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dr|z3d
genka: run that question by me again. what do you want to know?
genka
dr|z3d: how are services in the topic of that channel is connected to i2p+?
genka
and what is saltr
genka
thanks
mesh
I think i2p is surprisingly sensitive to gc pauses
mesh
which is a little concerning and intriguing
mesh
so i2psnark does this thing where if the data directory goes away (drive unplugged) it will silently change the data directory back to the default and not tell you?
T3s|4
dr|z3d: does the dev update on i2pplus.github.io/#download always match your latest from skank.i2p/dev/i2pupdate.zip?
genka
dr|z3d: is peer profiling in i2pd different from java router? just saw this github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues/1265
genka
seems like peer profiling is better in java router
mesh
genka: peer profiling is good on the java router if you don't have large gc pauses :)
mesh
genka: it probably should be explicitly mentioned in the docs.
dr|z3d
T3s|4: the dev update on github.io links to the gitlab CI build, which is not always 100% synced with skank's build, but it's usually close enough.
dr|z3d
genka: last time I talked to orignal about peer profiling he told me i2pd doesn't do any, not in the way java i2p does.
dr|z3d
sustained speed on a 0 hop to fast.com on the outproxy -> 50Mb/s
dr|z3d
as for profiling in java i2p and i2p+, i2p profiles all the routers in the netdb and doesn't measure for latency; i2p+ only profiles peers that will be used in local tunnel builds, and _does_ classify peers according to latency.
dr|z3d
T3s|4: did your problem resolve itself with the latest build?
mesh
dr|z3d: hmm that might explain why i2p+ is so sensitive to latency and gc pauses
dr|z3d
not sure it's that sensitive, though the occasional peer might be marked as slow if GC is happening.
dr|z3d
that classification will be corrected, anyways, the profiling is ongoing, so no big deal.
mesh
dr|z3d: I noticed a pretty big perfrormance diff when I shrank the gc pauses
mesh
no idea why. It's the opposite of what you would expect in most java apps. MaxGCPauseMillis=1000 or 2000 ends up being pretty bad. MaxGCPauseMillis=150 ends up performing quite well.
mesh
and you end up with a lot more green dots in /profiles
dr|z3d
yeah, it's been my thesis for a while now that lower gc is probably beneficial for i2p as long as the gc doesn't overwhelm the cpu.
mesh
that's certainly what I've been seeing. the smaller the gc pauses the better the router performs.
dr|z3d
more or less all peers on /profiles should have a good status (green dots).
mesh
hehe not for me
dr|z3d
if you've got a lot of peers failing tests, it indicates an issue with your connection.
dr|z3d
(or general network conditions)
mesh
my connection seems fine. I wonder if hidden mode has something to do with it.
dr|z3d
ah
dr|z3d
hidden mode definitely will impact your performance.
dr|z3d
really not recommended unless absolutely necessary.
mesh
also frankly most of the high quality peers are in europe, north america and quite far from me
mesh
i2p needs more penetration into asian markets
mesh
dr|z3d: i2p goes into hidden mode automatically
dr|z3d
it does in certain countries, though it can be overriden.
mesh
I was able to go from virtually all peers tests failing to about a 3rd of them
mesh
just by seemingly shrinking the gc pause target
mesh
more benchmarking is needed but my theory is that under certain conditions i2p doesn't like 1s or even 500ms pauses
dr|z3d
router.hiddenMode=false & router.isHidden=false
dr|z3d
but you're right about Asia, i2p could definitely benefit from more users there.
mesh
the entire concept of privacy is somewhat foreign to the Asian mindset frankly
mesh
and many people here are focused on their phones
dr|z3d
somewhat foreign, or somewhat illegal. or both.
dr|z3d
so, mesh. blog.. :)
mesh
yeah working on it
dr|z3d
good man
mesh
I wonder if I should put some code on github or try to setup git behind i2p
dr|z3d
up to you. you can do both.
