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Anonymous
orignal, R4SAS I2P does E2EE, right? And so does Yggdrasil, right?
Anonymous
If so, there would be a big performance benefit if encryption is say disabled on I2P (higher level networking protocol)? What about security?
Anonymous
But I guess they are separate networks so shit wouldn't work as expected? Someone told me it's bloat to have e2ee a few times lol.. with which I kind-of agree
Anonymous
I think GNUnet does both the low and medium and high levels of the networking
Anonymous
stack? If so, that's probably where it gets some of it's advertized performance
Anonymous
from
orignal
dumb question
Anonymous
What about the self-answer? XD
orignal
NTCP2 is not only encryption
orignal
it's also data integrity
Anonymous
Alright, but you gotta admit that SOME shit is repeated needlessly?
Anonymous
Again - I am NOT an expert like you are bro
Anonymous
so some things I write will be dumb, of course
Anonymous
this is why I come to you and ask
Anonymous
Like you say data integrity.. does Yggdrasil do some of that? If so - is it being repeated in a way?
orignal
simply speaking i2p doesn't rely on enncryption of lower-level transports
orignal
reagrdless what's that
Anonymous
Discussing performance here.. because some people see that as a big con and don't use I2P and/or Yggdrasil because o f it
Anonymous
orignal, I know it doesn't rely on it
Anonymous
but isn't that the problem?
Anonymous
What if Yggdrasil and I2P were say combined?
orignal
go implement it
Anonymous
Separated in a way, but combined so to not encrypt/sort/repeat shit needlessly?
Anonymous
orignal, I'm asking could it be done?
Anonymous
Would there be a noticable performance increase?
Anonymous
I am not necessarily informed
orignal
dude I'm not inetersted in your "genious" ideas
orignal
if you want to implement something try
Anonymous
You seriously need English lessons
orignal
I'm not going to do it
Anonymous
I ask question, you say you aren't interested in it that thing, but I didn't ask if you were interested
Anonymous
I didn't ask you to
orignal
I answered you
Anonymous
I asked if it can be done and if so - would performance be better (lesser latency, more kbit/s)?
Anonymous
orignal, you answered worse than an A.I. would
orignal
the answer is "I DON'T KNOW"
Anonymous
oh
Anonymous
Alright..
Anonymous
thanks
orignal
and if you propose somethign yoiu must do some rerearch and convince others about possible benefits
Anonymous
I did not propose
orignal
do your homeworks and come back
Anonymous
I asked without much brain-use
Anonymous
should have been in #en I guess
Anonymous
> <orignal> do your homeworks and come back < I cannot right now
orignal
we don't need :genious ideas"
Anonymous
R4SAS, dude pls give orignal some home-schooling xD
orignal
do you really think that you are the first with it?
Anonymous
orignal, I don't care
weko
I think it is available only with 2-side support
Anonymous
Yeah
Anonymous
weko, that's what I thought
Anonymous
Like a "all-in-one" project that implements both in nice merit
Anonymous
But separat so both have freedom to do what they want
Anonymous
independence
Anonymous
orignal, wants independence
Anonymous
he can have it
weko
Because it js 1% chance what ntcp2/ssu2 have "been encrypted" field
Anonymous
orignal, doesn't want more work? good
Anonymous
oh
Anonymous
weko, It's just a foolish idea
orignal
weko I had some discussions about this with SilkMoth
Anonymous
and orignal seems to take me too seriously
Anonymous
no need to take me so seriously.. and this should have been on #en sorry
weko
orignal: and what you discussed specific?
orignal
the realistic idea is using raw datagram there derectly through api
orignal
he is going to write ygg C library
Anonymous
directly*
orignal
that lets you send raw datagram over ygg
Anonymous
orignal, 'he' who? SilkMoth?
Anonymous
wow
weko
orignal: hmm, good, ygg-side support is better
Anonymous
:D
orignal
well he is trying his own project
Anonymous
orignal, this is basically free real-estate I mean free FPS
Anonymous
orignal, that's good
Anonymous
independence and simplicity is good
orignal
current go-ygg is not extendable
Anonymous
it's Unix-like
Anonymous
orignal, yeah
Anonymous
I want Ygg in C
Anonymous
Perhaps we see it one day
weko
[14:30:33] <orignal> well he is trying his own project
weko
C-lib is good for ygg improvement. For 256bit addresses, for example. Or some other stuff
orignal
but it was a while ago
orignal
weko #howtoygg f I remeber
Anonymous
weko, what do you mean by C-lib?
Anonymous
What about Ygg in C?
weko
orignal: yes, I there.
orignal
he is a guy
weko
Anonymous: C library for yggdrasil
Anonymous
Not sure how lib would implement like that, but I was thinking more like an software that combines both I2P and Yggdrasil
Anonymous
Like Tor Browsers combines Firefox and Tor and a few patches
Anonymous
Because someone told me this
Anonymous
> Says the one wasting power on a layer over layer of another layer of
Anonymous
encryption networks.
Anonymous
Why dont you reduce those?
weko
Such feature can be done only by i2p router or ygg
weko
No other ways, I think
Anonymous
weko, oh
Anonymous
Either way, it could at least be like a simple patch
Anonymous
For those that use both
Anonymous
Makes me excited
weko
I guess it should be supported by both hands
Anonymous
It kind-of is
Anonymous
beacuse it's open-source haha