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` Не понимаю, в i2p java 4444 для http и https?

orignal так и в i2pd тоже

orignal https тоже работает

` понимаю что работает, просто смотрю на настройки одного i2p java, а там в http ssl proxy указан 4444 порт.

` http, ssl, socks*

` прокси барузера

` браузера

` Для socks'a же указывать такой же как и для https, да?

orignal нет

orignal для сокс свой

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zzz orignal, R4SAS, do you allow the 2002:: (6to4) and 2001:0:: (Teredo) IPv6 addresses? Java I2P doesn't, and I periodically see connection attempts from them

orignal yes, we do

orignal because people use it

orignal especially miredo

zzz are they windows things? I don't remember why I reject them

orignal no. why?

orignal miredo is linux

orignal and 6to4 is part of you network router

orignal you just can turn it on there

orignal the problem is that HE is not eligible for everybody

zzz Hurricane electric is for Teredo or 6to4 or both?

orignal ha ha. that's why i2p through miredo worked bad for me

orignal HE is tunnel

orignal it's third option

zzz seems like it should be last resort, only if no ipv4 or regular ipv6

orignal I needed ipv6 for testing

zzz yeah

zzz what do you mean by being "eligible" for HE? what's the rules?

orignal and I still don't have native ipv6 in this ass of the world

orignal basically you need a real IP address with some protocol

orignal better to ask R4SAS

orignal it works for my ISP and my router

orignal but it's not true for everybody

zzz can you change i2pd to prefer ipv4 if all you have is Teredo or 6to4?

orignal how do I differentiate them?

zzz if your ipv6 address is 2002:: (6to4) or 2001:0:: (Teredo), use IPv4 for outbound connections if you and bob both have an ipv4 address

orignal not only mine but also peer's

orignal will do

orignal so first two bytes 0x20 and 0x01 or 0x02

zzz 2002 is first two bytes. 2001:0 is first four bytes

orignal I see

orignal however I still have to run peer test

orignal otherwise how would I know my own IP?

zzz yeah, there's problems on my side too. We use the same isIPValid() check for everything, both picking our IP and for banning peers

zzz and right now we ban a peer if ANY ip is bad

zzz (I think, need to double-check)

orignal incluidng ygg?

orignal because it's always bad from your viewpoint

zzz yeah, maybe not, because I see plenty of ygg routers

zzz need to do more research

orignal I need to rewrite address selection code anyway

zzz you can also increase the cost for those

orignal I don't use cost at all

orignal only for you

zzz doesn't matter then

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borat я думаю там вмновны сионисты!

borat так что суди те сами братцы!

borat гетто никто не отменял

borat что евреи делаю дез информацию я лично вижу !

borat просто вижу

borat это уже перебор

borat это

borat ! идет монтаж

borat видео

borat и многое другое

borat но

borat я не живу в россии

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borat что обидно

borat а может быть и нет

orignal не засирай dev

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R4SAS он видать давно по шапке не получал

orignal он видать бухой

orignal на радостях что его кумира избрали президентом

R4SAS zzz: elagable means that you building tunnel 6in4 using proto 41 (IPv6) to PoP (point of presence), and route to such addresses can be very high

R4SAS cab be with very high ping **

R4SAS for example, for european russia closes points are Amsterdam and Frankfurt (by ping), but it is still to high - ~ 60-80 ms

R4SAS in that case better to use Teredo, where ping will be only 20 ms for example

R4SAS also don't forget about 6to4, which using IPv4 address for routing and creating address

R4SAS this is same 2002::/16 subnet

orignal I don't understand what's wrong with 6to4 and teredo at all

R4SAS zzz: btw, why you say 2002::?

R4SAS ah, I see, 6to4 too

R4SAS zzz: in that case you can block HE too, because this is tunnel

R4SAS whole 2001:470:: subnet

orignal yes, mine is 2001:470

R4SAS so, dont do such things and continue use them as is

orignal but he says 2001:0 only

R4SAS in russia only few ISP provide IPv6 to users

R4SAS Dom.ru, MTS (mobile, only if option enabled)

R4SAS and some little providers

orignal I think it's better if zzz remebers why he doesn't like these ranges

R4SAS version6.ru/isp

R4SAS только не известно на сколько актуальная информация

orignal мое мнение что ipv6 следует включать только на впс

R4SAS не...

R4SAS уже пора и клиентов сажать

R4SAS только главное чтобы роутер дрянной не был

orignal ну у меня вот нету от слова совсем

orignal и не предвидится

R4SAS ну у тебя другая ситуация)))

orignal так это во всей канаде так

R4SAS у тебя хотя бы HE под жопой точка присутствия

orignal ну да нью-йоркская

R4SAS нее

R4SAS ближе должна быть

orignal "у меня другая ситуация"

orignal пинг до нью-йокрской ниже чем до торонтовской

R4SAS Toronto, ON, CA - 216.66.38.58

R4SAS а, лол

R4SAS я такое же встретил

R4SAS на впс в варшаве

orignal просто таковы реалии

R4SAS от ДЦ OVH до центра варшавы - пинг 20

R4SAS а это всего 5 км

R4SAS сейчас уже нормально все там

R4SAS rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.324/3.719/12.611/3.864 ms

zzz yeah, blocked because of latency and connectivity problems... better to use IPv4

zzz also, bad for privacy to route traffic through a 3rd party

R4SAS in that case you would block HE too?

