~dr|z3d
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@T3s|4
@eyedeekay
@zzz
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Irc2PGuest33877
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T3s|4_
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parabo
itsjustme
parabo
albat
parabo
dr|z3d
parabo
Ellenor
dr|z3d
paraboobies!
parabo
i just really love boobs
dr|z3d
Feel free to download and seed. Thanks in advance. :)
dr|z3d
That's the latest I2P+ 1.8.0+ update.
parabo
evolutionary theorum says boobs are buttocks like protrusions, designed to tempt men in situations when they can't get a glimpse of girls bums
dr|z3d
indeed. boobs got men off their hands and on their feet.
parabo
I find such hypothesise dumb, it's like the one that says lipstick is for making your lips look more like the lips of a happy vagina. Since they said that, I can't look my great aunt in the eye
parabo
why'd they have to say that oh why?
parabo
And I-I-I-I will always love boobs
parabo
I will always... love BOOOOOOOOOOOBS
parabo
dr|z3d, do you like boobs?
dr|z3d
on the right person.
dr|z3d
you pulled that torrent yet, parabo?
dr|z3d
> I2P+ 1.8.0+ update now available on postman.
dr|z3d
> If you're running I2P+, please download the torrent and seed for as long as you can, ideally until the next release appears. Thanks!
dr|z3d
parabo: i2phides.me new and improved, if you need your i2p fix without i2p available.
dr|z3d
>parabo: i2phides.me new and improved, if you need your i2p fix without i2p available.
Ellenor
CHARIOTS OF FIRE. I'm alive.
Ellenor
I made it home.
AmyMalik
oops, *I* made it home.
regenia
When is the I2P+ 1.8.0 going to be available? Not just the update file. I want to clean install
T3s|4
o/ dr|z3d - seeding .0+ on both rigs. I would like to help zzz with ssu2 testing, but I assume my Hidden Mode would prevent him from seeing my results when ssu2 is enabled. Is that correct? Minor nit: bump the topic to 8.0+ :D
dr|z3d
hi T3s|4.. re SSU2, I suspect with logging of SSU2 packets on the receiving server, hidden mode won't cloak your IP address, but obviously you'll remain out of the netdb so immune from netdb searches.
dr|z3d
server/router
regenia
Huh. Got the update. The router console looked fucked up. Had the clear the cache
dr|z3d
regenia: I2P+? updated from I2P or I2P+?
regenia
From I2P+ 1.7.0
regenia
dr|z3d:
dr|z3d
oh, sure, not entirely unexepected, though ctrl+shift+r can usually fix things if they look borked.
dr|z3d
that said, the main css files have a version string attached, so in theory the update should be seamless, but maybe there were big enough changes in the unversioned global.css file in your theme to require a hard refresh/cache clean.
dr|z3d
did you grab the update from postman's tracker, regenia?
regenia
It auto downloaded the update
regenia
Had the same but much worse issue, when updating from I2P 1.7 to I2P+ 1.7
regenia
dr|z3d:
dr|z3d
ok, well, for future reference, ctrl+shift+r will load the new css for the console. you may need to repeat the process for webapps.. snark, susimail etc.
dr|z3d
Also, if you don't mind, seeding the update torrent (and other related 1.8.0+ torrents when they're available) is always appreciated :)
regenia
:]
dr|z3d
> If you're running I2P+, please download the torrent and seed for as long as you can, ideally until the next release appears. Thanks!
regenia
No prob. I just built a seedbox
dr|z3d
It won't tax your system too hard, there are some _very_ fast servers hosting that bear the brunt of the uploading.
dr|z3d
And after the initial download frenzy, it tends to be fairly calm.
dr|z3d
Thanks!
regenia
👍
dr|z3d
If you find any issues with I2P+, feel free to let me know in here. Extra eyes on the console always good :)
regenia
definitely. thanks for the support
dr|z3d
you're welcome.
mesh
has anybody tried watching netflix or other streaming sites over i2p?
mesh
dr|z3d: what's the name of your youtube gateway?
dr|z3d
tube.i2p
dr|z3d
linked on /home mesh. look for the cutesy tv icon.
dr|z3d
if you're streaming netflix over the outproxy, 0 hop may get you there. any more hops, you may be out of luck.
mesh
in theory, with a trusted proxy, it could be reduced to 1 hop... netflix->outproxy->you
mesh
which would seem to be no worse than watching netflix over a vpn
dr|z3d
regenia: also, re updates, you may want to turn auto-update off and switch over to notify only. that way you won't accidentally update to standard I2P. you can also configure I2P+ to notify you of dev builds.. check /configupdate for both options.
