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_PurushottamaGuru заебали оскорбления от пидарасов вроде Былинника. я столько труда вложил, а он пургу мелет что гавнопродукт и прочее

_PurushottamaGuru совершенно неохота ничё фиксать

_PurushottamaGuru главное сам не пользуется и чтото гнусавит

_PurushottamaGuru на mvc чтоль и2пд-куте переделать

_PurushottamaGuru где-то портится мапа, а в бардаке неясно

whothefuckami _PurushottamaGuru: а чего ты такого сделал, что былинник ругается?

_PurushottamaGuru да он гонит. сам слабо разбирается, на голых понтах выезжать видимо привык с апломбами своими

weko_ _PurushottamaGuru: ну я согласен что он из мухи слона делает

weko_ До чего угодно докопается

orignal что опять случилось?

tetrimer i2pd может сам отдавать по http туннелю ответ "HTTP/1.1 400 Bad.Request"?

Vort tetrimer: скорее всего, нет

orignal нет

orignal нету там такого

tetrimer В коде HTPP.cpp такие слова есть, но вот работает ли он в туннеле ...

tetrimer HTTP.cpp

orignal это ответы парсить

orignal посмотри I2PTunnel.cpp

orignal серверный HTTP тоннель там

tetrimer Там такого не видно... :( Просто кто-то "с той стороы" отдает "HTTP Error 400 The request has an invalid header name", пытаюсь найти авторство.

diverdev это твой хттп-сервер

diverdev i2pd по хедерам не осуждает

Vort но кто-то ведь хедер попортил?

Vort лучше наверно через Wireshark локалхостовые обмены глянуть

Vort если хедер реально испоганен - то это будет видно

tetrimer Vort: Вот я tcpdump-ом снял обмен, теперь буду пинать разработчиков...

diverdev а я подозреваю что virtualhost неправильный

tetrimer Оно не на всех пакетах даже с одной сессии так ругается...

Anonymous Hi

weko_ hi

Anonymous GUESS FUCKING HWAT

Anonymous wait

Anonymous #en

R4SAS словил краш в винде

Anonymous a7a

R4SAS только хз где

Anonymous R4SAS, how are you? Why do you ignore #en?

Anonymous or.. me

orignal так надо смотреть где

R4SAS Anonymous: too busy. when I came here you often leave atm

Anonymous :(

Anonymous sorry, that must suck. Sometimes I NEED your English lol

Anonymous can you slap orignal with a few English lessons?

R4SAS what do I have to do with it?

R4SAS he is also a busy man.

Anonymous Yes, but he doesn't understand world's 1st language, man

Anonymous It's embarrassing

R4SAS this is his right

Anonymous The other day I asked him a question about I2Pd and Yggdrasil working together more closely in a way (it could just be a patch or a setting, no effort on your side probably)

Anonymous Like if Yggdrasil and I2Pd could get rid of one layer of encryption or something..

Anonymous Because shit is encrypted like 2 times, right?

Anonymous Once by Yggdrasil, once by I2P(d)

R4SAS if i remember correclty, he said that this is not intended to exclude any encryption layer

Anonymous If we could somehow remove 1 of them, shit would flow so much faster

Anonymous but I realize the two are 2 separate networks so IDK how that could be implemented/done

R4SAS because ygg and i2pd is different projects

Anonymous I know

R4SAS and owner by two different teams

Anonymous But he was so angry like I asked him to do it (which I did not)

Anonymous so I think he misunderstood me a lot back then

Anonymous R4SAS, holy shit I know

Anonymous But

Anonymous I2Pd doesn't rely on lower layer for encryption he says

Anonymous But what if it was made to do so on purpose, so some performance could be gained?

Anonymous Like in a bundle or on a specific distribution

R4SAS so what you can propose?

R4SAS disabling ygg ecryption?

R4SAS or what?

Anonymous Why do you and orignal think I'm proposing anything (is it beacuse we're in #dev?)?