R4SAS 6in4 tunnel broker

R4SAS 3rd party

R4SAS ISP 3rd party too

R4SAS for your traffic

R4SAS but without ISP you can send anything

R4SAS so I dont think that make much glue about privacy

zzz maybe? I see 30 routers in netdb with 2001:470::

zzz you're right, latency is a better argument than privacy

orignal 2001:470 is HE

R4SAS 2001:470- is whole HE

orignal do you see mine among these 30?

orignal with SSU2

R4SAS with datacenters, users, services, etc etc

R4SAS and peered via BGP subnets for customers (btw)

zzz no orignal, your router only has ygg for v6 right now

orignal no. ipv6 only 2001:470

orignal another one

orignal also ygg links have more latency anyway

zzz I don't see any other SSU2 right now

zzz so is 2001:470 high latency also?

orignal idk

orignal works fine for me

orignal that router is down now

R4SAS zzz: depending on delay from client to POP

R4SAS for example from OVH VPS to HE PoP I see ping 3 ms now

R4SAS from RU I know that from MSK to Stockholm min ping is about 23 ms

zzz you can try ping4 vs ping6

R4SAS not always

R4SAS just for lulz

zzz trying to find a site that's about the same ping times for me

R4SAS # ping -4 -c 10 google.com

R4SAS rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 295.561/296.913/308.436/3.865 ms

R4SAS # ping -6 -c 10 google.com

R4SAS rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 52.999/54.643/57.740/1.601 ms

zzz google really varies for v6. yahoo.com v6 is 2x v4

zzz cnn.com about the same for both

R4SAS that's from OVH VPS, lol

R4SAS 300 ms to google via v4

orignal ping6 google.com

orignal PING google.com(yyz12s07-in-x0e.1e100.net (2607:f8b0:400b:807::200e)) 56 data bytes

orignal 64 bytes from yyz12s07-in-x0e.1e100.net (2607:f8b0:400b:807::200e): icmp_seq=1 ttl=120 time=55.9 ms

orignal ping4 google.com

orignal PING google.com (142.251.32.78) 56(84) bytes of data.

orignal 64 bytes from yyz12s07-in-f14.1e100.net (142.251.32.78): icmp_seq=1 ttl=119 time=50.5 ms

orignal the same

orignal in my case

R4SAS # ping -4 -c 10 yahoo.com

R4SAS rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 136.568/155.171/174.041/18.222 ms

R4SAS # ping -6 -c 10 yahoo.com

R4SAS rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 151.761/152.444/153.565/0.735 ms

R4SAS no difference

R4SAS ipv6 via HE

zzz so the 2001:470:: address is the HE tunneling service, right? looks like i2pd publishes 1472 MTU but java publishes 1488

zzz I wonder why we're not detecting a lower MTU

orignal sec

zzz what's the MTU on your tunnel interface?

orignal const size_t SSU_MTU_V6 = 1488;

orignal wait

R4SAS HE uses 1480

R4SAS by default

orignal he-ipv6: flags=209<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP> mtu 1480

zzz hmm. but java is advertising 1488 for it. looks like i2pd has it right

R4SAS and this is maxmal value

orignal github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/blob/openssl/libi2pd/util.cpp#L310-L362

orignal that's how we do it

orignal bsaiclly through the system calls

zzz looking at my code now

zzz public static int rectify(boolean isIPv6, int mtu) {

zzz int rv = mtu;

zzz int mod = rv % 16;

zzz if (isIPv6) {

zzz rv -= mod;

zzz return Math.max(PeerState.MIN_IPV6_MTU, Math.min(PeerState.MAX_IPV6_MTU, rv));

zzz }

zzz looks right, for a MTU of 1480, will return 1472

orignal yes, I do mod 16 somewhere later

orignal the question is why your detects 1488 rather than 1480

zzz yup ))

zzz OK I do see a few Java routers with 1472

orignal maybe one with 1488 have different settings

orignal you can specify it on HE

borat пусть джависты имеют ввиду что в туркменистане реально стали скорость резать по вечерам- обоснуя словом -

borat лимит

borat а каой лимит на адсл -господа?

borat обьясните...?

R4SAS HE limits 1480 max

borat вобщем в тм вот так

borat я казал а дальше сами как то так..

borat *** ушел пать ***

largo ## Should we assume we are behind NAT? (false only in MeshNet)

largo А если ВПСка с уникальным IP?

orignal не трогай там ничего

orignal сам разберется

largo ok

R4SAS вот как раз по этому нельзя пихать в конфиг все доступные параметры - появляются подобные вопросы