dr|z3d
you can proxy to github/gitlab over the outproxy or Tor.
mesh
eyedeekay.github.io/i2p-i2pd-sshsetup <-- I assume this is possible with i2p+
dr|z3d
there's also git.i2p
dr|z3d
I use gitlab as my main repo, and automatically push to my github repos. git.i2p automatically mirrors gitlab.
dr|z3d
sure
dr|z3d
i2p-i2pd suggests to me i2p -or- i2pd
genka
very interesting moment on my java router in russia. client tunnels building through russian peers in most cases
genka
is this behavior normal?
dr|z3d
is that an i2p+ router you've got hosted in russia?
T3s|4
dr|z3d: just got back, thanks for your note. Earlier, when I pulled your dev update from i2pplus.github.io/#download, and restarted, which resulted in -11+ Revision 50a6c407, everything related to i2p was immediately broken again. I let that broken version run for ~1 hour and never saw anything meaningful in the router or wrapper logs. All I know is under -11+ I have no
T3s|4
zzz.i2p (et al), no snark, no IRC, etc. The only reason I can respond to you is that I was forced to revert back to -0+ - and I do mean that same -11+ update broke i2p on both of laptops.
genka
dr|z3d just regular i2p java router, not i2p+
mesh
it would be cool to setup something like github.com/gitblit/gitblit and get it working behind i2p
mesh
not sure how much work is involved. Or I could spend 5 minutes and setup a github account.
T3s|4
on both of *my laptops
dr|z3d
T3s|4: hmm. that's really odd, no log output. the revision you were using does have the patch that's meant to fix your issue, but evidently it's not working quite as intended. are the routers both running in hidden mode?
T3s|4
yep
dr|z3d
hidden mode, ok. I'll double down on what's special there.
T3s|4
k - thanks
mesh
genka: sometimes I see lots of russians in my tunnels too btw. It tends to pass as the router becomes more integrated
dr|z3d
genka: was asking if i2p+ because if it is you can see the percentage of tunnels hosted by any given peer, and in i2p+ there's a lower ceiling. 127.0.0.1:7657/tunnelpeercount
genka
oh
dr|z3d
T3s|4: ok, I'm going to disable the check for hidden mode when determining what to explore, and build a new dev update. maybe that's the issue.
genka
ah, cant upload screenshot to cake.i2p
genka
Error!: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] No such file or directory
dr|z3d
try fileshare.linuxfarm.i2p
dr|z3d
itsjustme: cake is fail!
T3s|4
btw dr|z3d - if this is also of interest to you, I cannot grab your latest from within -0+. No matter how many times I try, I only see no update available, despite being up on -0+ for 5 hours
dr|z3d
T3s|4: is that with the default url, or dev url?
genka
fileshare.linuxfarm.i2p/file/b7b3t8gPyP_EWbyb1Unh16bLk6xfpPkKiU9lAi75t_87j0Kxz8Sq/Screenshot-2.png
T3s|4
skank.i2p is working finw
dr|z3d
you've got the same peers in multiple tunnels there genka, which is something I've specifically worked on in i2p+ to avoid more of the time.
T3s|4
*fine
dr|z3d
then that's really quite odd, T3s|4. and a manual check for updates doesn't show anything up?
genka
dr|z3d: i see
T3s|4
dr|z3d: other than the update issue, all appears to be working correctly in -0+ (only)
mesh
dr|z3d: that happens to me a good bit too
dr|z3d
how many known peers in your netdb, genka?
dr|z3d
building you an update to try, T3s|4, please stand by!
dr|z3d
you should be able to eepget it with ~/i2p/eepget -n 999 skank.i2p/dev/i2pupdate.zip
genka
dr|z3d: 5280
T3s|4
dr|z3d: yep, even after ctrl-shift-r on 127.0.0.1:7667/configupdate = no update available
dr|z3d
ok, T3s|4, update is uploaded.
dr|z3d
genka: that's plenty, so hmmm.. maybe there's some odd networking constraints in Russia right now that's forcing more russian peers to be selected.
genka
maybe you're right, dr|z3d
T3s|4
dr|z3d: ^noted, but still no update available
dr|z3d
T3s|4: double check that the url's correct.