Anonymous Just a mere question

Anonymous If it were possible in theory

R4SAS not possible as for me

Anonymous Like I2P and Ygg are 2 different networks that do 2 different things

Anonymous but are on the same stack

Anonymous Oh

Anonymous So then, do you think Ygg and I2P could be merger as to become a single layer instead of two like I mean handle 2 "layers"? This would exterminate the 2nd encrypting/decryption

Anonymous I realize that might not be ideal in terms of modularity and shit

R4SAS nah

Anonymous But I think the next big thing people want from I2P is speed

Anonymous Nah? :/

Anonymous Alright

Anonymous R4SAS, last main question: why the fuck is outproxy shit so fucking fast?

Anonymous Someone told me it's beacuse the outproxy is intergrated into the network much more

R4SAS which one?

Anonymous but I've been integrated and it's not nearly as fast

Anonymous R4SAS, wouldn't it be de-anon a little if I told you>

Anonymous ?*

R4SAS I think you using one of public one

R4SAS launch your service for yourself

Anonymous My main concern is the length of connections how do you call then.. because it feels like a 1 or 2, instead of the default I2P of 3

Anonymous never

R4SAS ofc

Anonymous ofc what?

R4SAS ofc public outproxies has length 1

Anonymous Lol why the fuck?

Anonymous That's lame

R4SAS rtfm their about pages

Anonymous I TRIED

Anonymous I didn't see it anywhere

Anonymous I asked weko I think, he said 3?

R4SAS ask owners in that case

Anonymous weko_, am I telling truth or lie?

weko_ about ehat

weko_ what

R4SAS dude, that is on outproxy side it is 1

Anonymous R4SAS, why? Is it as I've suspected: the outproxy sets the length of tunnels?

R4SAS not on yours

Anonymous xD

R4SAS if you set 3 or 8

Anonymous So it de-anons the outproxy, but not me?

weko_ yes

R4SAS it will be 3 or 8 on you tunnels side

Anonymous I seem to not have realized how I2P works yet :D

Anonymous R4SAS, but if it's only 1, doesn't that also put me at risk?

R4SAS watch for acetone's video on youpoop

weko_ Anonymous: outproxy is always deanoned, because you can see it of it

Anonymous YOUPOOP HAAHAAH

weko_ ))

Anonymous best name ever

Anonymous weko_, I understand that much xD

Anonymous bout if it's only 1, doesn't that make it easier for them to see it's me that's receiving that data?

weko_ as i remember also video of acetone awailable with torrent

R4SAS they must be on postman's tracker

Anonymous Especially if the next receiver is in the ownership of th same admin (say outproxy and the next is also fed's)

Anonymous R4SAS, who what?

Anonymous What does this have to do with Postman?

Anonymous oh sorry

R4SAS tracker2.postman.i2p

Anonymous Torrenting over I2P is nice

Anonymous yeah yeah

Anonymous I love it

Anonymous I once tried torrenting a 4K movie

Anonymous a fucking 4K

R4SAS when you set legth to 2, your tunnel will look like this: (writing)

Anonymous I am torrenting fucking harry potter FOR MONTHS now lmfao

Anonymous wtf

Anonymous R4SAS, sorry for you having to spend time on such retard as me

R4SAS YOU - A1 - B1 <-> A2 - OUT

R4SAS if I remember this correclty

Anonymous A1?

Anonymous xD

R4SAS 1 - your side

R4SAS 2 - outproxy side

Anonymous I see

Anonymous wait

R4SAS or just call them A, B, C

Anonymous wait

Anonymous R4SAS,

Anonymous let's say I send a "I want this piece of data" to the outproxy

Anonymous that goes like you said

Anonymous But when I am receiving, how does it look then? Also trough 2?

R4SAS nope

R4SAS YOU -> A1 -> B1 -> A2 -> OUT

Anonymous Well governments will see this as the biggest weakpoint xD

R4SAS YOU <- D1 <- C1 <- B2 <- OUT

Anonymous OUT -> A2 -> ME ?

Anonymous but you just said 'nope'

R4SAS I thougth that you mean "using same tunnel peers"

Anonymous No

Anonymous So both inbound and outbound tunnels between the outproxy and me are of the length I set, say 2?