mesh
but I was curious if anybody had actually done this
dr|z3d
more hops, more slow. if you can get away with 1 hop, great.
dr|z3d
and 1 hop is worse than a vpn.
dr|z3d
that single hop is the bottleneck. a vpn is akin to 0 hop.
mesh
It's too bad I can't tell I2PTunnel how many hops to use on a per-site basis. That seems to be the missing piece
mesh
dr|z3d: there'd be no hops between you and the outproxy assuming you both configure 0-hops right
dr|z3d
you can do the next best thing, and use foxyproxy and multiple http client tunnels.
dr|z3d
mesh: 0 hops on purokishi server, so the number of hops is your gift to configure on your client tunnel.
mesh
dr|z3d: foxyproxy lets you specify different proxies for different sites
dr|z3d
is that a question?
mesh
yeah
dr|z3d
yes, it does. you can route all .i2p traffic over the standard 3 hop tunnel, and route clearnet traffic over 1 or more custom outproxy tunnels with simple rules to determine what request gets routed where.
mesh
oh yup, that's exactly whast foxyproxy does: FoxyProxy is a Firefox extension which automatically switches an internet connection across one or more proxy servers based on URL patterns.
dr|z3d
at it's simplest, rules look something like *.i2p
mesh
dr|z3d: I mean I wouldn't go that far but it's interesting that this exists. somebody from the past obviously travelled to the future and stole my idea
dr|z3d
As long as you configure a fallback in Firefox's proxy config, you're good. FoxyProxy + Tor + I2P is a good combination.
mesh
though I guess it's a bit more subtle. there are certain outproxies you might trust (like the ones you create), and those could have 0 hop. and then whenever you want to connect to certain clearnet sites you'd want to use those specific outproxies
dr|z3d
You need a fallback to handle Firefox startup, as it takes a couple of seconds to initialize the FoxyProxy extension, during which time it's not used, so Tor as the fallback handles that.
itsjustme
Hi folks
dr|z3d
Sure, you have to trust the outproxy.
dr|z3d
hi ijm
itsjustme
:)
itsjustme
How are you dr|z3d?
mesh
sdo when connecting to netflix.com or any video streaming, go through trusted outproxy with a 0-hop tunnel, but when going to other clearnet sites, do the standard 3-hop dance through any outproxy
dr|z3d
not bad, thanks, ijm, you good?
itsjustme
No, I'm still sick
dr|z3d
if that what suits, sure, mesh.
dr|z3d
ijm: stop being sick. I command you!
itsjustme
I wish that would work:)
mesh
dr|z3d: I'm thinking of a solution that would functionally replace most vpn usage
itsjustme
Idk if I've ever felt this horrible for so long
dr|z3d
mesh: you have to ask yourself what benefit would an outproxy operator derive from attempting to determine the ip belonging to traffic flows, and the cost involved.
dr|z3d
do I care about ips connecting to the outproxy? no. zero interest, better things to do with my time. and I'd need to be monitoring 3 systems currently. better things to do.
mesh
dr|z3d: yeah what I'm thinking is that outproxy operators might run outproxies out of their goodness of their hearts. same reason people run i2p routers andf tor exit nodes
mesh
all that's really needed is a tracker service that outproxies can ping and so the tracker can aggregrate a real-time list of available outproxies
dr|z3d
the only thing I care about wrt outproxy traffic is abuse. nothing else. and then it's a question of automatically blacklisting the b32 or the target hostname(s).
dr|z3d
substitute "what's needed" with "what I'd like to see" and you may have a valid point. and if you want to see something, don't wait around for it to get magically coded, do something about it yourself :)
dr|z3d
otherwise you're just another user with an inflated sense of entitlement :)
mesh
dr|z3d: the thing I like about the i2p model is that (1) outproxy operators have a strong incentive not to log anything as you said (2) it's very hard to block decentralized i2p outproxies unlike the tor network which is trivial to block eg gist.github.com/jkullick/62695266273608a968d0d7d03a2c4185
mesh
and in theory it would be faster and more flexible than tor since you could decide on a per-outproxy basis how many hops you want between you and the proxy
dr|z3d
indeed. and don't forget captchas.
mesh
oh yeah, good point, tor exit nodes bring captcha doom
dr|z3d
as for blocking tor nodes, you don't need a gitgub gist, tor themselves publish the tordns blacklist.