T3s|4
double-check = confirmed correct
dr|z3d
ok, next thing to try is restarting your http proxy tunnel.
dr|z3d
if you've been hitting skank hard, maybe you got blacklisted.
dr|z3d
and make sure when your proxy tunnel restarts, it's with new keys.
genka
dr|z3d how many transit tunnels does your router have?
genka
if it's not a secret
T3s|4
dr|z3d: snagging it now
dr|z3d
depends on the router, genka. average right now is around 2K.
dr|z3d
there were some upstream changes a while back that seemed to put the breaks on participating tunnels and participating bandwidth.. still haven't got to the bottom of that.
dr|z3d
another thing that differs between i2p and i2p+ is the limits on peers in the same network space joining local tunnels. iirc, in i2p it's peers in the same /24, in i2p+ it's peers in the same /8
mesh
I wonder if I'm the only one who wishes it was possible to run i2ptunnel standalone
dr|z3d
not a common request, mesh. or one that's every occurred before.
dr|z3d
*ever
mesh
dr|z3d: could be just me. doing everything inside the router process feels wrong
mesh
though I guess there could be performance benefits...
mesh
but I would rather have a separate program that connected to the router and forwarded data to a local port. This would make it easier to monitor and control what's going on and it would be easy to kill this process
dr|z3d
i2ptunnel runs from a separate war.
mesh
I have a sinking feeling that embedding everything inside the router won't scale should people really want to deploy lots of (or all) services over i2p
rambler
Ayyo
dr|z3d
hihi rambler
rambler
How's it hanging?
dr|z3d
not bad, thanks, you good?
rambler
Low and to the left
rambler
Ha. Not bad.
dr|z3d
thanks for sharing :)
rambler
I'll catch you on i2pchat
dr|z3d
10 4
genka
any chance you can add libreddit.i2p to the topic, dr|z3d?
genka
and wow
genka
i2pchat?
genka
didn't hear about it
dr|z3d
is it running on i2p+, genka? :)
dr|z3d
also, it's apparently not registered yet, so there's that.
dr|z3d
T3s|4_: any joy?
dr|z3d
genka: if it runs on i2p+ there's a fair chance it might get linked on the i2p+ homepage.. just saying..
genka
dr|z3d: what do you mean
genka
why not registered
genka
libreddit.i2p is registered at reg.i2p and stats.i2p
dr|z3d
neither are responding with a dest when tried via jump links.
genka
um
T3s|4_
dr|z3d: the update d/l succeeded, restarted into 48e5809d, which completely re-broke i2p yet again. The wrapper log just shows the restart, and the non-existent router log only 404s
dr|z3d
ugh, T3s|4_, ok, more surgery required.
genka
stats.i2p is redirecting me to the address helper via jump link
genka
reg.i2p too
genka
:/
dr|z3d
ok, maybe I mistyped it before. works now.
genka
dr|z3d: it's running on i2pd :)
dr|z3d
oh well, genka. :)
genka
sad
genka
i just thought you could add libreddit.i2p to the topic too since not all sites there is running on i2p+
genka
))
dr|z3d
I'd be more motivated to if it was running on i2p+, even though it's not offering anything that's not already present in the topic. that's the other thing.
genka
got it
dr|z3d
still, since you asked so nicely, we can provisonally put it in the topic while you get your i2p+ shit together :)
genka
dr|z3d didnt understand last part. could you rephrase please? hehe
genka
libreddit.i2p*, dr|z3d
itsjustme
dr|z3d: wot?
itsjustme
:O
genka
i can try running i2p+ rather than i2p on the other server in russia but not on the my raspberry pi, sorry :):):)
dr|z3d
itsjustme: cake fail. sql?
