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Anonymous orignal, R4SAS I2P does E2EE, right? And so does Yggdrasil, right?

Anonymous If so, there would be a big performance benefit if encryption is say disabled on I2P (higher level networking protocol)? What about security?

Anonymous But I guess they are separate networks so shit wouldn't work as expected? Someone told me it's bloat to have e2ee a few times lol.. with which I kind-of agree

Anonymous I think GNUnet does both the low and medium and high levels of the networking

Anonymous stack? If so, that's probably where it gets some of it's advertized performance

Anonymous from

orignal dumb question

Anonymous What about the self-answer? XD

orignal NTCP2 is not only encryption

orignal it's also data integrity

Anonymous Alright, but you gotta admit that SOME shit is repeated needlessly?

Anonymous Again - I am NOT an expert like you are bro

Anonymous so some things I write will be dumb, of course

Anonymous this is why I come to you and ask

Anonymous Like you say data integrity.. does Yggdrasil do some of that? If so - is it being repeated in a way?

orignal simply speaking i2p doesn't rely on enncryption of lower-level transports

orignal reagrdless what's that

Anonymous Discussing performance here.. because some people see that as a big con and don't use I2P and/or Yggdrasil because o f it

Anonymous orignal, I know it doesn't rely on it

Anonymous but isn't that the problem?

Anonymous What if Yggdrasil and I2P were say combined?

orignal go implement it

Anonymous Separated in a way, but combined so to not encrypt/sort/repeat shit needlessly?

Anonymous orignal, I'm asking could it be done?

Anonymous Would there be a noticable performance increase?

Anonymous I am not necessarily informed

orignal dude I'm not inetersted in your "genious" ideas

orignal if you want to implement something try

Anonymous You seriously need English lessons

orignal I'm not going to do it

Anonymous I ask question, you say you aren't interested in it that thing, but I didn't ask if you were interested

Anonymous I didn't ask you to

orignal I answered you

Anonymous I asked if it can be done and if so - would performance be better (lesser latency, more kbit/s)?

Anonymous orignal, you answered worse than an A.I. would

orignal the answer is "I DON'T KNOW"

Anonymous oh

Anonymous Alright..

Anonymous thanks

orignal and if you propose somethign yoiu must do some rerearch and convince others about possible benefits

Anonymous I did not propose

orignal do your homeworks and come back

Anonymous I asked without much brain-use

Anonymous should have been in #en I guess

Anonymous > <orignal> do your homeworks and come back < I cannot right now

orignal we don't need :genious ideas"

Anonymous R4SAS, dude pls give orignal some home-schooling xD

orignal do you really think that you are the first with it?

Anonymous orignal, I don't care

weko I think it is available only with 2-side support

Anonymous Yeah

Anonymous weko, that's what I thought

Anonymous Like a "all-in-one" project that implements both in nice merit

Anonymous But separat so both have freedom to do what they want

Anonymous independence

Anonymous orignal, wants independence

Anonymous he can have it

weko Because it js 1% chance what ntcp2/ssu2 have "been encrypted" field

Anonymous orignal, doesn't want more work? good

Anonymous oh

Anonymous weko, It's just a foolish idea

orignal weko I had some discussions about this with SilkMoth

Anonymous and orignal seems to take me too seriously

Anonymous no need to take me so seriously.. and this should have been on #en sorry

weko orignal: and what you discussed specific?

orignal the realistic idea is using raw datagram there derectly through api

orignal he is going to write ygg C library

Anonymous directly*

orignal that lets you send raw datagram over ygg

Anonymous orignal, 'he' who? SilkMoth?

Anonymous wow

weko orignal: hmm, good, ygg-side support is better

Anonymous :D

orignal well he is trying his own project

Anonymous orignal, this is basically free real-estate I mean free FPS

Anonymous orignal, that's good

Anonymous independence and simplicity is good

orignal current go-ygg is not extendable

Anonymous it's Unix-like

Anonymous orignal, yeah

Anonymous I want Ygg in C

Anonymous Perhaps we see it one day

weko [14:30:33] <orignal> well he is trying his own project

weko C-lib is good for ygg improvement. For 256bit addresses, for example. Or some other stuff

orignal but it was a while ago

orignal weko #howtoygg f I remeber

Anonymous weko, what do you mean by C-lib?

Anonymous What about Ygg in C?

weko orignal: yes, I there.

orignal t.me/DomesticMoth

orignal he is a guy

weko Anonymous: C library for yggdrasil

Anonymous Not sure how lib would implement like that, but I was thinking more like an software that combines both I2P and Yggdrasil

Anonymous Like Tor Browsers combines Firefox and Tor and a few patches

Anonymous Because someone told me this

Anonymous > Says the one wasting power on a layer over layer of another layer of

Anonymous encryption networks.

Anonymous Why dont you reduce those?

weko Such feature can be done only by i2p router or ygg

weko No other ways, I think

Anonymous weko, oh

Anonymous Either way, it could at least be like a simple patch

Anonymous For those that use both

Anonymous Makes me excited

weko I guess it should be supported by both hands

Anonymous It kind-of is

Anonymous beacuse it's open-source haha