mesh
in theory all we need are 3 applications: an outproxy app that anybody can download to run a i2p outproxy, a tracker app that will aggregrate all the outproxies out there, and a client proxy that would be like a smarter version of i2ptunnel, i2ptunnel+foxyproxy
mesh
of course people would have to trust the centralized tracker service to give them a list of good outproxies. This would be okay because the centralized tracker wouldn't know who they were
mesh
or you could build some kind of fancy dht
mesh
but then you have to deal with sybill attack and other wackiness
regenia
dr|z3d: Hey, it auto downloaded i2p 1.8.0 instead of i2p+ 1.8.0. Before, I was on a clean installed i2p+ 1.7.0
dr|z3d
regenia: that's the part about setting updates to notify only on /configupdate :)
regenia
I manually downloaded the i2p+ update from skank. I am now on i2p+ 1.8
regenia
Oh I see
dr|z3d
if you install I2P+ with a pre-existing profile, you won't get the full benefit of I2P+'s configs.
dr|z3d
things like default subscriptions, update policy etc.
dr|z3d
in any event, notify only is the sanest policy. and the /dev/ update path is recommended for advanced users.
dr|z3d
it'll tell you how to change to that on /configupdate
regenia
I should clean install then. Thamks
dr|z3d
clean install + rename any existing settings dir.
dr|z3d
if you're on windows, that'll be in %appdata%\i2p I think. on linux it's in ~/.i2p/
dr|z3d
and for a clean 1.8.0+ install, you'll want the gitlab installer for now, that's the only 1.8.0+ installer available until I update the hosted installers.
dr|z3d
if you wait a few moments, I'll make sure the gitlab version is bang up to date.
regenia
Thats amazing. I have ample time at my hand
dr|z3d
Blinded message
dr|z3d
in English, that means gitlab is building new files as we speak. :)
T3s|4
dr|z3d: noted on ^ssu2 :)
dr|z3d
:)
dr|z3d
regenia: Development Installer links on skank.i2p now have the latest build. .jar or .exe both work on all platforms.
regenia
Should I download this. Sorry, I don't understand CI stuff yet
dr|z3d
windows or linux? let's make it easy for you..
regenia
linux
dr|z3d
the files are directly linked from skank.i2p in the Development installer row, for future reference. they download the latest available build from gitlab.
regenia
Much thamks. I will go offline now
regenia
Is this stable? For long-term use
regenia
Like the normal releases?
dr|z3d
yes, very stable. at this stage it's 1.8.0+
regenia
Noice noice. Updating...
dr|z3d
if, post-install, your update policy is set to notify only, you'll know you succeeded!
dr|z3d
you'll also have several subscriptions in susidns.
dr|z3d
remember to rename any existing i2p profile (config dir).
regenia
Left for the voyage...
dr|z3d
bon voyage!
parabo
hi
parabo
dr|z3d, what up?
dr|z3d
shizz dizz, yo. you?
parabo
oh not much
parabo
going to go to the gym soon
dr|z3d
you need to. you and itsjustme both. morbidly obese the pair of you. :)
itsjustme
Lol
parabo
lol
parabo
hey itsjustme
itsjustme
Hey parabo
parabo
how are you?
parabo
what are you doing itsjustme ?
itsjustme
Staying alive
itsjustme
You?
parabo
Also staying alive
dr|z3d
welcome back regenia
parabo
hi regenia
parabo
dr|z3d, you working on anything?
dr|z3d
always
dr|z3d
did you have a look at i2phides.me. parabo?
parabo
what is?
dr|z3d
Blinded message
parabo
inproxy/search?
dr|z3d
good guess.
Irc2PGuest53012
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Irc2PGuest53012
inproxies suck
Irc2PGuest53012
people get the impression they can look at the darknet without getting caught
Irc2PGuest53012
bullshit
dr|z3d
who rattled your cage, RN? :)
regenia
dr|z3d: Weather was lightly sunny. Little droplets of rain once in a while. Sailing was smooth. Slept after coming back home :)
itsjustme
Hey XANA!
itsjustme
Yeah :)
itsjustme
How have you been?
itsjustme
Ok :)
dr|z3d
regenia: good to hear the sailing was smooth. :)
dr|z3d
welcome back, XANA! you been gone a while.
dr|z3d
all good?
dr|z3d
excellent.
itsjustme
:)
dr|z3d
feel free to add to the seeding pool: tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?action=Download&id=63900 <-- 1.8.0+ update, other files to follow.