Anonymous If no, then you just confused me again

R4SAS yes, on your side

R4SAS on outproxy side they will be length as set on their side

Anonymous > <R4SAS> on outproxy side they will be length as set on their side < ah

Anonymous wait

R4SAS if you set inbound.length = 1 and outbound.length = 2 and on outproxy side it will be inbound.length = 1 and outbound.length = 1

Anonymous so shit meets 3-3, = 6?

Anonymous 3 of mine 3 of theirs, so 6 in total lengths?

R4SAS it will look like:

R4SAS YOU -> A1 -> B1 -> A2 -> OUT

R4SAS YOU <- C1 <- B2 <- OUT

Anonymous R4SAS, I am so sorry for troubling you.. I knew this, I even watched acetone's great video..

Anonymous So either way my anonymity is just as strong as surfing non-clearnet/Tor I2P?

R4SAS total length - yes, it will be 6

Anonymous Well a little less I suppose, since they did a downer on their side

Anonymous ah

Anonymous R4SAS, that's genius

Anonymous Let's celebrate me remembering (more like getting reminded) how I2P works

Anonymous So it's like a handshake

Anonymous I have my tunnel length

Anonymous they have theirs

Anonymous and we meet and shake xD

R4SAS but total length is a bit incorrect thing to use as anonimity mark

R4SAS yup

R4SAS you build outgoing and incoming tunnels as you needed, not depending on other side

Anonymous yeah

R4SAS orignal: потом попробую понять чего не так. я до этого удалил pdb с отладкой... уже неделю как

R4SAS так что даже не получится выловить чего произошло

Anonymous I had this chat like 3 times up until now

Anonymous with weko and also I think orignal and others? grimreaper doesn't count

orignal да еше упадет я думаю

Anonymous And you were the 1st to properly explain it to me

orignal у меня тут новая идея

Anonymous I guess because you know English so well

orignal для тех кто работает через прокси публиковать код D

Anonymous I hope I remember this.. if not.. I do keep logs :D

weko_ orignal: для всех кто не принимает туннели можно D ставить

weko_ вернее - нужно

weko_ хотя вообще прокси должен просто адрес не публиковтаь

weko_ не публиковать *

orignal для таких ставится G вообще то

orignal причем уже ставится

weko_ а

orignal weko_ насчет прокси есть ньюанс

weko_ перепутал

orignal а если это SSU2?

orignal и он публикует интродьюсеры.

weko_ а, ну кстати ssu2 может

weko_ я не знаю как там прокси с udp работает

weko_ да не я думаю прокси не проблема , главное - какой по итогу пинг

weko_ может у человека прокси в 100 метрах

orignal я еще этого не сделал но собираюсь

orignal через прокси можно интродьюсер

Anonymous weko_, did you understand it now?

orignal так потому я и предлагаю публиковать именно D а не G

weko_ это я к тому что публиковать D

Anonymous R4SAS, I was like scared when connection speed went to up like 90kb/s xD so funny

weko_ D - это малые возможности типо?

orignal D типа тоннели принимает но доходяга

weko_ так может быть это полноценный узел

weko_ и прокси добавляет 10 пинга...

weko_ интродьюсры же не повод ставить D

orignal если это поноценнный узел то нечего ходить через прокси ))

orignal повод ставить D не интродьюсеры а прокси

weko_ да, ну так а если это прокси с итродьюсерами

weko_ и это нормальный узел при чём

weko_ и прокси какой нибудь на 10 мс

weko_ тогда нет повода ставить D

orignal а почему он вообще через прокси тогда?

weko_ ну может у него конфиг сети такой

orignal ну так может начать лагать в любой момент

weko_ как и с любым узлом

weko_ лаги должны ловиться профилировщиком

orignal с прокси шанс многовыше

weko_ ну не много...

orignal сам понимаешь через прокси не просто так ходят

orignal мы счас D вообще игнорируем

weko_ ну если пинг большой, так и туннели не будут строить через него

orignal idk говорил что они D на вдере ставят

weko_ проблемы пира нужно профилировщиком находить

Vort R4SAS: так глянешь проблему с CI ?