itsjustme
I will check
dr|z3d
genka: your router in russia will thank you.
genka
dr|z3d: :)
genka
dr|z3d: thanks
dr|z3d
:)
genka
what can i tune in wrapper.config except wrapper.java.maxmemory, dr|z3d?
dr|z3d
what version of java are you running on, and how much ram are you wanting to allocate?
genka
openjdk version "17.0.2" 2022-01-18, 2048 MB
genka
i saw on zzz.i2p that i2p is running better with java 18 in terms of memory consumption
genka
i could grab java 18 from adoptium.net if necessary
dr|z3d
up to you.. 2048MB.. ok, let me see what I can give you in terms of wrapper.config options.
dr|z3d
how many cores is it running on?
genka
4 cores
dr|z3d
ok, probably enough for zgc then.
dr|z3d
wrapper.java.additional.3=-XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem
dr|z3d
wrapper.java.additional.4=-XX:+UseZGC
dr|z3d
the numbers you may have to adjust according to whatever other additional params you're supplying.
genka
got it
dr|z3d
if you're setting maxMem to 2048MB, maybe set init heap to 768. wrapper.java.initmemory=768
dr|z3d
you don't want init heap to be more than 1/2 of max ram, ideally, for zgc to work nicely.
dr|z3d
so 768 is fine.
dr|z3d
> wrapper.restart.delay=10
dr|z3d
restarts will happen quicker with that value.
genka
10 already
genka
anything else, dr|z3d? maybe -server flag?
dr|z3d
nah, server flag isn't required for 64bit. it's a legacy option.
genka
so, that's all, right?
dr|z3d
sure, that's about it for now. see how you get on with those configs.
dr|z3d
T3s|4_: ok, new build up, hopefully this one fixes your issue :|
dr|z3d
T3s|4_: you're grabbing the latest dev builds from skank.i2p I hope.. :)
genka
something weird happened in web ui
genka
wait, will share screenshot now
dr|z3d
try a ctrl+shift+r ?
genka
nah, didnt help
genka
wait
genka
fileshare.linuxfarm.i2p/file/SYzrjUTOkF_nroRoGT5WfHZFFqgiWlkQprqYl3uTG_p6mLOH351w/photo-2022-04-02-18-43-58.jpg
genka
see
genka
fileshare.linuxfarm.i2p/file/BZFBRGopLW_jVnw1elBAJWei21i1qSIhrpzzgMpcC_ray50IBwo5/photo-2022-04-02-18-44-33.jpg
genka
had to change scale
dr|z3d
checking...
dr|z3d
what's weird?
dr|z3d
you're on the midnight theme.
genka
cant save the settings
genka
check second screenshot
dr|z3d
leave that page and come back to it, perhaps, then try save again. could be a cookies thing.
dr|z3d
failing that, check your logs. and that second screenshot is too small to show me anything.
genka
yes, cuz i changed the scale to 50%
genka
so save button appeared
dr|z3d
ah, ok. so it's a ui thing then? looks like you're at 4k?
genka
yes, i cant see the save button. it's somewhere on the right
dr|z3d
ok, I see the issue, let me fix that and then you can grab an update if you like.
genka
sure
dr|z3d
thanks for spotting it.
genka
:)
dr|z3d_
ok, fix available from skank.i2p/dev/i2pupdate.zip genka if you're not already configured for dev updates on /configupdate
genka
i have to just copy i2pupdate.zip to my ~/i2pplus folder and restart, right?
genka
dr|z3d
dr|z3d
yeah, or download from the /configupdate ui.
genka
can i just click on restart in web ui? or i have to restart with i2prouter stop/start?
genka
doesnt matter?
dr|z3d
if you're running with the wrapper, web ui is fine.
dr|z3d
i2prouter start/stop won't respect your existing participating tunnels.
