1?" because I2P is not perfect
Anonymous
If I2P minimizes servicable surface (place where bugs come from), then there will be less bugs and less time to waste
Anonymous
orignal: consider checking out suckless.org
Anonymous
You could maybe learn something there
Vort
people are already using all of these protocols, so removing them will create problems
Anonymous
I don't know I2P well and I don't know differences between BOB, SAM, I2CP and I2PControl, but does everyone one of them have to exist?
Vort
and also there are no single best replacement for them
orignal
отъебись ))
Anonymous
Vort: so what if it creates problmes? have backwards compatibility for some time and then less code = less bugs to fix
Anonymous
))
Anonymous
There aren't?
Anonymous
So each is required and has no replacement?
Anonymous
fuck my eyes
relaybot
13apophis: yeah
Vort
in distant future someone may create 5th, best, protocol. then, after 5-10 years, all other protocols won't be neeeded
Anonymous
5-10 years? nonono
Anonymous
such thing needs to happen within 6 months or faster
Anonymous
Less code to maintain = better
Anonymous
Because now we have all this shit features
Vort
Anonymous: imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png
Anonymous
and you and orignal can't fix them yet, maybe you will fix them in 3 months, but you waste 3 months of time maybe
Anonymous
I know about it
Anonymous
But it still doesn't change that shit can be universal
Anonymous
I was working on a net-lib, and client and server were almost same code
Anonymous
I was creating it in C, for my own game
Anonymous
I made it so it's less code, same features
Anonymous
it's better
Anonymous
if you have 10T of RAM, you don't use 10T of RAM just because you can
Anonymous
you use 1M of RAM
Anonymous
example
Vort
Anonymous: do you see with what speed arvidn improves SAM support in libtorrent? guess how long he will make transition to new protocol
Anonymous
lol
Anonymous
Same can be said for i2pd fixes
Anonymous
SAM still crashes like 1 year later
Anonymous
))
Anonymous
Just saying
Anonymous
100k SLOC < 60k SLOC
Anonymous
example
orignal
охуеть книжка скаичвается со скоростью в 3 раза больше чем обычно
Anonymous
I can't wait to see how better i2pd gets in those 5-10 years, Vort
Anonymous
Maybe we'll have speeds 5x faster
Anonymous
maybe orignal dies tomorrow, killed by the spies
Anonymous
Anyways sorry for bad words, you still do better than what I'm doing, I don't help with code at all
relaybot
13apophis: > Anonymous: maybe orignal dies tomorrow, killed by the spies
relaybot
13apophis: LOLOL
relaybot
13apophis: gosh ... you arent serious, are you ?