genka
got it
genka
now waiting 10 minutes
dr|z3d
if you're changing values in wrapper.config, then you need to stop the router and restart it, not restart, in order for those values to get picked up.
genka
i see
dr|z3d
ok, now you can see what the proportion of peers hosting your tunnels is.
dr|z3d
on /tunnelpeercount ..
dr|z3d
click the table headers to sort.
genka
good feature
dr|z3d
yeah, handy if you want to see if there's any weirdness with your peer connections.
genka
maybe i underestimated i2p+
genka
will try again at my home raspberry pi if everything will be good
genka
dr|z3d: why didnt your changes to i2p merged to main i2p java router?
genka
merge*
genka
dr|z3d: hmm, i put the i2pupdate.zip to the ~/i2pplus, restarted but nothing changed
genka
maybe i did something wrong
genka
maybe i had to put it to ~/.i2p ?
dr|z3d
either dir is fine. try a ctrl+shift+r ?
genka
ah yeah, my bad
dr|z3d
you can also check that you updated on /logs .. the wrapper logs will tell you.
genka
now it's fine
genka
thanks
dr|z3d
np. thanks for reporting.
genka
next thing
genka
all in /home is written with lowercase letters. fileshare.linuxfarm.i2p/file/mNduyQkoR7_0qoYxClz4GTbmnC1zkEtsI7tfdFe4K_RKQ0m6kwuQ/Screenshot-3.png
genka
but
genka
everything in /home*
genka
but
genka
everything in /sitemap starts with capital letter
genka
fileshare.linuxfarm.i2p/file/h3O63yzMrp_MVcWwS90EzcKdyegaBIVHJHcOFgJKU_jS8VKBlAvm/Screenshot-4.png
genka
i think everything in /sitemap should be written with lowercase letters or vice versa
genka
dr|z3d
T3s|4_
dr|z3d: from this 0+ unbroken laptop I d/led your latest from skank.i2p (sha256sum = 056e831109b87659e245484627a2f4c937747df6f016059f68c20dc1832e7ac3), then using that update restarted i2p on my other laptop, still at Revision 48e5809d - and i2p still completely broken
dr|z3d
anything in the logs, T3s|4_?
dr|z3d
genka: in theory, hostnames should be lowercase, names should be capitalized. might not have got round to fixing that in the midnight theme.
dr|z3d
screenshot disappeared.
genka
dr|z3d: wait, i'll reupload
genka
first fileshare.linuxfarm.i2p/file/Zp2E8rXwsN_Pyv6m0fv7jN2qOkkqKrKfCizJbgmuO_ktVXmuQzyU/Screenshot-3.png
genka
second fileshare.linuxfarm.i2p/file/nd3AoteLq0_3tjEUiG0YpG6FrogFJbd8p4fjnCvyE_s7vDTTK8Mc/Screenshot-4.png
genka
dr|z3d: yep, everything is fine with dark theme
dr|z3d
genka: for now, rather than needing to update, create a file called override.css in i2p/docs/themes/console/midnight/
dr|z3d
and then paste the following into it, save, then ctrl+shift+r on the midnight theme
dr|z3d
Blinded message
dr|z3d
Blinded message
dr|z3d
that's about the best I can do. next update will have that baked into the midnight theme.
genka
thanks, dr|z3d!
dr|z3d
you can modify the themes any way you like with the override.css files. and they're persistent, they won't be deleted when you upgrade.
genka
i see
dr|z3d
T3s|4_: running a router in hidden mode to see if I can reproduce your issue.
dr|z3d
before the recent patch, yeah, got issues flagged in the logs. let's see post-update.
dr|z3d
can confirm your issue, T3s|4_, odd one since nothing gets published to the logs, but it's a search for routers/leasesets issue. fix should be forthcoming.
dr|z3d
ok, T3s|4_, fix being built as we speak.
dr|z3d
this one definitely works. sorry for the hassle.
dr|z3d
--- uploaded ---
dr|z3d
thanks for bringing the bug to my attention.